The PC is the superior gaming platform - Definitive Edition

@farrell2k:

Need dat evidence on how paper is made too?

Yeah, it's called Crytek has been in financial disarray as of late and likely can't afford / don't want to risk the licensing fees required by Sony when they know they're trying to shovel a mediocre game.

Nah, far too plausible...

It seems much more likely that MS gave them the go ahead for a PC version but not a PS4 version just to spite the handful of PS4 players interested in the game. /s

Lol really, is that all you have you are getting worse with every response, carry on your digging your own hole

@naz99: Dragons are real. There is one sitting right here in my garage RIGHT NOW. But it's invisible.

You can't prove me wrong, can you? Where's your evidence? LOL OWNED LMFAO LLOLOLOLOL

Alan Wake, Dead Rising 3, Conviction, etc. Especially with Conviction I'm sure Ubisoft ignored a Playstation version because they are low on money. /sarcasm

Neither Ubisoft, nor any of those other studios have anything to do with Crytek and their current financial situation, Cranler II.

@Dasein808: Same deal, there's the pub/dev agreement. Terms varies but the core is usually the same. Crytek can't bring Ryse to Playstation even if they tried. Not now anyway.

They could legally port it, but financially, it makes no sense.

They know that they're trying to a peddle a turd.

It has nothing to do with disdain for one console platform over another.

@Dasein808
No they can't. They would if they could.

Reread the devs' response and try to understand the difference between a "partner" and the "IP owner."

@Dasein808

Hmmm less than 200 post. No offense but I won't debate with a newbie.

Why? you have over 6000 posts and you still can't debate,the eveidence is right here in this thread.

Lol.

K.

It's because he does not want yet another person picking apart his flimsy arguments i don't think he could take it.

Evidence? Where? lol

where?

"Right here in this thread"

There!

Can you read?

@naz99: Tell me what you think it said?

what?

This all started because you made nonsense claims with no basis in fact and then continued to babble on and have yet to provide one piece of evidence,yet claim you won the argument,and now you want me to breakk it down and spell it out for you...LOL

Why would i even waste my time,it's already written down over the past few pages if you can't comprhend that it is not our fault.

I'm just educating you guys how these agreements work. Can't exactly call it an argument.

And there you go again..just because you make a post on a forum it does not mean it is fact.....how have you educated anyone? you have just stated an opinion and failed to back it up....

Lol a lost cause if ever i saw one

In the console world 1st party studios fight for exclusives on their platform. You don't get that with PC so I might understand why this concept is so new to you guys.

@Legend002: Ponies are made out of pixie dust and childrens' dreams. This is common knowledge to everyone who knows anything about ponies...I can't help it if you guys are too dumb to see that. PROVE ME WRONG.

Everyone Else: Here's why you are wrong: (Lists a bunch of facts and logical arguments)

@Legend002: LOL NO

Everyone Else: ...

........*facepalm* i think it is best if we just leave you to your ignorant bliss.

Although I am great I won't rub it in like some of you are trying to make it appear.

Truly spoken like someone suffering from acute delusion,i am actually starting to feel sorry for you,it must be hard to live in a world where common sense and actual facts are alien to you.

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PCs are beyond peasants' "exclusive" concerns as long as developers tune their multiplat titles accordingly (i.e. don't give me a controller based UI unless it's: a platformer, fighting game, or sports game.)

Most PC gamers are not about excluding consolities. We just don't want your inclusion impinging on our experience due to the limitations of console platforms, or having supposed "multiplat" games designed around the limitations of a console and its controller.

I don't know that I've ever seen a petition from PC gamers to keep a supposed "exclusive" title from appearing on other platforms.

I can't say the same for consolites.

Kind of makes responding unnecessary doesn't it :P

Notice any similarities between Legend002 an AmazonAngry? I'm not saying they are the same person, but the only thing missing is an "Another herm bites the dust" gif.

Sure rag on console gaming. Feel any better knowing you'll never get to play Zelda or TLoU?

Who is making fun of console gaming and how?

I'm pretty sure if people cared enough about either of those titles then they'd just purchase the appropriate console required to enjoy them.

It's not ragging on McDonalds to say that filet mignon is amazing and better in every way way than a Big Mac. It's just better.

I don't see an issue,

A console fan can easily make this kind of thread for their favorite system, simply listing several of the fact based pros....

Instead they opt for troll and attack threads.

I'll list the pros of a console over PC:

Couch Gaming

Plug and Play

Better Games

Got nothing.

i think mass effect is the best example of what he's talking about.

between me1 on xbox 360 and me1 on ps3, a little over 5 years passed, which sounds about right for a exclusive publishing contract with regards to competing consoles.

but at the same time i'm not presenting direct evidence. this is indirect evidence which fits the model.

I feel his points are irrelevant but of course you conveniently left out the rest of my reply where I directly addressed his post.

I said "Your point only matters if Skyrim is behind the curve on pc optimization, so prove it."

Then again even if he could prove that a top of the line pc from 2005 can run Skyrim or any other multiplat as well as the 360 with better optimization then it simply means the 360 can run games as well as a $2,000 pc from 2005.

Most multiplats need an 8800 gt with a core 2 duo to beat the 360 performance and whether it's due to lack of optimization or lack of unified shaders on the pre 8 series is really irrelevant.

@Cranler: Newsflash, it's 2014 not 2005.

Dasin is the one who made a mountain out of a little remark I made about how powerful the 360 was for it's time.

why not?

Ummm no....

An 8800gt performs much much better than the 360.

Heck in Crysis 2 it performs around 3x better.

I know someone who has a much weaker 8600gts that can still outperform the 360.

And unified shaders tech is always relevant. It is the main reason the 360 performs much better in shader intensive games compared to PC GPUs from 2005 and before.

If you were abled to incorporate unified shader tech into the specs of a high end 2005 GPU then it would perform better than the Xbox 360 in shader intensive games.

In non shader intensive games a high end 2005 GPU will easily outperform the 360 as seen with earlier games of last gen.

Ummmm......I said the 8800 gt beats the 360's gpu.

I know someone that has the 8600 gts that can just about match the 360.

These benches don't show the 8600 gts being any better than the 360 http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2007/08/30/bioshock_gameplay_graphics_and_performance/9

And if they had put unified shaders into 2005 gpu's then they would have cost $1,000. So instead of needing a $2000 pc to match the 360 you would need a $3,000 pc.

Honestly, one of you two need to make a "360 graphics vs PC graphics in 2004." Because it keeps being a derailed topic for some reason on many threads.

You acted like you needed at the very least an 8800gt to beat the 360 when in fact there are many gpus below the 8800gt that have no problem performing better than the 360.

The 8600gts is not much more powerful than a 360 so the difference is not as large but you will see less of a difference in benchmarks that were performed early in it's lifespan because of the infancy of the drivers. An 8600gts on average will perform a little better than the 360.

The 360 performance wise is between an 8600gt and 8600gts.

And since you can overclock your video card you can get an addition performance boost.

I have a GTX 570 that performs better than a stock GTX 580 because I oced the GTX 570 from a core clock of 742mhz to 950mhz.

And stop pulling price figures out of your ass. You have no clue of the expense for adding unified shader tech to 2005 GPUs.

I do not deny that the 360 was a great performing console for it's time but that is due to it having certain features early than others.

Too bad this gen consoles are so under-powered that it's laughable.

That would be like if the 360 came out with a GPU comparable to a 2001 GPU and getting outperformed by a 1999 CPU.

Prove your performance claims.

If people were willing to pay $500 for a 7800 gtx then how much would they pay for a much better gpu? Look at the pricing of those high end AMD cpu's from 2005.

Your timeline is off. The 6870 was the top amd card 4 years before the 360 launch.

The PS 4 is weak for its time which makes it's graphical dominance even more amusing. The only exclusive the hermits have as a counter is a game which the hermits have to fund themselves. Some people have actually bought a $1,000 pre order package for Star Citizen.