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#1 MechaDragon92
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After spending some time lurking around system wars, I can see that there is no love for games such as Animal Crossing.

BUT WAIT!!!!

The PS3 game "LittleBigPlanet" is reveiled and suddenly, all the Cows are jumping to defend this game.

Well?

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#2 locopatho
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Ya everyone knows that's BS. Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts both look more "kiddy" to me than Nintendo games. But whatever, people can be dumb...
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#3 Taz-Bone
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Fanboys always contradict themselves. If LBP was on Wii it would be "teh kiddy"
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#4 Always-Honest
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it's insecurity. let them be.
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#5 MechaDragon92
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Huh. No cows yet?

Must be grazing for Uncharted or something

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#6 SpruceCaboose
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Fanboys use no logic. Your first mistake was thinking that they might.

Play the games you like, and to hell with those who would try to dissuade you from them. :D

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#7 SpruceCaboose
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Or if you are looking for a debate, I could play Devil's Advocate... :twisted:
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#8 Vampyronight
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I will try to explain why I think most people give LBP a pass.

You brought up Animal Crossing, so I'll just use that. In Animal Crossing, what things can you do in the game? Well, dig up fossils, mail letters, pull weeds, pick fruit, fish, design your home, and a few other things. Most of those activities are very simple and accomplished with just the A button.

Now compare that to LBP. You can play through the levels (with is just basically run, grab, and jump). OR you can sit down and spend 15 minutes or 15 hours creating your own levels with physics based puzzles, which can be distributed around the world.

The point is, LBP gives you a lot more to sink your teeth into, while many (but not all) of the "kiddy" games don't really provide that kind of depth. Yes, LBP has a cute visual look to it, but there's definately something deeper in the game than say Animal Crossing.

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#9 Tacho101
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vampy killed this thread...
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#10 SapSacPrime
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I will try to explain why I think most people give LBP a pass.

You brought up Animal Crossing, so I'll just use that. In Animal Crossing, what things can you do in the game? Well, dig up fossils, mail letters, pull weeds, pick fruit, fish, design your home, and a few other things. Most of those activities are very simple and accomplished with just the A button.

Now compare that to LBP. You can play through the levels (with is just basically run, grab, and jump). OR you can sit down and spend 15 minutes or 15 hours creating your own levels with physics based puzzles, which can be distributed around the world.

The point is, LBP gives you a lot more to sink your teeth into, while many (but not all) of the "kiddy" games don't really provide that kind of depth. Yes, LBP has a cute visual look to it, but there's definately something deeper in the game than say Animal Crossing.

Vampyronight

I think you are assuming a little early that LBP is going to be a lot deeper than AC.

The reason people give LBP a pass is because they are biased towards the PS brand, the same way they complain that there are no other games on the xbox but shooters yet Resistance 2 and KZ2 will be the best games ever. SW=home of hypocrisy.

Edit: should probably add although it should go with out saying that each fanboy of each brand does the same thing, xbox owners can be just as bad for the kiddy thing and Nintendo gamers can be very pretentious about first party stuff lol (and PC gamers tell us every console game is ugly and low res :cry: ).

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#11 Taz-Bone
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I will try to explain why I think most people give LBP a pass.

You brought up Animal Crossing, so I'll just use that. In Animal Crossing, what things can you do in the game? Well, dig up fossils, mail letters, pull weeds, pick fruit, fish, design your home, and a few other things. Most of those activities are very simple and accomplished with just the A button.

Now compare that to LBP. You can play through the levels (with is just basically run, grab, and jump). OR you can sit down and spend 15 minutes or 15 hours creating your own levels with physics based puzzles, which can be distributed around the world.

The point is, LBP gives you a lot more to sink your teeth into, while many (but not all) of the "kiddy" games don't really provide that kind of depth. Yes, LBP has a cute visual look to it, but there's definately something deeper in the game than say Animal Crossing.

Vampyronight
So how is SMGoty kiddy?
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I think you are assuming a little early that LBP is going to be a lot deeper than AC.

The reason people give LBP a pass is because they are biased towards the PS brand, the same way they complain that there are no other games on the xbox but shooters yet Resistance 2 and KZ2 will be the best games ever. SW=home of hypocrisy.

csliney

Given what I have read on LBP from the press, I think LBP will be incredibly deep. However, I think the success and long term viability of it hinges on a decent sized fanbase to form around the game, because if there is not one, all the community features in the game will become meaningless.

However, with a sizable base, things like created levels that get voted on and co-op gameplay could indeed make LBP a creative, long-lasting success, and with it being such a unique adventure for consoles, I hope it succeeds wildly. I know I will own it release day.

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#13 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

I will try to explain why I think most people give LBP a pass.

You brought up Animal Crossing, so I'll just use that. In Animal Crossing, what things can you do in the game? Well, dig up fossils, mail letters, pull weeds, pick fruit, fish, design your home, and a few other things. Most of those activities are very simple and accomplished with just the A button.

Now compare that to LBP. You can play through the levels (with is just basically run, grab, and jump). OR you can sit down and spend 15 minutes or 15 hours creating your own levels with physics based puzzles, which can be distributed around the world.

The point is, LBP gives you a lot more to sink your teeth into, while many (but not all) of the "kiddy" games don't really provide that kind of depth. Yes, LBP has a cute visual look to it, but there's definately something deeper in the game than say Animal Crossing.

Taz-Bone

So how is SMGoty kiddy?

Where did he say it was?

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#14 mlbslugger86
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i just dislike kiddies for simple fact that im already 22..now a days i like shooters and sports games
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#15 GARRYTH
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to me kiddy games are nin dogs, pokemon, horzes ps2, lbp.

the differance to me is either hated bad kiddy game to good liked kiddy game.

it depends how the games is and what you do in the game.

see cows nows lbp is kiddy but it looks fun and addictive.

nin dogs is boring kiddy game.

see the differance.

i now lbp is kiddy but it is going to be blast to play with my son and daughter.

pokemon boring bad kiddy game and nin ds is full of them.

see nin is a kids console and all ways will be because the # of kids game out # the ones that aren't by a large #.

the 360 and ps 3 mature/teen rated games out # the kids games by a large #.

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#16 Utensilman
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No More Heros is teh kiddy
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#17 GARRYTH
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[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

I will try to explain why I think most people give LBP a pass.

You brought up Animal Crossing, so I'll just use that. In Animal Crossing, what things can you do in the game? Well, dig up fossils, mail letters, pull weeds, pick fruit, fish, design your home, and a few other things. Most of those activities are very simple and accomplished with just the A button.

Now compare that to LBP. You can play through the levels (with is just basically run, grab, and jump). OR you can sit down and spend 15 minutes or 15 hours creating your own levels with physics based puzzles, which can be distributed around the world.

The point is, LBP gives you a lot more to sink your teeth into, while many (but not all) of the "kiddy" games don't really provide that kind of depth. Yes, LBP has a cute visual look to it, but there's definately something deeper in the game than say Animal Crossing.

Taz-Bone
So how is SMGoty kiddy?

because it looks like a kids game but it fun and additive like lbp. don't tell me mario games don't look kiddish because i wil laugh at you.
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#18 Taz-Bone
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[QUOTE="Taz-Bone"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

I will try to explain why I think most people give LBP a pass.

You brought up Animal Crossing, so I'll just use that. In Animal Crossing, what things can you do in the game? Well, dig up fossils, mail letters, pull weeds, pick fruit, fish, design your home, and a few other things. Most of those activities are very simple and accomplished with just the A button.

Now compare that to LBP. You can play through the levels (with is just basically run, grab, and jump). OR you can sit down and spend 15 minutes or 15 hours creating your own levels with physics based puzzles, which can be distributed around the world.

The point is, LBP gives you a lot more to sink your teeth into, while many (but not all) of the "kiddy" games don't really provide that kind of depth. Yes, LBP has a cute visual look to it, but there's definately something deeper in the game than say Animal Crossing.

SpruceCaboose

So how is SMGoty kiddy?

Where did he say it was?

He didn't, but I want him to explain why people called SMGoty kiddy, yet LBP is OK.
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#19 SpruceCaboose
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see nin is a kids console and all ways will be because the # of kids game out # the ones that aren't by a large #.

the 360 and ps 3 mature/teen rated games out # the kids games by a large #.

GARRYTH

Not that big a difference. All consoles have enough diversit, IMO.

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#20 GARRYTH
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Taz-Bone"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

I will try to explain why I think most people give LBP a pass.

You brought up Animal Crossing, so I'll just use that. In Animal Crossing, what things can you do in the game? Well, dig up fossils, mail letters, pull weeds, pick fruit, fish, design your home, and a few other things. Most of those activities are very simple and accomplished with just the A button.

Now compare that to LBP. You can play through the levels (with is just basically run, grab, and jump). OR you can sit down and spend 15 minutes or 15 hours creating your own levels with physics based puzzles, which can be distributed around the world.

The point is, LBP gives you a lot more to sink your teeth into, while many (but not all) of the "kiddy" games don't really provide that kind of depth. Yes, LBP has a cute visual look to it, but there's definately something deeper in the game than say Animal Crossing.

Taz-Bone

So how is SMGoty kiddy?

Where did he say it was?

He didn't, but I want him to explain why people called SMGoty kiddy, yet LBP is OK.

who says lbp is not kiddy you be stupid if you didn't. i gave you a good examples in my post above.
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#21 thrones
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In a way, TF2 is kiddy.
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#22 Utensilman
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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]

see nin is a kids console and all ways will be because the # of kids game out # the ones that aren't by a large #.

the 360 and ps 3 mature/teen rated games out # the kids games by a large #.

SpruceCaboose

Not that big a difference. All consoles have enough diversit, IMO.

-.- Lol wow.... like no M games on Wii

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#23 --ProtoMan--
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I always wonder about Viva Pinata. If it was a Wii game, it would be torn to pieces by lemmings being kiddy.

I could see the same thing happening if Beautiful Katamari was a Wii exclusive.

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#24 Always-Honest
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In a way, TF2 is kiddy.thrones

so stylised is kiddy? okay. that's basicly the common idea here.

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#25 --ProtoMan--
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I remember Nintendo saying that they were afraid to release another cel-shaded Zelda on consoles because American gamers might reject it. Too many "hardcore" kids out there, I guess.

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#26 majadamus
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Play Disgaea, and then come here tell us it's kiddy.
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#27 ukillwegrill
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Play Disgaea, and then come here tell us it's kiddy. majadamus

Disgaea is some Hardcore stuff,I hit Lvl 749 (only took 3 years) and im still not bored

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#29 Always-Honest
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-.- Lol wow.... like no M games on Wii

Utensilman

still the most brutal games are on Wii...

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#30 GARRYTH
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[QUOTE="Utensilman"]

-.- Lol wow.... like no M games on Wii

Always-Honest

still the most brutal games are on Wii...

you game not games right no more heroes.
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#31 bf2nutta
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who gives a damm if the game looks kiddy!?!?! if you enjoy the game play it... Zack and Wiki looks kiddy(by Fanboy standards), but is damm good fun and probably the best point click since the good ol days of Lucasarts Point n Click

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#32 Tiefster
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Taz-Bone"][QUOTE="Vampyronight"]

I will try to explain why I think most people give LBP a pass.

You brought up Animal Crossing, so I'll just use that. In Animal Crossing, what things can you do in the game? Well, dig up fossils, mail letters, pull weeds, pick fruit, fish, design your home, and a few other things. Most of those activities are very simple and accomplished with just the A button.

Now compare that to LBP. You can play through the levels (with is just basically run, grab, and jump). OR you can sit down and spend 15 minutes or 15 hours creating your own levels with physics based puzzles, which can be distributed around the world.

The point is, LBP gives you a lot more to sink your teeth into, while many (but not all) of the "kiddy" games don't really provide that kind of depth. Yes, LBP has a cute visual look to it, but there's definately something deeper in the game than say Animal Crossing.

Taz-Bone

So how is SMGoty kiddy?

Where did he say it was?

He didn't, but I want him to explain why people called SMGoty kiddy, yet LBP is OK.


They are both ok because they provide depth compared to other kiddy games or games that are considered kiddy. I think you need to take the mario mustache off.
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#33 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Honestly most the time it seems like some pubescent kid who thinks violence is king.. To me depth and fun is king, hell I still play gunbound.. Granted it looks kiddy its actually a pretty challenging hybrid game of worms. To me this seems like a bunch of kids who are insecure with them selves..
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#34 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

-.- Lol wow.... like no M games on Wii

GARRYTH

still the most brutal games are on Wii...

you game not games right no more heroes.

you tarzan me jane... what did you say?.. sorry, i really can't understand what you are saying.

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#35 amorbis1001
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TC ur so true, I think it the dual standards, that alot of fanboys has for themselves, I for one accepts and game that I think is great no matter what console it is on.
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#36 vegetattack15
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Why are sheep so insecure about their games? Just be happy with your system, heck I plan on getting one. Embrace your games, their fun, but to deny that Nintendo games are more centered towards a younger audience, is denying the truth.
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#37 Unreal_393
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[QUOTE="Utensilman"]

-.- Lol wow.... like no M games on Wii

Always-Honest

still the most brutal games are on Wii...

so, Gears of war, Bioschock, God of war, DMC, GTA, Ninja Gaiden is available on wii........hmm, didnt know that. guess you learn something everyday

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What? I'm not allowed to be mentally immature and want boobs and blood in all my games while calling anything that's not filled with boobs and blood kiddy and turning my nose up at them?

What has this forum come to?

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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

-.- Lol wow.... like no M games on Wii

Unreal_393

still the most brutal games are on Wii...

so, Gears of war, Bioschock, God of war, DMC, GTA, Ninja Gaiden is available on wii........hmm, didnt know that. guess you learn something everyday

Haha! those games are so kiddy they haven't even been censored in whole continents because of their gore! :lol:

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Creating anything from scratch and being Mario Bros. on crack > that stupid swimming game.
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#41 Video_Game_King
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A lot of kiddy games are much better than mature games. I'd rather play Elebits over BMX XXX.
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="Utensilman"]

-.- Lol wow.... like no M games on Wii

Unreal_393

still the most brutal games are on Wii...

so, Gears of war, Bioschock, God of war, DMC, GTA, Ninja Gaiden is available on wii........hmm, didnt know that. guess you learn something everyday

None of thsose games got delayed because it was Rated AO for it's gore. ;)

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Not to break your heart or anything... but you're delusional if you consider this not to be aimed at the younger audience.

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#44 Mike1978Smith
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i just dislike kiddies for simple fact that im already 22..now a days i like shooters and sports gamesmlbslugger86

As you get older you'll start liking the kiddie stuff again. I'm only 30 now and I'm already starting to look at gaming differently than I did 5 years ago. I think a lot of has to do with the fact that I have a kid of my own, now, too.

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#45 frankeyser
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to me kiddy games are nin dogs, pokemon, horzes ps2, lbp.

the differance to me is either hated bad kiddy game to good liked kiddy game.

it depends how the games is and what you do in the game.

see cows nows lbp is kiddy but it looks fun and addictive.

nin dogs is boring kiddy game.

see the differance.

i now lbp is kiddy but it is going to be blast to play with my son and daughter.

pokemon boring bad kiddy game and nin ds is full of them.

see nin is a kids console and all ways will be because the # of kids game out # the ones that aren't by a large #.

the 360 and ps 3 mature/teen rated games out # the kids games by a large #.

GARRYTH

do what it was already proved two gens in a row that the PS brand get the most E for all and under age games.

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#46 SkullboyX
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And the second that Little Big Planet comes out, cows are gonna be talking about how it "REVOLUTIONIZED" gaming. Then when anybody brings up Animal Crossing or Viva Piniata (which are both good francises) cows will say "Yeah but those games suck"

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[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]i just dislike kiddies for simple fact that im already 22..now a days i like shooters and sports gamesMike1978Smith

As you get older you'll start liking the kiddie stuff again. I'm only 30 now and I'm already starting to look at gaming differently than I did 5 years ago. I think a lot of has to do with the fact that I have a kid of my own, now, too.

Meh..I wouldn't buy into that weak flamebait with a hint of sarcasm.

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#48 wiretoss
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I will try to explain why I think most people give LBP a pass.

You brought up Animal Crossing, so I'll just use that. In Animal Crossing, what things can you do in the game? Well, dig up fossils, mail letters, pull weeds, pick fruit, fish, design your home, and a few other things. Most of those activities are very simple and accomplished with just the A button.

Now compare that to LBP. You can play through the levels (with is just basically run, grab, and jump). OR you can sit down and spend 15 minutes or 15 hours creating your own levels with physics based puzzles, which can be distributed around the world.

The point is, LBP gives you a lot more to sink your teeth into, while many (but not all) of the "kiddy" games don't really provide that kind of depth. Yes, LBP has a cute visual look to it, but there's definately something deeper in the game than say Animal Crossing.

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With animal crossing, it simulates REAL LIFE, which is more hardcore than what LBP does.
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#49 Mike1978Smith
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[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"]i just dislike kiddies for simple fact that im already 22..now a days i like shooters and sports gamesmajadamus

As you get older you'll start liking the kiddie stuff again. I'm only 30 now and I'm already starting to look at gaming differently than I did 5 years ago. I think a lot of has to do with the fact that I have a kid of my own, now, too.

Meh..I wouldn't buy into that weak flamebait with a hint of sarcasm.

I was actually serious. I used to take gaming pretty seriously and would never even think of touching something like lego indiana jones or animal crossing becasue they were too "kiddie". But these days, the idea of a casual game that is silly, light-hearted and non-serious is actually appealing.

It's kinda like how ten years ago I listened NiN and tool and what-not, but these days my car radio is tuned to the classical station...

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#50 nitekids2004
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Ya everyone knows that's BS. Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts both look more "kiddy" to me than Nintendo games. But whatever, people can be dumb...locopatho

Kingdom Hearts i can understand..but FF?