Steam's User Numbers Show PC Gaming is Dying Again

@The_Last_Ride:

Right...so by that reasoning it should be Microsoft's XP / Vista / Windows 7 / Windows 8.1 / XBox / XBox 360 / XBox 1 vs. PS2 / PS3 / PSP/ Vita / PS4. You actually want to combine two systems with that logic LOL.

System user base / Company user base. I'd pick the logical one but that is just me.

I hope you truly don't believe that it should be Microsoft's PC/XBox vs Sony Playstation. Because that would be really pathetic.

lems have been trying to pull that card for a while now, they are that desperate.

Whats funny is even if he combines all Sony systems through PSN, it still has less concurrent,total,active than just Steam.

I can only imagine if you include Battle.net, LoL, Origin, etc.

Oh god... You don't get it, i am comparing one companies eco system vs another ones...

PC Gaming > Sony Gaming

In YOUR opinion...

Wait what? I am using the sony system vs pc. An open fucking system vs closed systems that Sony have provided. How is that pathetic? I really don't think people have common sense here sometimes in SW

In YOUR opinion...

Wait what? I am using the sony system vs pc. An open fucking system vs closed systems that Sony have provided. How is that pathetic? I really don't think people have common sense here sometimes in SW

notice how you use singular when talking about pc and plural when talking about sony? yeah, that's where your "common sense" ends. The fact that is open is just one of the devastating advantages pc have.

Looking at all your posts trying to discredit this milestone.

Why do you care?

Why is this a milestone? It's YOUR opinion if you prefer one platform over another, that's not fact

My comparison was Sony vs Valve....

valve has one platform, sony has several, sound to me you are quite desperate to find a way to join all playstations vs pc, it's like the dumb people trying to mix pc and xbox because "windows is a microsoft platform", how dumb is that, this gen is pc, ps4, xbone and wii u, each is a different single system, dealwithit.

Why is this a milestone? It's YOUR opinion if you prefer one platform over another, that's not fact

So since consoles have more accounts, what's next for PC?

Even if you went by his rules it would still be Valve > Sony.

There's roughly 250 million Steam accounts in existence, and as of three months ago 125 million of them were active.

Get your facts straight mate...

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Again, that is your opinion. Doesn't mean it's fact

Consolites still trying to convince themselves that gaming industry only revolves around them

Get your facts straight mate...

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Again, that is your opinion. Doesn't mean it's fact

Wow, so many fans for the MOBA rip off genre.

I've been a Steam user since it was in beta for Counter-Strike 1.6, when I get home from work I will explain the account generation algorithm and the Unique ID / Steam ID creation to you.

There's roughly 250 million accounts in existence and as of three months ago 125 million are active.

I showed my evidence, unless you have some proof of this, i won't believe you and you have nothing to back it up with

Honestly I really don't care how popular my platform of choice gets, I just hope it doesn't turn into what consoles have become with mass marketed bullshit of AAA games.. Now a days I am finding the niche games by smaller devs far more interesting most of the time because they are actually willing to take risks and specifically target a fanbase rather than trying to mass market their shit.. We really saw this with World of Warcraft, a excellent game at it's release in shaking up many of the MMO formulas, but it also caused a lot of negative things in the genre.. Publishers saw money signs when they saw the once niche market, mmorpg's, get upwards to multi million subscribers from this game.. Than came the flood of many unimaginative mmorpg theme park games, some good ones, that were victims of their own ridiculous expectations.. Before WoW, EQ1 was considered the grand daddy and during its hay day it only had around 500k subscribers (which was seen as huge)..

This led to many ridiculous expectations because these publishers started basing their success around the unrealistic goals of reaching WoW.. Warhammer Online is a huge example of this, it had some great qualities to it, but it didn't meet EA's expectations with subscriber base and they slowly pulled funding from the game from getting anywhere to where it eventually died. I don't want to see this in which a game's success is automatically passed or failed based on an expectation comparison of a leader of the industry.. That is what we are seeing as of late with many of these FPS's for instance that the publisher is pushing to be as successful as CoD instead of trying to make their own game.. Where if it isn't a instant multi million copy seller, it's not worth making all of a sudden.. We saw this with Capcom, completely abandoning the Megaman series, to ruining Resident Evil.. Because these companies for some reason can't have smaller projects with more realistic expectations, it has to be a massive hit or it's just not worth the effort. This is what is going to cause a crash, where devs are hinging massive funds to "safe" developments of games based on the leaders of the market.

Eh, I totally forgot.

The Last Ride is the same guy that always makes an anti-steam thread every time a Steam Sale rolls out.

Nothing to see here, folks

As of 30 minutes ago I was generated the unique ID of U:1:235982049, or in other words, 235,982,049, there are nearly 236 million Steam accounts in existence as of today.

236 MILLION STEAM ACCOUNTS

Can I help you with anything else?

Steam has Steam ID's and 32 bit unique ID's, your Steam ID is generated by the division of your unique ID. When a Steam account is created you're issued a unique ID which is your actual account creation position in relation to how many accounts were created before yours. For example my unique ID is U:1:15399 as my account was the 15,399th account generated on the platform, my corresponding Steam ID is STEAM_0:1:7699, as you can see below.

The 0:0 or 0:1 in a Steam ID is a direct result of your unique ID being divided by two, 15,399 / 2 = 7699.5, when your unique ID divides in half with a .5 remainder on the end you will be generated a 0:1 ID designation, if it divides evenly you will be parsed a 0:0 designation. Here is an example of that.

U:1:16000 divides evenly to 8,000 and gives this user a Steam ID of 0:0:8000

This user also has a Steam ID which equals 8,000, however as you can see his unique ID is 16,001 which like I said earlier leaves a .5 remainder which nets him a 0:1 to create 0:1:8000

Every Steam ID has a mate, however a small percentage of accounts are created within another universe in the Steam network and do not have a public mate, for example my 0:1:7699 account does not have a 0:0:7699 mate, not public anyways. It was created in one of the 4 other universes which would make it 2:0:7699, 3:0:7699, 4:0:7699 or 5:0:7699, none of these are publicly accessible, they are created by developers or Valve employees. In the universes 1 is simply the new Steam ID format for games created post Left 4 Dead, your account will show up as 1:1 or 1:0, it' simply a newer network but your ID does not actually change in relation to its initial creation, it's still 0:0 or 0:1.

Here are the known universes, there are two others but they are not listed anywhere that is publicly viewable and their numerical identifiers are unknown.

So with that in mind let's get to the point of this entire post shall we, we have established that your unique ID is your actual position in line in terms of account generation, we have established that your Steam ID is the result of that ID being divided by two, we have gone over Steam ID mates, the different universe of accounts and so on an so forth, so where does that leave us?

Well I'll show you, I created a new Steam account 30 minutes ago and ran over the generation information and this is where we are left.

As of 30 minutes ago I was generated the unique ID of U:1:235982049, or in other words, 235,982,049, there are nearly 236 million Steam accounts in existence as of today.

236 MILLION STEAM ACCOUNTS

Can I help you with anything else?

Steam has Steam ID's and 32 bit unique ID's, your Steam ID is generated by the division of your unique ID. When a Steam account is created you're issued a unique ID which is your actual account creation position in relation to how many accounts were created before yours. For example my unique ID is U:1:15399 as my account was the 15,399th account generated on the platform, my corresponding Steam ID is STEAM_0:1:7699, as you can see below.

The 0:0 or 0:1 in a Steam ID is a direct result of your unique ID being divided by two, 15,399 / 2 = 7699.5, when your unique ID divides in half with a .5 remainder on the end you will be generated a 0:1 ID designation, if it divides evenly you will be parsed a 0:0 designation. Here is an example of that.

U:1:16000 divides evenly to 8,000 and gives this user a Steam ID of 0:0:8000

This user also has a Steam ID which equals 8,000, however as you can see his unique ID is 16,001 which like I said earlier leaves a .5 remainder which nets him a 0:1 to create 0:1:8000

Every Steam ID has a mate, however a small percentage of accounts are created within another universe in the Steam network and do not have a public mate, for example my 0:1:7699 account does not have a 0:0:7699 mate, not public anyways. It was created in one of the 4 other universes which would make it 2:0:7699, 3:0:7699, 4:0:7699 or 5:0:7699, none of these are publicly accessible, they are created by developers or Valve employees. In the universes 1 is simply the new Steam ID format for games created post Left 4 Dead, your account will show up as 1:1 or 1:0, it' simply a newer network but your ID does not actually change in relation to its initial creation, it's still 0:0 or 0:1.

Here are the known universes, there are two others but they are not listed anywhere that is publicly viewable and their numerical identifiers are unknown.

So with that in mind let's get to the point of this entire post shall we, we have established that your unique ID is your actual position in line in terms of account generation, we have established that your Steam ID is the result of that ID being divided by two, we have gone over Steam ID mates, the different universe of accounts and so on an so forth, so where does that leave us?

Well I'll show you, I created a new Steam account 30 minutes ago and ran over the generation information and this is where we are left.

As of 30 minutes ago I was generated the unique ID of U:1:235982049, or in other words, 235,982,049, there are nearly 236 million Steam accounts in existence as of today.

236 MILLION STEAM ACCOUNTS

Can I help you with anything else?

@mr_huggles_dog: Console gaming would be a lot healthier if Ubisoft games didn't sell as well on them.

Steam has Steam ID's and 32 bit unique ID's, your Steam ID is generated by the division of your unique ID. When a Steam account is created you're issued a unique ID which is your actual account creation position in relation to how many accounts were created before yours. For example my unique ID is U:1:15399 as my account was the 15,399th account generated on the platform, my corresponding Steam ID is STEAM_0:1:7699, as you can see below.

The 0:0 or 0:1 in a Steam ID is a direct result of your unique ID being divided by two, 15,399 / 2 = 7699.5, when your unique ID divides in half with a .5 remainder on the end you will be generated a 0:1 ID designation, if it divides evenly you will be parsed a 0:0 designation. Here is an example of that.

U:1:16000 divides evenly to 8,000 and gives this user a Steam ID of 0:0:8000

This user also has a Steam ID which equals 8,000, however as you can see his unique ID is 16,001 which like I said earlier leaves a .5 remainder which nets him a 0:1 to create 0:1:8000

Every Steam ID has a mate, however a small percentage of accounts are created within another universe in the Steam network and do not have a public mate, for example my 0:1:7699 account does not have a 0:0:7699 mate, not public anyways. It was created in one of the 4 other universes which would make it 2:0:7699, 3:0:7699, 4:0:7699 or 5:0:7699, none of these are publicly accessible, they are created by developers or Valve employees. In the universes 1 is simply the new Steam ID format for games created post Left 4 Dead, your account will show up as 1:1 or 1:0, it' simply a newer network but your ID does not actually change in relation to its initial creation, it's still 0:0 or 0:1.

Here are the known universes, there are two others but they are not listed anywhere that is publicly viewable and their numerical identifiers are unknown.

So with that in mind let's get to the point of this entire post shall we, we have established that your unique ID is your actual position in line in terms of account generation, we have established that your Steam ID is the result of that ID being divided by two, we have gone over Steam ID mates, the different universe of accounts and so on an so forth, so where does that leave us?

Well I'll show you, I created a new Steam account 30 minutes ago and ran over the generation information and this is where we are left.

As of 30 minutes ago I was generated the unique ID of U:1:235982049, or in other words, 235,982,049, there are nearly 236 million Steam accounts in existence as of today.

236 MILLION STEAM ACCOUNTS

Can I help you with anything else?

Eh, I totally forgot.

The Last Ride is the same guy that always makes an anti-steam thread every time a Steam Sale rolls out.

Nothing to see here, folks

Wrong. Steam doesn't give refunds and the service got an F in costumer service by the BBB. It's a shitty service imho

Steam gives out refunds in the event of product failure, in other words a game that doesn't work, work properly or is extremely bugged. Why would they give out refunds because you changed your mind? That's stupid, you also agree to their terms of service outlined in the SSA so even asking for a refund is stupid, getting pissed at them for not refunding you is stupid, you agreed to their terms so if you buy a game and seek a refund if the game is not broken you're a fucking moron...

Do you know how many good businesses have F ratings on the BBB? Thousands... It's not hard to get an F rating and the Better Business Bureau doesn't mean shit, also Valve's rating is mostly based upon their customer service system and lack of issuing refunds... Ironically over the last 12 years I've been on Steam I've not had a single issue that support did not handle in a relatively timely manner.

So why exactly is the service shitty?

No, they do not give refunds. Hell Origin is better giving you a refund even after downloading the game within 24 hours. Valve doesn't do that. They even violated European law by doing that and had to fix it. Attack my argument and don't result to ad hominems...

There 2000 complaints about them, they're irrelevant? They even acknowledged that themselves