Sunset Overdrive running at 900p, allows for chaos!

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#1  Edited By clyde46
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Sunset Overdrive hits the Xbox One as an exclusive to Microsoft's console on October 28, but days before its release, the developer behind the game has started talking about why they changed from running the game at 1080p, to 900p.

The downshift in resolution allowed the developer to have more on-screen action, as 1080p would've seen a reduction in on-screen mayhem as the frame rate would obviously drop. Creative Director with Insomniac Games, Marcus Smith, said: "Why would you want less action on screen? That's insanity. 900p works perfect for us. We spent a lot of time comparing and contrasting. We had it running at 1080p, we'd play it; we had it running at 900p, we'd play it and they didn't look considerably different. But the things that you could draw on screen were a lot more, and we wanted to draw a lot more on screen. More action, more better. Michael Bay would be very proud".

Another game where the 'next-gen' consoles, this time an Xbox One exclusive, is running the previous generation specs: 900p (or so) at 30FPS. I would've preferred to have heard they dropped to 720p and enabled AA, but bumping the frame rate up to a solid 60FPS.

Read more at http://www.tweaktown.com/news/40721/sunset-overdrive-on-xbox-one-at-900p-allowed-more-mayhem-still-30fps/index.html

This is further proof that console devs will have to decide on whats more important. Resolution and FPS or on screen content.

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#2 Krelian-co
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but i thought this game would use TEH POWA OF TEH CLOUD! 10 xbones of powa! teh sdk! teh directx!

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#3 Sollet
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bla bla damage control bla bla

That's all I am reading.

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#4  Edited By legendofsense
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Bu bu bu lazy devs

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#5 sukraj
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Just 8 days

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#6  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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Looks no more chaotic than Infamous tbh.

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#7  Edited By silversix_
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lol a 900p game released in almost 2015. I'd ask this Marcus Smith guy if he isn't ashamed of releasing a 900p game on a console released less than a year ago and worth half a grand, would like to see his opinion on "900p works perfectly for us".

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#8  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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Insomniac does a lot of bullshit spinning before their games release. Remember Fuse? Ted Price was on every website hyping up the game

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#10 HalcyonScarlet
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Insomniac does a lot of bullshit spinning before their games release. Remember Fuse? Ted Price was on every website hyping up the game

But this is at least plausible. It's not like saying 'we chose 30fps to make it look more cinematic'. It's at least accurate to say 'high resolution would equal less shit on screen unless you want massive frame rate drops'.

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#11 DEadliNE-Zero0
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We knew this already. Still, they'd have done 1080p 60fps if the hardware wasn't weak.

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#12 silversix_
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@Desmonic said:

when your hardware base is limited.

exactly. and for the amount of money people payed, it shouldn't be anywhere near as limited.

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@silversix_ said:

@Desmonic said:

when your hardware base is limited.

exactly. and for the amount of money people payed, it shouldn't be anywhere near as limited.

Same could be said for the PS4 as well. 2014 and only 1080/30 is the best the PS4 has managed and even then if was a stretch.

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Game looks fun, that's all that matters, I'm disappointed when my Pc doesnt run 60fps at 1080p but not my consoles.

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#15 kuu2
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Maybe they should have just said it was a cimematic design choice, right Cows???

Lulz...............

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#16 silversix_
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@clyde46 said:

@silversix_ said:

@Desmonic said:

when your hardware base is limited.

exactly. and for the amount of money people payed, it shouldn't be anywhere near as limited.

Same could be said for the PS4 as well. 2014 and only 1080/30 is the best the PS4 has managed and even then if was a stretch.

yes same could be and should be said about ps4 BUT it was cheaper and maxes my monitor resolution....... at least that is achieved with ps4

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#17  Edited By bunchanumbers
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The game looks great. As long as the game is a blast the resolution shouldn't be a issue. Its just more Cows trying to lord their system with no decent exclusives.

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#18 silversix_
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@sailor232 said:

Game looks fun, that's all that matters, I'm disappointed when my Pc doesnt run 60fps at 1080p but not my consoles.


then don't worry because this game will be on pc six months or less after the Bone release

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#19 mikhail
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I'm sure DX12 and The Cloud will fix it.

lol, consoles.

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#20 Ten_Pints
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I don't see why they are getting defensive about it. It's clearly a design choice. You don't get developers being defensive about why their PS4 game is not downsampled from 2160p.

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#21 clyde46
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@ten_pints said:

I don't see why they are getting defensive about it. It's clearly a design choice. You don't get developers being defensive about why their PS4 game is not downsampled from 2160p.

Because that never happened....

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#22 FoxbatAlpha
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This game is still running in 0000p on the PS4.

R

Enjoy playing with cross gen Sock Boy cows!

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#23 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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How is the Driveflop doing for you cows?? I mean what other exclusive do you have right now? I am going to LoL when Sunset gets an 8 or 9 and then the cows try to discredit the GS reviewer.

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#24  Edited By legendofsense
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@ShoTTyMcNaDeS said:

How is the Driveflop doing for you cows?? I mean what other exclusive do you have right now? I am going to LoL when Sunset gets an 8 or 9 and then the cows try to discredit the GS reviewer.

I'm gong to LoL equally as hard if Sunset flops and then lems try to discredit the GS reviewer. I win either way! Will have popcorn ready.

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#25 killzowned24
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Xbone gets a sub 1080p game EVERY week...LOL. And going by previews the game wont even ryse above a 5.

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#26  Edited By funkmaster1233
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Poor Cows. They are desperate for an X1 game to flop because they are still awaiting greatness from their beloved childhood heroes at Sony.

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#27 SecretPolice
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ef that shy mangt, they should have made an empty dead city with zero going on and we'd have 1080P no problem, damn you Insomniac, damn you, what the hell were you thinking. :P

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#28 GhoX
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It's just a roundabout way of saying "the hardware is not strong enough to support the same amount of action at 1080p". At least they are not completely eating their foot with statements like "900p 30fps is more cinematic!", so said Ubisoft.

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@silversix_ said:

@Desmonic said:

when your hardware base is limited.

exactly. and for the amount of money people payed, it shouldn't be anywhere near as limited.

With the XBox One, you're paying a premium for the Microsoft brand name over performance.

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#31  Edited By silversix_
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@Shewgenja said:

@silversix_ said:

@Desmonic said:

when your hardware base is limited.

exactly. and for the amount of money people payed, it shouldn't be anywhere near as limited.

With the XBox One, you're paying a premium for the Microsoft brand name over performance.

and free ads as a cherry on top

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#33  Edited By silversix_
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@sts106mat said:

@silversix_ said:

@Shewgenja said:

@silversix_ said:

@Desmonic said:

when your hardware base is limited.

exactly. and for the amount of money people payed, it shouldn't be anywhere near as limited.

With the XBox One, you're paying a premium for the Microsoft brand name over performance.

and free ads as a cherry on top

well only on playstation do people actually pay for ads..like driveclub and GT Prologue

and only on XBL do you pay $60 per year to see more ads related to random shit that isn't gaming ON a gaming system

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#34 clyde46
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@silversix_ said:

@sts106mat said:

@silversix_ said:

@Shewgenja said:

@silversix_ said:

@Desmonic said:

when your hardware base is limited.

exactly. and for the amount of money people payed, it shouldn't be anywhere near as limited.

With the XBox One, you're paying a premium for the Microsoft brand name over performance.

and free ads as a cherry on top

well only on playstation do people actually pay for ads..like driveclub and GT Prologue

and only on XBL do you pay $60 per year to see more ads related to random shit that isn't gaming ON a gaming system

You pay for cable TV? Same thing.

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#35  Edited By kinectthedots
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@FastRobby said:

@GhoX said:

It's just a roundabout way of saying "the hardware is not strong enough to support the same amount of action at 1080p". At least they are not completely eating their foot with statements like "900p 30fps is more cinematic!", so said Ubisoft.

They could have done 1080p, but then it would have been as boring as Infamous

It's already said to be as "boring as Infamous" but now it's just as boring while also being a lot less graphically impressive and coming out half a year after. Please be excited.

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#36 StormyJoe
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@clyde46: Wasn't this first confirmed like 6 months ago?

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#38  Edited By Rictshard
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@silversix_ said:

@sts106mat said:

@silversix_ said:

@Shewgenja said:

@silversix_ said:

@Desmonic said:

when your hardware base is limited.

exactly. and for the amount of money people payed, it shouldn't be anywhere near as limited.

With the XBox One, you're paying a premium for the Microsoft brand name over performance.

and free ads as a cherry on top

well only on playstation do people actually pay for ads..like driveclub and GT Prologue

and only on XBL do you pay $60 per year to see more ads related to random shit that isn't gaming ON a gaming system

I love it when people complain about ads. They take up a small part of the UI and I'm not even on my dashboard long enough to care anyway. It isn't like Youtube where you're forced to watch an ad before watching a video or in the case of a game console before playing your game.

Just something for people to complain about.

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#39  Edited By Shewgenja
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@clyde46 said:

You pay for cable TV? Same thing.

Should we really compare gaming to the entertainment media we shut off to play our games? We were a growing industry because we shunned such thinking twenty years ago.

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#40  Edited By kinectthedots
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Honestly 900p is fine, hell not all games are going to be able to be pushed out at 1080p in 60fps even on PC so that's not a big problem. The issue here is that Sunset Overdrive isn't even that much of a graphically impressive game to begin with.

Everyone understands reducing resolution provides for more performance but that's usually acceptable when pushing a technically demanding game which Sunset Overdrive really doesn't classify as.

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#41 Shewgenja
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@rictshard said:

I love it when people complain about ads. They take up a small part of the UI and I'm not even on my dashboard long enough to care anyway. It isn't like Youtube where you're forced to watch an ad before watching a video or in the case of a game console before playing your game.

Just something for people to complain about.

No. It's really not. That's why games are $60. You pay a high premium for commercial-free entertainment. At least, it used to be that way... When the industry was growing rather than seemingly saturated and having major players like MS who seek alternative revenue generation streams to maximize their profit model at the expense of market growth/appeal.

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#42 Heil68
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Doesn't bother me, been waiting for this game since reveal. The only real reason I bought an Xbone so early is this game.

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#43  Edited By aroxx_ab
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So you have to choose 1080p OR Much on screen, you cant have both on Xbox

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#45  Edited By Crypt_mx
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@aroxx_ab said:

So you have to choose 1080p OR Much on screen, you cant have both on Xbox

You can't have either on Sony's console. The Order is sub 1080p with very little on the screen at any given time.

Could Sunset have run at 1080/30fps on the PS4? Perhaps, but again, none of us are programmers or designers. We do not know exactly what the trade off was, maybe with what they are rendering it would have been similar on the PS4 anyway. They are really very similar consoles, maybe the PS4 would have had better shadows or foliage or something like that but still not be able to push 1080p. I just don't understand Sony fanboys. The greatest thing the PS4 has achieved right now is 1080p 30fps, what's everyone bragging about? Plenty of X1 games nowadays are 1080p, and then the one that puts a bunch of crazy stuff on the screen gets criticized for being 900. What about if it's fun?

Forbes said themselves "900p be damned, this game is beautiful!" (or something to that extent) after their two hour preview.

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#46 Alcapello
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Is this the game where you control the character? LOL no thx

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@kuu2@FoxbatAlpha

Are we gonna co-op and you guys show me what real gaming is :P ?

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#48 aroxx_ab
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@Crypt_mx said:

@aroxx_ab said:

So you have to choose 1080p OR Much on screen, you cant have both on Xbox

You can't have either on Sony's console. The Order is sub 1080p with very little on the screen at any given time.

Could Sunset have run at 1080/30fps on the PS4? Perhaps, but again, none of us are programmers or designers. We do not know exactly what the trade off was, maybe with what they are rendering it would have been similar on the PS4 anyway. They are really very similar consoles, maybe the PS4 would have had better shadows or foliage or something like that but still not be able to push 1080p. I just don't understand Sony fanboys. The greatest thing the PS4 has achieved right now is 1080p 30fps, what's everyone bragging about? Plenty of X1 games nowadays are 1080p, and then the one that puts a bunch of crazy stuff on the screen gets criticized for being 900. What about if it's fun?

Forbes said themselves "900p be damned, this game is beautiful!" (or something to that extent) after their two hour preview.

Ubisoft shows Ps4 got double GPU score than Xboner so yeah Ps4 could had done both

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#49 SecretPolice
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@alcapello said:

Is this the game where you control the character? LOL no thx

Wait, what?? You prefer games where you don't control the character? Movie game fan confirmed. :P