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#1  Edited By deactivated-58abca96dfeb3
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I must admit, this good ol' grandpa doesn't get the new gaming world of the newer systems for the newer type driving sims games. I still think GT4 with the PS2 was and still remains the king. I completed the game 100% percent and built my 1000 car monster garage with earned credits and never had to spend "one single penny or any real money" online for anything, which is unlike some of the newer driving sim games that are out there now that drain your pocketbooks of real money. I run it in 1080i, and although it's not 1080P, it still provides wonderful real life like graphics. My videos below were filmed directly off my TV screen with my iPhone while running GT4 on my PS2 slim. NO gimmicks ever used. I say long live the PS2 !

I UPDATED MY VIDEOS HERE:

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@gt4_club said:

I must admit, this good ol' grandpa doesn't get the new gaming world of the newer systems for the newer type driving sims games. I still think GT4 with the PS2 was and still remains the king. I completed the game 100% percent and built my 1000 car monster garage with earned credits and never had to spend "one single penny or any real money" online for anything, which is unlike some of the newer driving sim games that are out there now that drain your pocketbooks of real money. I run it in 1080i, and although it's not 1080P, it still provides wonderful real life like graphics. My video below was filmed directly off my TV with my iPhone while running GT4 on my PS2 slim. No gimmicks used. I say long live the PS2 !

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You think that's "close" to real world graphics? Hahahaha it's in replay mode which will up the resolution some and it still looks like shit. GTFO with this garbage

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@kingtito said:
@gt4_club said:

I must admit, this good ol' grandpa doesn't get the new gaming world of the newer systems for the newer type driving sims games. I still think GT4 with the PS2 was and still remains the king. I completed the game 100% percent and built my 1000 car monster garage with earned credits and never had to spend "one single penny or any real money" online for anything, which is unlike some of the newer driving sim games that are out there now that drain your pocketbooks of real money. I run it in 1080i, and although it's not 1080P, it still provides wonderful real life like graphics. My video below was filmed directly off my TV with my iPhone while running GT4 on my PS2 slim. No gimmicks used. I say long live the PS2 !

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You think that's "close" to real world graphics? Hahahaha it's in replay mode which will up the resolution some and it still looks like shit. GTFO with this garbage

Considering that was running on PS2, a console released in 2000, still looks pretty damn nice to me. Even if it is cheating with replay mode.

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@2Chalupas said:
@kingtito said:
@gt4_club said:

I must admit, this good ol' grandpa doesn't get the new gaming world of the newer systems for the newer type driving sims games. I still think GT4 with the PS2 was and still remains the king. I completed the game 100% percent and built my 1000 car monster garage with earned credits and never had to spend "one single penny or any real money" online for anything, which is unlike some of the newer driving sim games that are out there now that drain your pocketbooks of real money. I run it in 1080i, and although it's not 1080P, it still provides wonderful real life like graphics. My video below was filmed directly off my TV with my iPhone while running GT4 on my PS2 slim. No gimmicks used. I say long live the PS2 !

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You think that's "close" to real world graphics? Hahahaha it's in replay mode which will up the resolution some and it still looks like shit. GTFO with this garbage

Considering that was running on PS2, a console released in 2000, still looks pretty damn nice to me. Even if it is cheating with replay mode.

For a console released in 2000 without gimmicks according to the TC. He's claiming "real world graphics" which clearly it's not.

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#5  Edited By deactivated-58abca96dfeb3
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I made my point... Further the replay is not cheating as the GT4 racing is also in 1080i, not only the replays. Frankly, I see no difference in the graphics when actually racing...

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For a Ps2 game it still looks great. Heck even MGS2 on Ps2 still impresses me to this day.

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I still have my copy of GT4 and my original PS2. I haven't played it in years, your video makes me want to go back. Looks good for a PS2 game.

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#8  Edited By BassMan
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GT4 was great at the time, but I would much rather play Assetto Corsa and Project Cars on PC and Forza 6 on XB1. You are stuck in the past grandpa.

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Nope forza 4 hell even project Gotham 4 looks better than gt 4

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Come jump on Forza mate! GT is done, unfortunately :(

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GTA4 >>>>> Flopza

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I read that thread title and thought I had a stroke.

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Quickly lets jump him! He likes a racing game we don't like!! That's not allowed

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#14  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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Pretty cool if you still enjoy it all these years later man. Though these kinds of games have come a long ways since then. If you think that highly of GT4, then you'll probably have your mind blown when you try something more modern.

There are plenty of gen 6 games that still hold their own against their modern counterparts, but simcade racers? Nah, they just continue to get better.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Pretty cool if you still enjoy it all these years later man. Though these kinds of games have come a long ways since then. If you think that highly of GT4, then you'll probably have your mind blown when you try something more modern.

There are plenty of gen 6 games that still hold their own against their modern counterparts, but simcade racers? Nah, they just continue to get better.

Forza Motorsport 2 was my mind bomb. Coming from GT4 was like night and day. Then 3 and 4 came out.

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Stop being a grandpa and play Project Cars or Forza 6.

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@dakur said:

GTA4 >>>>> Flopza

Have you played Forza to deem that an opinion?

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#18  Edited By cainetao11
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@dakur said:

GTA4 >>>>> Flopza

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Turn 10 dropped the 3rd Atomic bomb on Polyphony ages ago, LOL Only sony sycophants try to deny it at this point. Forza took that crown a loooooonnnnnggg time ago

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Forza Motorsport 2 was my mind bomb. Coming from GT4 was like night and day. Then 3 and 4 came out.

Yup, I was a die hard GT fan too, but Forza earned its place quickly.

And even if we were just talking GT games, that series has also outdone GT4. GT5 was kind of shit when it came to the overall career structure, but the driving and visuals were definitely a marked improvement over GT4.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Yup, I was a die hard GT fan too, but Forza earned its place quickly.

And even if we were just talking GT games, that series has also outdone GT4. GT5 was kind of shit when it came to the overall career structure, but the driving and visuals were definitely a marked improvement over GT4.

The driving was full shit compared to Forza, and the sound design was so flat. I got GT6 for like $7, spent over 10 hours downloading updates, and played it for about 30 minutes before going back to Forza. I just can't stand those vacuum cleaner cars anymore.

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#21  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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@foxhound_fox:

Yeah definitely, I don't know if PD will ever catch up to T10 at this point.

If I had to say GT is still better at something, it would be... more natural lighting? lol. Even the "more content" advantage doesn't work since the Forza games have quality over quantity and more cars that I'd actually want to drive.

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#22  Edited By commander
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@kingtito said:
@2Chalupas said:
@kingtito said:
@gt4_club said:

I must admit, this good ol' grandpa doesn't get the new gaming world of the newer systems for the newer type driving sims games. I still think GT4 with the PS2 was and still remains the king. I completed the game 100% percent and built my 1000 car monster garage with earned credits and never had to spend "one single penny or any real money" online for anything, which is unlike some of the newer driving sim games that are out there now that drain your pocketbooks of real money. I run it in 1080i, and although it's not 1080P, it still provides wonderful real life like graphics. My video below was filmed directly off my TV with my iPhone while running GT4 on my PS2 slim. No gimmicks used. I say long live the PS2 !

Loading Video...

You think that's "close" to real world graphics? Hahahaha it's in replay mode which will up the resolution some and it still looks like shit. GTFO with this garbage

Considering that was running on PS2, a console released in 2000, still looks pretty damn nice to me. Even if it is cheating with replay mode.

For a console released in 2000 without gimmicks according to the TC. He's claiming "real world graphics" which clearly it's not.

the man needs to quit living in the past, since he doesn't know what he is missing

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@popgotcha said:
@dakur said:

GTA4 >>>>> Flopza

Have you played Forza to deem that an opinion?

No, He's a butthurt cow

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@popgotcha said:
@dakur said:

GTA4 >>>>> Flopza

Have you played Forza to deem that an opinion?

No, He's a butthurt cow

Did he mean GT4? Cause GTA4 is a completely different game

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@popgotcha said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@popgotcha said:
@dakur said:

GTA4 >>>>> Flopza

Have you played Forza to deem that an opinion?

No, He's a butthurt cow

Did he mean GT4? Cause GTA4 is a completely different game

Don't mind dakurt, he's just a Sony troll, you would have an easier time & get more sense talking to a chimpanzee. There's a gif we like to use when dakurt tries to converse with us and it's this one

You'd do well to remember it.

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@i_p_daily said:
@popgotcha said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@popgotcha said:
@dakur said:

GTA4 >>>>> Flopza

Have you played Forza to deem that an opinion?

No, He's a butthurt cow

Did he mean GT4? Cause GTA4 is a completely different game

Don't mind dakurt, he's just a Sony troll, you would have an easier time & get more sense talking to a chimpanzee. There's a gif we like to use when dakurt tries to converse with us and it's this one

You'd do well to remember it.

He's not even a good troll though.

I'd pick Cowjenga and Quacknight on my team anyday

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@i_p_daily said:
@popgotcha said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@popgotcha said:

Have you played Forza to deem that an opinion?

No, He's a butthurt cow

Did he mean GT4? Cause GTA4 is a completely different game

Don't mind dakurt, he's just a Sony troll, you would have an easier time & get more sense talking to a chimpanzee. There's a gif we like to use when dakurt tries to converse with us and it's this one

You'd do well to remember it.

He's not even a good troll though.

I'd pick Cowjenga and Quacknight on my team anyday

You would? i destroyed both of them in the other car thread, which makes me wonder who's alt is this OP's

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#28 PopGotcha
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@FLOPPAGE_50: @i_p_daily I'm a sucker for banter though, regardless of console. I do enjoy that GIF!

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#29  Edited By deactivated-58abca96dfeb3
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Ka Ching Ka Ching Ka Ching-Being from Nevada it's clear to me now that there really are suckers born every minute. Y'all don't get it... The new driving sims now are sadly turning into nothing more than just BIG FANCY APPS taking away all your marbles. Then they close down their respective online sources leaving you helpless to buy their new release and then repeat the process over and over again. Sadly, you right in one regard, that sadly, the PS2 days are over with when you could just buy your favorite game, never spend another cent, locate very cool Easter Eggs, and enjoy it and play it totally offline.

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@gt4_club said:

Ka Ching Ka Ching Ka Ching-Being from Nevada it's clear to me now that there really are suckers born every minute. Y'all don't get it... The new driving sims now are sadly turning into nothing more than just BIG FANCY APPS taking away all your marbles. Then they close down their respective online sources leaving you helpless to buy their new release and then repeat the process over and over again. Sadly, you right in one regard, that sadly, the PS2 days are over with when you could just buy your favorite game, never spend another cent, locate very cool Easter Eggs like below, and enjoy it and play it totally offline.

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#31  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@popgotcha said:

@FLOPPAGE_50: @i_p_daily I'm a sucker for banter though, regardless of console. I do enjoy that GIF!

Oh i do like the banter also, but dakurt is stupid beyond belief. I look at it this way when it comes to him.

Never argue with an idiot as they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience :)

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#32 Dakur
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@i_p_daily: nah you're just butthurt

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@dakur said:

@i_p_daily: nah you're just butthurt

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#34  Edited By deactivated-58abca96dfeb3
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Who cares cause I don't care that you don't care. Anyway, I'm so happy I saved all my PS2 and GT4 stuff. Hell, I even have second sets ( all like brand new ) for backup-PS2 Silver Slim, Matching Controllers, Logitech Driving Force Pro Wheel & Pedal Set, Etc... and even a brand new sealed Black Label GT4 game CD. To bad so sad that some of y'all racing cows are getting "milked" out of your pocket change. Oh... Thanks for the photo message and here's a road graffiti message for you...

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@gt4_club: It's interesting that a troll would pick a specific game to be obsessed with. Kudos sir.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

@foxhound_fox:

Yeah definitely, I don't know if PD will ever catch up to T10 at this point.

If I had to say GT is still better at something, it would be... more natural lighting? lol. Even the "more content" advantage doesn't work since the Forza games have quality over quantity and more cars that I'd actually want to drive.

That's something that really pissed me off about GT5. I started playing it after being knee deep in FM4 so I was going in with a heavy bias, but I gave it a good chance. Then, when I finally got a Fiat Coupe 20V (one of my favourite cars of all time, thanks to FM), I found out I couldn't take it on a photo tour, and the interior wasn't modeled (only graybox) and I was upset. I gave up on GT5 after that.

Then I went back to FM4 again and all was better.

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@gt4_club: well it's nice for you that you're still happy with your ps2 stuff, I have experienced the ps2 as well (allthough I wouldn't call myself a grandpa at 39) but I really couldn't play these old graphics when I can play something like assetto corsa, forza 6 or project cars. Of course you'll pay for them , but it's worth the price to me. Forza is the worst when it comes to in game transactions though, but there are other games out there, games that are way better than gran tourismo on the ps2.

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#38 PopGotcha
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@gt4_club keep on living in the past then man. Don't knock recent racing titles until you've at least tried them. GT4 is still a classic in my opinion, but I will never go back to play it when I know there are much better racing sim's around now

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#39  Edited By deactivated-58abca96dfeb3
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Updated my videos today "at beginning of this thread" even though that a few of you don't deserve to see these finer things of PS2 and GT4 beauty...

Anyway, here's some good old age wisdom for the racing Forza and PD folks... When y'all come out with your 7's mark 'em as a lifetime final... ie-make it the last one. By that I mean create a one time lifetime fee (no surprises) with NO further charges and never close down your online site. Only update it for future purposes such as patches required, graphic updates, newest cars and newest tracks, great offline play, etc, and the like... all downloadable for any lifetime paid member. Create a bundle with the system such as Scorpio or PS5 with all needed such as the system, steering wheel & pedals, the game itself, etc....Ya do that and you'll get great advertisers for online view while downloads take place, but not in the game itself, which should cover all other needs provided your lifetime fee charge is establised enough and is honored. I'm sure if you do a good job on the game itself as well you'll stay number one for a very long long time. Good luck y'all...

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Forza 6 and project cars don't even have microtransactions. Lol

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@dakur said:

@i_p_daily: nah you're just butthurt

Says the PS4 fan in a racing thread.

LMAO