Sony is increasing YEARLY PS+ sub prices : 20$ more for Essential, 35$ for Extra and 40$ more for Premium

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#151 Last_Lap
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When you think about it Sony are pretty smart, announce it around the release of Starfield and most cows will be too busy trying to damage control Starfield on social media that this announcement gets lost in the wash up. And if you look at just SW, Starfield's thread is nearly 900 pages long.

Mission complete Sony.

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#152 HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

Have Sony backed down yet?

Didn’t MS back down fairly quickly? And we’re still never hear the end of it.

MS increased the price by 100%. Imagine being this dumb, especially coming from the Xbone days.

Yeah... But MS backed down very quickly. :-S

Sony are properly bending over their fans and putting a PS branded ball gags in their mouths... So I was just asking if they had backed down yet?

Was raising the price of games this gen not enough?

I mean Sony REALLY rewards the fans for their success don't they.

So an expensive console, expensive games, now the cherry on top, expensive subscriptions.

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#153 Pedro  Online
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@HalcyonScarlet: Why pay less when you can pay more?

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#154 pyro1245
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Sony needs a MP Online Only tier.

You're telling me I gotta pay $10 if I just want to play Demon's Souls Remake online for a month?

That's just rude. I have no need for any of the other included crap.

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#155 Pedro  Online
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@pyro1245 said:

Sony needs a MP Online Only tier.

You're telling me I gotta pay $10 if I just want to play Demon's Souls Remake online for a month?

That's just rude. I have no need for any of the other included crap.

Paying to play online needs to die. It is just silly now.

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#156  Edited By pyro1245
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@Pedro: 100%

Sony gets a 30% cut of sales from their store just like all the other major players. The argument that they need to charge to cover cost for the services is nothing but big corpo bootlicking. They don't even host the game servers, just the PSN authentication servers (and if they didn't require a PSN account to play online they wouldn't need to).

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#157 LuxuryHeart
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Sony is off their rocker this generation. I'm so glad I jumped off the Sony bandwagon after the PS4. I'm just going to be chilling on my PC and Switch for this generation. In future generations, I'm locked into PC and Switch. Sony can keep milking their cows for all I care.

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#158 Archangel3371  Online
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This really sucks because I don’t want Microsoft and Nintendo to follow suit but they sure as hell are going to. Cows too worried about Starfield though. Very sad. 😔

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#159  Edited By LuxuryHeart
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@uitravioience said:

What a stupid thing to do. With all the acquisitions Microsoft has been doing, now is not the time to raise prices on the subscriptions, Sony. I don't know if this is a Jim Ryan call but if it is then it's time for him to gtfo.

It's just Sony milking their cows and Jim Ryan being oily. I'm just happy that I didn't lock into the PS5 for this gen. Unfortunately, my brother locked into that shit, but I'll let him have it.

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#160 LuxuryHeart
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@Pedro: meh, sharing numbers is all performative BS anyways. It’s just PR nonsense (in relation to us customers). But the reality for me is that this price is not worth it.

Who knows, maybe if I see a game I like I’ll do the month sub and then cancel after beating it like I do with GamePass.

I don't think companies sharing numbers should be a bad thing. The movie industry is pretty open about their successful products and their flops. Nintendo is also very open. They even reported the flopping numbers for the Wii U, which is massively respectable.

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#161 UItravioIence
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@luxuryheart: pretty much. This is an absolutely stupid move by Sony. I figured they would have walked it back by now but nope.

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@last_lap said:

When you think about it Sony are pretty smart, announce it around the release of Starfield and most cows will be too busy trying to damage control Starfield on social media that this announcement gets lost in the wash up. And if you look at just SW, Starfield's thread is nearly 900 pages long.

Mission complete Sony.

The bad thing is that would make a backtrack less likely

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#163  Edited By Last_Lap
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@super600: If we're being real here. When has Sony's fanbase ever held Sony accountable for anything? Now there was a small blip during the PS3's release, but it still sold around 90 million consoles.

This gen alone they have raised the price of its games, it's consoles (a first for the industry) and now it's subscription services.

And yet there are a few here and there in here calling it BS, and yet post 100 times in the Starfield thread damage controlling that game.

Sony is less a gaming company and more like a cult at this point, in fact its been that way for nearly 2 decades now.

Calling them cows is probably the best name for a fanbase there has ever been, because Sony can milk them dry and they still don't complain.

I'm glad I don't subscribe to any of these services.

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#164  Edited By tjandmia
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Still cheaper than a $1k mid-range gaming laptop or pc over a 5 year period. Extra and Essential.

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#165 robert_sparkes
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Sony put the prices up when the games they are adding are rubbish quality. Bizarre for it to come out now.

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@pyro1245 said:

Sony needs a MP Online Only tier.

You're telling me I gotta pay $10 if I just want to play Demon's Souls Remake online for a month?

That's just rude. I have no need for any of the other included crap.

If I were a Sony customer only, I would stick to buying CDkeys and only buy PS+ cards when they're on sale. PS+ has been $60 for years and I've never once paid the actual full price for them myself as I rarely if ever play any MP on PS4/5. I'll continue to do just that but lucky enough, I only use my PS5 just to play SP exclusives.

And this is why I love PC gaming😎

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#167  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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Going to steam deck and canceling all my subs was the most liberating experience of my gaming year. Nothing was lost whatsoever.

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#168 kitty  Moderator
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They announce this right as I was planning to get a console finally, I guess this is the thing that will keep me away.
Not sure why they think this is a good move, this totally feels like something EA would try to pull off if they had a successful thing like this lol. I really hope they back down before this goes live or they are going to lose a lot of people on the service.

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#169  Edited By hardwenzen
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@kitty said:

They announce this right as I was planning to get a console finally, I guess this is the thing that will keep me away.

Not sure why they think this is a good move, this totally feels like something EA would try to pull off if they had a successful thing like this lol. I really hope they back down before this goes live or they are going to lose a lot of people on the service.

If you own a pc, why would you bother playing multiplayer on the ps5? And its not like there's any multiplayer exclusives either. Unless you play everything on one console, the price of a sub service shouldn't be a reason to skip a ps5.

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#170 R4gn4r0k
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@kitty said:

They announce this right as I was planning to get a console finally, I guess this is the thing that will keep me away.

Not sure why they think this is a good move, this totally feels like something EA would try to pull off if they had a successful thing like this lol. I really hope they back down before this goes live or they are going to lose a lot of people on the service.

Some good news to come out of this.

It's way better to focus on PC gaming. And complement that with a retro device or older consoles that don't rely on online passes to access half of your game.

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#171  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@TheEroica said:

Going to steam deck and canceling all my subs was the most liberating experience of my gaming year. Nothing was lost whatsoever.

Steam deck plus high end PC gaming ftw.

Steam deck for all my older games. If you are looking for a recommendation to play on the SD, I sugges looking into Binary Domain, it's a whole heap of fun.

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@TheEroica said:

Going to steam deck and canceling all my subs was the most liberating experience of my gaming year. Nothing was lost whatsoever.

Cancelling subs is a good idea, playing on a Steam deck with crappy battery life and a small screen is gaming in reverse.

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#173  Edited By Maroxad
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Post COVID inflation strikes again.

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#174  Edited By Ibacai
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@luxuryheart: using the movie industry here is not helping your argument. “Hollywood Accounting” is known for a million scummy practices.

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#175 Willy105
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@last_lap: I’d argue playing in bed with a personal screen that doesn’t take up the living room for something else is a pretty good thing to have.

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#176 TheEroica  Moderator
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@last_lap said:
@TheEroica said:

Going to steam deck and canceling all my subs was the most liberating experience of my gaming year. Nothing was lost whatsoever.

Cancelling subs is a good idea, playing on a Steam deck with crappy battery life and a small screen is gaming in reverse.

You haven't booted up God of war, or elden ring on a flight yet or you don't travel much, so I don't doubt you're wondering why the appeal... I actually won't be buying a PS5 or Xbox because their means of gaming is inferior to my lifestyle.

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@TheEroica said:

You haven't booted up God of war, or elden ring on a flight yet or you don't travel much, so I don't doubt you're wondering why the appeal... I actually won't be buying a PS5 or Xbox because their means of gaming is inferior to my lifestyle.

This the internet. If you don't enjoy gaming the way I do, then you are doing it wrong.😂

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#178 adrian1480
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I guess that service is dead to me.

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#179  Edited By Last_Lap
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@TheEroica: I'd it fits your lifestyle then more power to you, I looked into getting one for my son as he wants to play beamng (I think that's right) but they are over a grand here and for the size of the screen and battery life, I just couldn't justify the purchase.

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#180 Last_Lap
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@Pedro: This is the internet and if you have a different opinion on something then others will say "if you don't enjoy the way I game you're doing it wrong"

Those people are just looking for attention 🙄

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#181 mariokart64fan
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That's messed up I will never shell out 79.99 to play multi-player when my n64 has thar for free and I'd rather pay 50 for switch online or the 60 for xbl

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#182  Edited By super600  Moderator
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I just saw how much each PS+ tier costs now in Canada and it's not as bad as I expected but it still a bit on the high side. Essential is $94.99+maybe tax depending on which province you live in and premium is $189.99+maybe tax depending on where you live.

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#183 hardwenzen
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I saw some people saying that at this price, even the Switch online is a better value. Are people high? Sony's psn might be incredibly overpriced for what you're getting, but the Switch online is like paying to play online on a Sega Dreamcast in 1999🤣The fact the they're charging money, ANY amount, is insulting. So lets not cope to that extent...

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@hardwenzen said:

I saw some people saying that at this price, even the Switch online is a better value. Are people high? Sony's psn might be incredibly overpriced for what you're getting, but the Switch online is like paying to play online on a Sega Dreamcast in 1999🤣The fact the they're charging money, ANY amount, is insulting. So lets not cope to that extent...

Indeed. In the end, paying for online play should have NEVER become a thing.

TBH, this is the kind of thing that can make my PS5 my last PlayStation product. I already barely use the thing but when I do I expect to play online. If that's going to be more expensive while also being something I rarely enjoy, I mine as well stop buying the products entirely.

My PC is a better gaming experience anyway. Free online, no input device restrictions (I can play my games with whatever controller from whatever brand I want), no framerate restrictions, no resolution restrictions, no strange bespoke storage solutions, no worry about having to rebuy new controllers every new generation just because.

The value proposition and gap between investing in PC and consoles just continues to grow.

If you all don't have a decent gaming PC yet (and you have the resources to be able to afford to build one), then I don't understand what you're doing.

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#185 anon_fire
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Look up the prices for Australia and New Zealand. That right there is insanity.