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#1 hakanakumono
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But they just wanted to let you know that they're trying to make The 3rd Birthday the "highest rated PSP game" (ever?) and to please trust them (also with Agito). Even though you'll still hate them for being on the PSP.

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/11/09/the-3rd-birthday-director-wants-to-earn-your-trust/

Parasite Eve is one of the major IPs Square is trying to resurrect along with Front Mission (which did terribly, but wasn't made by Square). Oh and Europe is confirmed for both PE games on PSN, so keep an eye out.

I'm too lazy to go back in time and grab these sources, so please trust me. I assure you this is some of the most "reliable information on system wars."

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#2 J-WOW
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we got reasons for our hate, they dun goof'd up this gen and for giving the PS3 the cold shoulder

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#3 Espada12
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Hmm so basically square did the whole "I got this bro" routine? It looks good from what I've seen though so maybe we should cut them some slack.

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#4 RandomWinner
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I hate them because they take a great game, like KH, make a sequel with an unnecessary plot, then make 30 spin offs rather than making an actual SEQUEL!!! I hate square, if they went bankrupt and had to pass up all their franchises to other developers I'd probably throw a parade.

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#5 J-WOW
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Hmm so basically square did the whole "I got this bro" routine? It looks good from what I've seen though so maybe we should cut them some slack.

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NO, thats just wat they want. They have been pretty meh this gen and we need to make sure they get back on track
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#6 hakanakumono
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we got reasons for our hate, they dun goof'd up this gen and for giving the PS3 the cold shoulder

J-WOW

They basically tried to create a single engine for any potential project they would ever want to do on PS3, but it turned out to be a terrible idea and it took them forever.

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I hate them because they take a great game, like KH, make a sequel with an unnecessary plot, then make 30 spin offs rather than making an actual SEQUEL!!! I hate square, if they went bankrupt and had to pass up all their franchises to other developers I'd probably throw a parade.

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What KH game doesn't have an unnecessary plot?

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#8 johny300
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They need to realese FF VS XIII and KH3 then i'll forgive them for those horrible games they realesed.
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#9 heretrix
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Good. That saves me from having to actually tell them.What the hell are they doing and why does everything the do suck lately?

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#10 Zanoh
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I hate them because they take a great game, like KH, make a sequel with an unnecessary plot, then make 30 spin offs rather than making an actual SEQUEL!!!RandomWinner

Erm. Birth by sleep is a good prequel and the only spinoff you should care about is Chain of Memories.

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#11 110million
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I trust nomura, is he is handling most of the upcoming projects. The rest of SE has almost lost all of my trust. :|
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I trust nomura, is he is handling most of the upcoming projects. The rest of SE has almost lost all of my trust. :|110million
lets hope he doesnt goof up
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#13 Chubith
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I stopped hating them after I realised that they will never reclaim the glory of the old days simply due to nostalgia. FFXIII was alright, but such a disappointment. I would love a classic square soft rpg, too bad square soft doesn't exist anymore.

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Well, as long as they know :)

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#15 dercoo
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Just release KH3 on HD consoles already dang it!!!!!

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#16 johny300
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Tatsuya momoura is just milking KH series, for gods sake give me KH3.
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I trust nomura, is he is handling most of the upcoming projects. The rest of SE has almost lost all of my trust. :|110million

Nomura isn't really "handling" T3B or Agito.

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#18 RandomWinner
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[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

I hate them because they take a great game, like KH, make a sequel with an unnecessary plot, then make 30 spin offs rather than making an actual SEQUEL!!! I hate square, if they went bankrupt and had to pass up all their franchises to other developers I'd probably throw a parade.

hakanakumono

What KH game doesn't have an unnecessary plot?

Everything after the first. The first was great, but can anybody say that they cared about Roxas at all and were happy with the start? I got over played the game, and enjoyed it. Then I started waiting for a sequel on the PS3 (or 360) but they won't deliver. I wish that 1. They kept it simple and 2. They'd at least announce KH3 before GT5 came out. It's milking at its finest.

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#19 lazerface216
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i want to see parasite eve and kingdom hearts on the ps3, not the psp.

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#20 hakanakumono
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i want to see parasite eve and kingdom hearts on the ps3, not the psp.

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It's going to happen, but they can't justify creating a PS3 game from the get go. PE has always been associated with extremely high graphics (which is why T3B looks so good) and it's been 10 years since they've released anything PE. Costs have risen exponentially and they're going to test the waters first. But they're talking as if a PS3 title is assured.

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#21 Kashiwaba
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SE is OK on handhelds so I'm not worried about the 3rd birthday or Agito but they are sucking a lot lately on Home consoles so i'm worried about their home consoles projects.

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#22 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

i want to see parasite eve and kingdom hearts on the ps3, not the psp.

hakanakumono

It's going to happen, but they can't justify creating a PS3 game from the get go. PE has always been associated with extremely high graphics (which is why T3B looks so good) and it's been 10 years since they've released anything PE. Costs have risen exponentially and they're going to test the waters first. But they're talking as if a PS3 title is assured.

i hope you're right.

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#23 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

i want to see parasite eve and kingdom hearts on the ps3, not the psp.

lazerface216

It's going to happen, but they can't justify creating a PS3 game from the get go. PE has always been associated with extremely high graphics (which is why T3B looks so good) and it's been 10 years since they've released anything PE. Costs have risen exponentially and they're going to test the waters first. But they're talking as if a PS3 title is assured.

i hope you're right.

The level of transparency and enthusiasm regarding T3B and the "rebirth of the PE IP" has been ridiculously high. So I'm optimistic.

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#24 johny300
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Is the 3rd birthday a sequal to parasite eve 2?
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They ever get around to releasing the games they've been talking about for years and they'll start feeling the love again from a lot of gamers...

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#26 johny300
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I remember the girl with the glasses in PE2 ewww lol.
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#27 SilverChimera
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They dun goof'd. The mighty have fallen. Say whatever you want. At the end of the day, SE need to step their game up.
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Is the 3rd birthday a sequal to parasite eve 2?johny300

It's the sequel to the PE series as a continuation of Aya's story, but not as a continuation of the mitochondria story. In a way T3B is a sequel to PE2 specifically because it deals with Kyle and Eve (#2). It's supposed to be the first in a number of new PE titles.

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square is just wayyyyyy too lazy IMO...also they never listen to the fans, and always throw excuses about how their latest games have not sucked...pls almost every person who played FFXIII hated the game or didnt thought it was close to the FF standards, and what did square do? they just said "oh, its a great game, they just received the game with too much a western standards lulz" yeah that must be the problem!...we received the game with western standards...so thats why we also thought that games like FFVII, VIII, IX and X sucked... if they want to earn my trust back...they should just stop being lazy and support more consoles with GOOD games...a FFVIII remake would be awesome to see..with voice acting and all that crap...they already have the engine so it wouldnt take much to develop and it would sell faster than cinnamon rolls...or at least bring dissidia to the PS3...come on, its a FIGHTING game! one of the easiest (if not THE easiest) genre to develop
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#30 caryslan2
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Enix and Taito are the only parts of Square Enix that I care about anymore. I really don't care what happens to Square anymore.

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They ever get around to releasing the games they've been talking about for years and they'll start feeling the love again from a lot of gamers...

santoron

T3B - Early next year

FFXIII Versus - Probably early 2012

FFXIII Agito - Earlier than Versus

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#32 johny300
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[QUOTE="johny300"]Is the 3rd birthday a sequal to parasite eve 2?hakanakumono

It's the sequel to the PE series as a continuation of Aya's story, but not as a continuation of the mitochondria story. In a way T3B is a sequel to PE2 specifically because it deals with Kyle and Eve (#2). It's supposed to be the first in a number of new PE titles.

Thanks i'll get it when it's realesed :).
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square is just wayyyyyy too lazy IMO...also they never listen to the fans, and always throw excuses about how their latest games have not sucked...pls almost every person who played FFXIII hated the game or didnt thought it was close to the FF standards, and what did square do? they just said "oh, its a great game, they just received the game with too much a western standards lulz" yeah that must be the problem!...we received the game with western standards...so thats why we also thought that games like FFVII, VIII, IX and X sucked... if they want to earn my trust back...they should just stop being lazy and support more consoles with GOOD games...a FFVIII remake would be awesome to see..with voice acting and all that crap...they already have the engine so it wouldnt take much to develop and it would sell faster than cinnamon rolls...or at least bring dissidia to the PS3...come on, its a FIGHTING game! one of the easiest (if not THE easiest) genre to developlightleggy

They actually explained that with FFXIII the development of the engine absorbed all their time and resources and took them a lot longer than it they anticipated, and they didn't succeed in creating what they wanted. Because their projects relied on the engine, they were at a standstill and by the time FFXIII statrted production time and money limitations forced them to prioritize what they felt was the most important in favor of passing on th very things people would complain about once it was released.

Which is part of why we saw nothing but shots of FMV for quite some time.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]square is just wayyyyyy too lazy IMO...also they never listen to the fans, and always throw excuses about how their latest games have not sucked...pls almost every person who played FFXIII hated the game or didnt thought it was close to the FF standards, and what did square do? they just said "oh, its a great game, they just received the game with too much a western standards lulz" yeah that must be the problem!...we received the game with western standards...so thats why we also thought that games like FFVII, VIII, IX and X sucked... if they want to earn my trust back...they should just stop being lazy and support more consoles with GOOD games...a FFVIII remake would be awesome to see..with voice acting and all that crap...they already have the engine so it wouldnt take much to develop and it would sell faster than cinnamon rolls...or at least bring dissidia to the PS3...come on, its a FIGHTING game! one of the easiest (if not THE easiest) genre to develophakanakumono

They actually explained that with FFXIII the development of the engine absorbed all their time and resources and took them a lot longer than it they anticipated, and they didn't succeed in creating what they wanted. Because their projects relied on the engine, they were at a standstill and by the time FFXIII statrted production time and money limitations forced them to prioritize what they felt was the most important in favor of passing on th very things people would complain about once it was released.

Which is part of why we saw nothing but shots of FMV for quite some time.

I know....but my point is that they tried to justify the fact that the game sucked with "oh its because you guys met the game with western POV but the game is actually great it was definitly worth the 4 or 5 years that you waited since the first announcement until its release"
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#35 jasonharris48
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I do not hate Square I'm just very disappointed with them this gen.

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]square is just wayyyyyy too lazy IMO...also they never listen to the fans, and always throw excuses about how their latest games have not sucked...pls almost every person who played FFXIII hated the game or didnt thought it was close to the FF standards, and what did square do? they just said "oh, its a great game, they just received the game with too much a western standards lulz" yeah that must be the problem!...we received the game with western standards...so thats why we also thought that games like FFVII, VIII, IX and X sucked... if they want to earn my trust back...they should just stop being lazy and support more consoles with GOOD games...a FFVIII remake would be awesome to see..with voice acting and all that crap...they already have the engine so it wouldnt take much to develop and it would sell faster than cinnamon rolls...or at least bring dissidia to the PS3...come on, its a FIGHTING game! one of the easiest (if not THE easiest) genre to developlightleggy

They actually explained that with FFXIII the development of the engine absorbed all their time and resources and took them a lot longer than it they anticipated, and they didn't succeed in creating what they wanted. Because their projects relied on the engine, they were at a standstill and by the time FFXIII statrted production time and money limitations forced them to prioritize what they felt was the most important in favor of passing on th very things people would complain about once it was released.

Which is part of why we saw nothing but shots of FMV for quite some time.

I know....but my point is that they tried to justify the fact that the game sucked with "oh its because you guys met the game with western POV but the game is actually great it was definitly worth the 4 or 5 years that you waited since the first announcement until its release"

Well, Square said that they didn't feel that they could "create an open world game like western developers and still tell a story," but I don't think they referenced this afterwards. I know they said something, but I don't think it was this.

Which was a misinterpretation of western expectations to some degree. They're just generally very confused about the whole linearity thing.

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#37 LovePotionNo9
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My faith in Square has lessened with each generation since the PS1 days. I don't know if it's possible for them to recover in my eyes; although, I do think their handhelds games are much better than their console games and definitely worth looking into. But they don't seem as strong as their past titles.

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third Birthday looks great enough for me to have an urge to play first two Parasite Eve games to just see what the whole shebang is about.
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#39 SpinoRaptor24
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I wish they would just release KH3 and TWEWY 2 instead of making all these spinoffs and remakes.

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#40 hakanakumono
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third Birthday looks great enough for me to have an urge to play first two Parasite Eve games to just see what the whole shebang is about.funsohng

Chances are you'll get to before it comes out. Especially if you have access to the JP PSN, which already has them on it. But idk if you speak Japanese.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

They actually explained that with FFXIII the development of the engine absorbed all their time and resources and took them a lot longer than it they anticipated, and they didn't succeed in creating what they wanted. Because their projects relied on the engine, they were at a standstill and by the time FFXIII statrted production time and money limitations forced them to prioritize what they felt was the most important in favor of passing on th very things people would complain about once it was released.

Which is part of why we saw nothing but shots of FMV for quite some time.

hakanakumono

I know....but my point is that they tried to justify the fact that the game sucked with "oh its because you guys met the game with western POV but the game is actually great it was definitly worth the 4 or 5 years that you waited since the first announcement until its release"

Well, Square said that they didn't feel that they could "create an open world game like western developers and still tell a story," but I don't think they referenced this afterwards. I know they said something, but I don't think it was this.

Which was a misinterpretation of western expectations to some degree. They're just generally very confused about the whole linearity thing.

but fans were not asking for some open world game like shadow of the colossus or fallout or stalker...they were asking for a regular final fantasy...where you could travel through the world map/use an airship to move also, the western thing they said is bs...we received FF13 expecting it to be as good as the previous tittles have been...and if the other tittles have not had a problem with that, then why FF13 did? let me answer you: because the game actually sucks
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#42 HaLoMaStErJT
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I don't hate them, but I am somewhat disappointed in some of their games.

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#43 thom_maytees
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Even though some here will hate Equare-Enix, but a new character for the upcoming new Final Fantasy: Dissidia 012 has been revealed.

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Even though some here will hate Equare-Enix, but a new character for the upcoming new Final Fantasy: Dissidia 012 has been revealed.

thom_maytees

You just gave me another reason to be disappointed in Square lol. Out of all the male characters in FFXII they picked Vaan?

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#45 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="thom_maytees"]

Even though some here will hate Equare-Enix, but a new character for the upcoming new Final Fantasy: Dissidia 012 has been revealed.

jasonharris48

You just gave me another reason to be disappointed in Square lol. Out of all the male characters in FFXII they picked Vaan?

oh dear...I dont feel any regret for not playing FFXII after remembering that the main char looks extremely...ehm...disgusting to say the least
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#46 Arach666
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[QUOTE="thom_maytees"]

Even though some here will hate Equare-Enix, but a new character for the upcoming new Final Fantasy: Dissidia 012 has been revealed.

jasonharris48

You just gave me another reason to be disappointed in Square lol. Out of all the male characters in FFXII they picked Vaan?

Damn,that´s the worst possible choice...

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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="thom_maytees"]

Even though some here will hate Equare-Enix, but a new character for the upcoming new Final Fantasy: Dissidia 012 has been revealed.

lightleggy

You just gave me another reason to be disappointed in Square lol. Out of all the male characters in FFXII they picked Vaan?

oh dear...I dont feel any regret for not playing FFXII after remembering that the main char looks extremely...ehm...disgusting to say the least

I loved FFXII for the most part. But I hated Vaan and Penelo, they were such awful characters.

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[QUOTE="thom_maytees"]

Even though some here will hate Equare-Enix, but a new character for the upcoming new Final Fantasy: Dissidia 012 has been revealed.

jasonharris48

You just gave me another reason to be disappointed in Square lol. Out of all the male characters in FFXII they picked Vaan?

Should have been Ashe. I don't have a problem with Vaan though. Except for upside down abs.

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#49 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] You just gave me another reason to be disappointed in Square lol. Out of all the male characters in FFXII they picked Vaan?

jasonharris48

oh dear...I dont feel any regret for not playing FFXII after remembering that the main char looks extremely...ehm...disgusting to say the least

I loved FFXII for the most part. But I hated Vaan and Penelo, they were such awful characters.

They were barely there enough for me to have something to base my hate on.

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#50 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="thom_maytees"]

Even though some here will hate Equare-Enix, but a new character for the upcoming new Final Fantasy: Dissidia 012 has been revealed.

hakanakumono

You just gave me another reason to be disappointed in Square lol. Out of all the male characters in FFXII they picked Vaan?

Should have been Ashe. I don't have a problem with Vaan though. Except for upside down abs.

I was hoping for Ashe or Basch.