Sony: Just plain arrogant or purely smart?

I'm just wondering what people think of these words from Sony's Phil Harrison in an IGN interview about GTAIV and losing its exlusivity. He seems very confident (or maybe it's just arrogance?).



"He stressed that third-party exclusives would come in good time. The newly-announced PlayStation Edge toolset is expected to help ease development for PS3, particularly for cross-platform titles. Titles using PS Edge could come as early as this fall, because the tools are "simple to implement."

"I don't think PS3 has the install base to support Rockstar's investment in GTA IV on its own," Harrison told the assembled bloggers. The first next-gen Grand Theft Auto game likely cost Rockstar considerable money and development time. That being such, it couldn't have sold enough copies on PS3 alone to make exclusivity worthwhile. In the future, as the number of PS3s in homes grows, it should become easier to nab major exclusives.



When I read this I was a little surprised at the very realistic/true response about GTAIV coming from Phil who's known to have lied many times in the past.

His attitude is quite level-headed and it seems as if he's lost a little bit of the arrogance Sony has but then he goes and says that 3rd party exclusives will come because he implied PS3 will eventually sell much more than 360.

Do you think that's being arrogant/over confident or will Sony manage to get these exclusives?

In the PS1 gen they started just with MGS, GT and FF and ended up getting pretty much every major exclusive (despite Nintendo's dominance in the market before the PS1). In the PS2 gen they started with GTA, GT, MGS and FF and ended up getting every major exclusive in the end again (Even now we're seeing GTA:LCS/VCS only on PS2 and not Xbox/GC).

Do you think FF/GT/MGS and a few others will be enough or is Sony just being arrogant?
the-very-best

I like how he avoided mentioning the real reason they lost GTAIV.Ptolemaueus

I'm just wondering what people think of these words from Sony's Phil Harrison in an IGN interview about GTAIV and losing its exlusivity. He seems very confident (or maybe it's just arrogance?).


"He stressed that third-party exclusives would come in good time. The newly-announced PlayStation Edge toolset is expected to help ease development for PS3, particularly for cross-platform titles. Titles using PS Edge could come as early as this fall, because the tools are "simple to implement."

"I don't think PS3 has the install base to support Rockstar's investment in GTA IV on its own," Harrison told the assembled bloggers. The first next-gen Grand Theft Auto game likely cost Rockstar considerable money and development time. That being such, it couldn't have sold enough copies on PS3 alone to make exclusivity worthwhile. In the future, as the number of PS3s in homes grows, it should become easier to nab major exclusives.

Phil on IGN.

When I read this I was a little surprised at the very realistic/true response about GTAIV coming from Phil who's known to have lied many times in the past. His attitude is quite level-headed and it seems as if he's lost a little bit of the arrogance Sony has but then he goes and says that 3rd party exclusives will come because he implied PS3 will eventually sell much more than 360.

In the PS1 gen they started just with MGS, GT and FF and ended up getting pretty much every major exclusive (despite Nintendo's dominance in the market before the PS1). In the PS2 gen they started with GTA, GT, MGS and FF and ended up getting every major exclusive in the end again (Even now we're seeing GTA:LCS/VCS only on PS2 and not Xbox/GC).

Do you think FF/GT/MGS and a few others will be enough or is Sony just being arrogant?
the-very-best

SW thinks LOGIC = ARROGANCE.

SW is sad at times.

I'm just wondering what people think of these words from Sony's Phil Harrison in an IGN interview about GTAIV and losing its exlusivity. He seems very confident (or maybe it's just arrogance?).



"He stressed that third-party exclusives would come in good time. The newly-announced PlayStation Edge toolset is expected to help ease development for PS3, particularly for cross-platform titles. Titles using PS Edge could come as early as this fall, because the tools are "simple to implement."

"I don't think PS3 has the install base to support Rockstar's investment in GTA IV on its own," Harrison told the assembled bloggers. The first next-gen Grand Theft Auto game likely cost Rockstar considerable money and development time. That being such, it couldn't have sold enough copies on PS3 alone to make exclusivity worthwhile. In the future, as the number of PS3s in homes grows, it should become easier to nab major exclusives.



When I read this I was a little surprised at the very realistic/true response about GTAIV coming from Phil who's known to have lied many times in the past.

His attitude is quite level-headed and it seems as if he's lost a little bit of the arrogance Sony has but then he goes and says that 3rd party exclusives will come because he implied PS3 will eventually sell much more than 360.

Do you think that's being arrogant/over confident or will Sony manage to get these exclusives?

In the PS1 gen they started just with MGS, GT and FF and ended up getting pretty much every major exclusive (despite Nintendo's dominance in the market before the PS1). In the PS2 gen they started with GTA, GT, MGS and FF and ended up getting every major exclusive in the end again (Even now we're seeing GTA:LCS/VCS only on PS2 and not Xbox/GC).

Do you think FF/GT/MGS and a few others will be enough or is Sony just being arrogant?
the-very-best

Seems pretty humble to me. At least he didn't say that third party exclusives come when we say they do. Perhaps they've realized the media hates them lately.DrHyde

SW thinks LOGIC = ARROGANCE.

SW is sad at times.

XTy

[QUOTE="Ptolemaueus"]I like how he avoided mentioning the real reason they lost GTAIV.the-very-best

Sony was too slow.  I believe someone at Rockstar may have said that, but I'm not entirely sure.

In the future, as the number of PS3s in homes grows, it should become easier to nab major exclusives.

the-very-best

They hope.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="Ptolemaueus"]I like how he avoided mentioning the real reason they lost GTAIV.Ptolemaueus

Sony was too slow. I believe someone at Rockstar may have said that, but I'm not entirely sure.

[QUOTE="XTy"]

SW thinks LOGIC = ARROGANCE.

SW is sad at times.

the-very-best

The Fanboys are still doing their homework, or are still in school. Wait till tonight when they put down the crayolas to post here.

YOull see.

Remember that Phil's job is to spin, just like that other goober, Moore from MS and that goofball reggie from Nintendo.  It's not like they are going to admit that something isn't going well.sonicare

But doesn't kicking ass and taking names count for something?  Reggie should at the least be head goofball.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"] In the future, as the number of PS3s in homes grows, it should become easier to nab major exclusives.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

They hope.

[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

[QUOTE="the-very-best"] In the future, as the number of PS3s in homes grows, it should become easier to nab major exclusives.

the-very-best

They hope.

I didn't say it was silly, but it seems that they are still thinking that they will go from PS3s on the shelves very soon after launch, to selling enough consoles so that the PS3 is more attractive to developers than the 360 or Wii, despite  that developing on the system is apparently a pain. MGS and FF can't do that by themselves.

Whatever makes you happy. How does this effect the PS3?youngtongue

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]I'm just wondering what people think of these words from Sony's Phil Harrison in an IGN interview about GTAIV and losing its exlusivity. He seems very confident (or maybe it's just arrogance?).



"He stressed that third-party exclusives would come in good time. The newly-announced PlayStation Edge toolset is expected to help ease development for PS3, particularly for cross-platform titles. Titles using PS Edge could come as early as this fall, because the tools are "simple to implement."

"I don't think PS3 has the install base to support Rockstar's investment in GTA IV on its own," Harrison told the assembled bloggers. The first next-gen Grand Theft Auto game likely cost Rockstar considerable money and development time. That being such, it couldn't have sold enough copies on PS3 alone to make exclusivity worthwhile. In the future, as the number of PS3s in homes grows, it should become easier to nab major exclusives.



When I read this I was a little surprised at the very realistic/true response about GTAIV coming from Phil who's known to have lied many times in the past.

His attitude is quite level-headed and it seems as if he's lost a little bit of the arrogance Sony has but then he goes and says that 3rd party exclusives will come because he implied PS3 will eventually sell much more than 360.

Do you think that's being arrogant/over confident or will Sony manage to get these exclusives?

In the PS1 gen they started just with MGS, GT and FF and ended up getting pretty much every major exclusive (despite Nintendo's dominance in the market before the PS1). In the PS2 gen they started with GTA, GT, MGS and FF and ended up getting every major exclusive in the end again (Even now we're seeing GTA:LCS/VCS only on PS2 and not Xbox/GC).

Do you think FF/GT/MGS and a few others will be enough or is Sony just being arrogant?
gsx1100

Phil Harrison is arrogant, and his interviews almost always suck. He spends way too much time staying on message and dodging questions..Reggie too...I can't stand when either of them do an interview..Peter Moore seems to come off a bit more casual and friendly than both of them...And for the record, J. Allard sucked too. It was a good move for MS to have Peter step in.heretrix

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Phil Harrison is arrogant, and his interviews almost always suck. He spends way too much time staying on message and dodging questions..Reggie too...I can't stand when either of them do an interview..Peter Moore seems to come off a bit more casual and friendly than both of them...And for the record, J. Allard sucked too. It was a good move for MS to have Peter step in.Dualshockin

I would guess that Rockstar expected a ton of compensation this time considering what both the userbases at the time would be at the time of the GTA IV release. It probably put Sony in a very tough spot and they had to make a tough decision. Hopefully , Bully can grow a bit and they can make a deal there for the next one. L.A.Noire might still be up for grabs(not sure) as a timed game. Those would cost Sony a considerably less money to aquire and it would give the playstation3 its own flavor.
Nike_Air

I believe this gen is their strongest competition. N64 was nothing, and Dreamcast was nothing (it was sweet to me though), GC was a joke (to the masses), and Ms was just getting started. This gen is the first to see three arguably strong consoles that have video games more popular then ever. Sony has to learn to fight for something for once.immortality20

That's an excellent point Phil made.
The Ps3 is made to last atleast 7 years,Sony know that in 7 years they'll have buckets of exclusives,improved graphics,cheaper price,and a much bigger installbase.
Snatching GTA 4 as an exclusive right now wouldnt be a good move for Sony and Rockstar,as the Ps3 hasnt sold 10's of millions of units yet,and the only thing that is holding back Ps3 sales is the 600$ price tag.

Dualshockin

[QUOTE="XTy"]

SW thinks LOGIC = ARROGANCE.

SW is sad at times.

the-very-best

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="XTy"]

SW thinks LOGIC = ARROGANCE.

SW is sad at times.

elpoep

[QUOTE="immortality20"]I believe this gen is their strongest competition. N64 was nothing, and Dreamcast was nothing (it was sweet to me though), GC was a joke (to the masses), and Ms was just getting started. This gen is the first to see three arguably strong consoles that have video games more popular then ever. Sony has to learn to fight for something for once.the-very-best

I'm just wondering what people think of these words from Sony's Phil Harrison in an IGN interview about GTAIV and losing its exlusivity. He seems very confident (or maybe it's just arrogance?).

"He stressed that third-party exclusives would come in good time. The newly-announced PlayStation Edge toolset is expected to help ease development for PS3, particularly for cross-platform titles. Titles using PS Edge could come as early as this fall, because the tools are "simple to implement."

"I don't think PS3 has the install base to support Rockstar's investment in GTA IV on its own," Harrison told the assembled bloggers. The first next-gen Grand Theft Auto game likely cost Rockstar considerable money and development time. That being such, it couldn't have sold enough copies on PS3 alone to make exclusivity worthwhile. In the future, as the number of PS3s in homes grows, it should become easier to nab major exclusives.

Phil on IGN.

In the PS1 gen they started just with MGS, GT and FF and ended up getting pretty much every major exclusive (despite Nintendo's dominance in the market before the PS1). In the PS2 gen they started with GTA, GT, MGS and FF and ended up getting every major exclusive in the end again (Even now we're seeing GTA:LCS/VCS only on PS2 and not Xbox/GC).

I personally think Phil is right on the ball and rather than being arrogant I think it's just confidence. Do you think FF/GT/MGS and a few others will be enough or is Sony just being arrogant?
the-very-best

Wrong-- again. RIP 8/31/08 (end of a contract?)

Wrong-- again. RIP 8/31/08 (end of a contract?)

elpoep

stop bumping old threads :|

[QUOTE="elpoep"]

Wrong-- again. RIP 8/31/08 (end of a contract?)

Giancar

stop bumping old threads :|

When you read throught the history of these threads and the history of system wars-- you can look back and see who was wrong.

The "just wait argument" and "the only thing that is holding Sony back or SNE:

http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=charting&mode=basics&intraday=off&timeframe=18m&charttype=ohlc&splits=off&earnings=off&movingaverage=None&lowerstudy=volume&comparison=off&index=&drilldown=off&symbol=SNE&selected=SNE

Is the $600 price tag, just wait till its $399!!!" and "we have great exclusives like .... and... and... FFXIII and..."

were dead wrong.

Apparently, not that smart: LOOK! Now that's a sinking ship!

I wonder what things will be like after X-mas? I wonder if Sir Howard Stringer will still have his job?

Apparently, not that smart: LOOK! Now that's a sinking ship!

I wonder what things will be like after X-mas? I wonder if Sir Howard Stringer will still have his job?

elpoep

"He stressed that third-party exclusives would come in good time. The newly-announced PlayStation Edge toolset is expected to help ease development for PS3, particularly for cross-platform titles. Titles using PS Edge could come as early as this fall, because the tools are "simple to implement."

"I don't think PS3 has the install base to support Rockstar's investment in GTA IV on its own," Harrison told the assembled bloggers. The first next-gen Grand Theft Auto game likely cost Rockstar considerable money and development time. That being such, it couldn't have sold enough copies on PS3 alone to make exclusivity worthwhile. In the future, as the number of PS3s in homes grows, it should become easier to nab major exclusives.

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Nothing related to arrogancy in there imo. Honest/realistic answers to 2 major questions

Nice find TVB

i think sonys cocky and rude lol,

and arrogant, ever since psp, at least ,

theyll make their exuse as to why they fall behind nintendo , a company of which fell behind just 2 gens earlier,

dont defend microsoft as they never seen the top for a full generation lol, wii over took 360 in less then a year ,

and doesnt look like that ship is stopin any time soon ,

I think it is not arrogant response.

It is logical conclusion that they will get exclusives as the install base becomes bigger.

But the problem is that without good exclusives install base will not grow fast enough.

Also someone from Microsoft could said that.

But at the end primary goal for all is money, not you or me and our satisfaction

Sony deserves what they are getting this gen because they acted like no one could touch them for the last 2 gens. I wonder how they feel now with losing Final Fantasy XIII as a exclusive