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#1 finalstar2007
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With the massive success that Shenmue 3 has received at Kickstarter ( entering records for being the fastest funded game on kickstarter) looks like that was just the start for Sony and are interested in bringing a lot of games to live if fans want to.

I just cant!! sony is doing is all the amazing things this generation!!!

Dark Cloud 3 please??

Suikoden??

Beyond Good And Evil 2??

it could ALL Happen!!

In an interview with Engadget, Sony's Shuhei Yoshida discussed how the announcement of Shenmue 3 and its Kickstarter came to take place at Sony's E3 press conference. Shenmue creator Yu Suzuki managed to convince SEGA to allow the project to be Kickstarted. Because Sony liked the project, their third-party relations team made the deal to launch the Kickstarter at the conference. Engadget then asked if there are any more cult titles Sony plans to help with crowdfunding. A PR representative responded, saying that "they're building a list."

http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/17/an-intimate-chat-with-sony-playstation-shuhei-yoshida/

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065863

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#3 mems_1224
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so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

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#4 freedomfreak
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Build the list. Then pay for it.

But hey, if cool shit comes out of this, all the better. I ain't paying a dime tho.

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#5 NyaDC
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This sounds like what Valve is trying to do with their games, they eventually don't even want to create content for their games anymore, they want the community to create everything and sell it with Valve getting an absurd cut from the profits.

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#6 MlauTheDaft
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@mems_1224 said:

so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

More like they're gauging the market and building hype for risky titles. Shenmue 3 won't be made on the Kickstarter budget alone.

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#7  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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We'll fund the game................................................after you payed for it.

thanks sony

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#8 MirkoS77
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Present me the list Sony and provide reputable names behind them.

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#9  Edited By mems_1224
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@MlauTheDaft said:
@mems_1224 said:

so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

More like they're gauging the market and building hype for risky titles. Shenmue 3 won't be made on the Kickstarter budget alone.

Sony is a major publisher and console maker. they should not be using kickstarter for anything. period. If MS asked for $2 million to make the next Age of Empires game the internet would burn their HQ down. Same if Nintendo asked for money to make a new Metroid Prime.

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#10 Epak_
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We probably wouldn't be getting Shenmue 3 without kickstarter, I like this idea.

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#11  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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@mems_1224: I agree thtat it's kind of weak, but I'm happy to see Shenmue 3 get made and it's pretty clear that the game was never going to be made through traditional means. I expect Sony wanted Yo Suzuki to prove that there was still interest. Publishers don't tend to have faith in the opinion of enthusiastic fans on fora.

Edit: Was'nt Mighty Number 9 the same thing? Or was it that new Castlevania "clone"?

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#12  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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Shoot, why not, its less money Sony has to spend. And with the money problems they are having now, it would be smart to ask for help.

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#13 Ghost120x
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I don't mind paying for a game that I want as long as it's good and lives up to the hype. Consider Sony a contract worker for the fans. We call the shots and they do the legwork and they get paid.

If they put Dark Cloud 3 on there and I see they have a talented staff with a good video of what the game will be like then I'm down to put money on it. They should only use this for older fan service Ips. As for new or current Ips they should be using their own money.

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@sts106mat said:

hahaha fucking golden

@mems_1224 said:

so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

@deadline-zero0 said:

We'll fund the game................................................after you payed for it.

thanks sony

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#15  Edited By finalstar2007
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@sts106mat said:

hahaha fucking golden

@mems_1224 said:

so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

@deadline-zero0 said:

We'll fund the game................................................after you payed for it.

thanks sony

You guys do realize this is a brilliant idea right??

Now the games we all want have a chance to come out, the sequels we all want have a chance to live by proving to them that there is a fanbase around. It helps the company decide which games get developed thanks to the fans/gamers rather than having shareholders decide which games we need to play.

This reduces risk.

btw you guys dont think gamers will actually pay the entire game development right? dont tell me you think shenmue 3 actually costs 2 million to develop? if so then lmfao

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#16 Salt_The_Fries
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Let's Kickstart a project for @finalstar2007 to stop posting.

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#17  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@finalstar2007: I think its a genius ideal, its proves that we dont need Sony at all. All they are is a publisher and a weak one at that, they can easily be replace by Kickstarter and a more trustworthy Publisher like Capcom or Activision etc.

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#18 A-new-Guardian
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This is not a bad idea. Only anti Sony and people who don't want to see gamers happy are against this.

Sony isn't exactly in the best state financially right now and the Kickstarter was to see if there is interest. After the success they decided to fund it. You are not getting a Shenmue 3 without Sony so be grateful.

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#19 A-new-Guardian
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@finalstar2007: exactly my friend.

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@Salt_The_Fries said:

Let's Kickstart a project for @finalstar2007 to stop posting.

The butthurt is real with this one lmfao

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#21  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@a-new-guardian: So what will you say when Shenmue goes Multiplat? Thank you Sony for funding my Shenmue 3 PC game.

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#22 Salt_The_Fries
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@finalstar2007 said:
@Salt_The_Fries said:

Let's Kickstart a project for @finalstar2007 to stop posting.

The butthurt is real with this one lmfao

I'd give you $100 day one.

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@mesome713: you think I care if it goes to other systems?

I'm just glad we're finally getting it thanks to Sony.

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#24  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@finalstar2007: That's fine, but disclosing these deals before the crowdfiunding is important. And why is the campaign still going then?

This should be kept out of KS. NOw console hype infected tactics where, unless you have big marketing, smaller projects like Umbra will have a hard time competing.

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#25  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@a-new-guardian: You should, the kickstarter was for PC also. I have to give thanks to the fans who funded the kickstarter, they deserve all the attention, thank you Kickstarters for funding Shenmue 3 for PC, we couldnt have done it without yall.

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#26 A-new-Guardian
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@mesome713: and that's great. More gamers to enjoy a game long awaited.

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@mems_1224 said:

so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

This

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#29  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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One guy does something good, others start to abuse the service... Game industry in a nutshell. Why don't they fund these projects themselves? Seems like they want us to take care of everything and take all the credit for themselves.

Kickstarter was made for independent studios, not big corporations that are capable of funding games... Seems like everyone wants to make money these days without taking any risks or hardly doing any work. Pathetic.

And it's funny that some people say "Lol kickstarter games" but as soon as it's Sony "Brilliant idea". But I'm not surprised by this hypocrisy.

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#30 Shibua
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Sony can't afford to make games now, they need a kickstarter

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So.. Sony likes to not pay for games to be made. And wants us to pay for that instead. Have fun with that Sony, but I'll be giving money to a real gaming company instead.

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@Cloud_imperium said:

One guy does something good, others start to abuse the service... Game industry in a nutshell. Why don't they fund these projects themselves? Seems like they want us to take care of everything and take all the credit for themselves.

Kickstarter was made for independent studios, not big corporations that are capable of funding games... Seems like everyone wants to make money these days without taking any risks or hardly doing any work. Pathetic.

And it's funny that some people say "Lol kickstarter games" but as soon as it's Sony "Brilliant idea". But I'm not surprised by this hypocrisy.

QFT.

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I think it's great that Sony is using their influence to help fund these games. It's not like they are doing it to fund any games, these are some of the most talked about titles (Shenmue) to some gamers. I tip my hat to them and I hope these games turn out well .

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ITT: Lemmings who haven't had an exclusive yet

..trying to downplay PS4 getting even more games.

Welcome to June of 2015 everybody.

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#35  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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What if this $2m was to cover moneyhatting to keep it off Xbox One?

Do you know what implications this will have for the future?

Besides, what if this leads to any random publisher with some reputation endorsing a Kickstarter for more urban legend type of games. JUST BECAUSE? And then it's not certain when and if the game would get finished anyway?

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@finalstar2007 said:
@sts106mat said:

hahaha fucking golden

@mems_1224 said:

so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

@deadline-zero0 said:

We'll fund the game................................................after you payed for it.

thanks sony

You guys do realize this is a brilliant idea right??

For Sony it is.

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@mems_1224 said:
@MlauTheDaft said:
@mems_1224 said:

so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

More like they're gauging the market and building hype for risky titles. Shenmue 3 won't be made on the Kickstarter budget alone.

Sony is a major publisher and console maker. they should not be using kickstarter for anything. period. If MS asked for $2 million to make the next Age of Empires game the internet would burn their HQ down. Same if Nintendo asked for money to make a new Metroid Prime.

Shenmue 3 is a different case. Very expensive game that didn't actually sell enough. So if this gets Shenmue 3 made all the better. It wouldn't get off the ground without it. But since the interest is obviously there......the game can now be made. Win for all.

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@mesome713 said:

I think its a genius ideal, its proves that we dont need Sony at all. All they are is a publisher and a weak one at that, they can easily be replace by Kickstarter and a more trustworthy Publisher like Capcom or Activision etc.

@mesome713 said:

they can easily be replace by Kickstarter and a more trustworthy Publisher like Capcom or Activision etc.

@mesome713 said:

a more trustworthy Publisher like Capcom or Activision etc.

@mesome713 said:

trustworthy Publisher like Capcom.

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#39  Edited By mems_1224
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@mems_1224 said:
@MlauTheDaft said:
@mems_1224 said:

so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

More like they're gauging the market and building hype for risky titles. Shenmue 3 won't be made on the Kickstarter budget alone.

Sony is a major publisher and console maker. they should not be using kickstarter for anything. period. If MS asked for $2 million to make the next Age of Empires game the internet would burn their HQ down. Same if Nintendo asked for money to make a new Metroid Prime.

Shenmue 3 is a different case. Very expensive game that didn't actually sell enough. So if this gets Shenmue 3 made all the better. It wouldn't get off the ground without it. But since the interest is obviously there......the game can now be made. Win for all.

No, its not different. A shitty practice is still shitty no matter the reason. Not surprised to see you defend Sony doing something shitty though.

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@mems_1224 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Shenmue 3 is a different case. Very expensive game that didn't actually sell enough. So if this gets Shenmue 3 made all the better. It wouldn't get off the ground without it. But since the interest is obviously there......the game can now be made. Win for all.

No, its not different. A shitty practice is still shitty no matter the reason. Not surprised to see you defend Sony doing something shitty though.

I'm not defending Sony. I want Shenmue 3 and it's undoubtedly the ONLY way it gets made. Take your fan boy glasses off.

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@finalstar2007 said:
@sts106mat said:

hahaha fucking golden

@mems_1224 said:

so sony wants gamers to fund their games for them now? lmfao

@deadline-zero0 said:

We'll fund the game................................................after you payed for it.

thanks sony

You guys do realize this is a brilliant idea right??

Now the games we all want have a chance to come out, the sequels we all want have a chance to live by proving to them that there is a fanbase around. It helps the company decide which games get developed thanks to the fans/gamers rather than having shareholders decide which games we need to play.

This reduces risk.

btw you guys dont think gamers will actually pay the entire game development right? dont tell me you think shenmue 3 actually costs 2 million to develop? if so then lmfao

Yup.

Give it a go SONY, nobel effort really. Off you go.

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#42  Edited By Telekill
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@deadline-zero0: Shenmue 1 and 2 cost an at the time record breaking $90 million to develop and obviously did not make that money back which hurt Sega financially. Do you really think the $2 million that the kickstarter was asking for would cover the costs of Shenmue 3's development 14 years later and God knows how much dev cost difference?

No. That's why Sony is backing the rest of the project. They were gaging fan interest and seeing if we would put our money where our mouth is.

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#43 NFJSupreme
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taking milking cows to a whole new level. THey gonna as for crowd funding for backwards compatibility next.

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#44 randyoh
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I don't like this and knew Shenmue would lead to something like this. but fan boys have their heads shoved so far up their u know what that they will love any thing Sony does because " Sony loves them." The hell I buy a PS4 if I now have to fund and then purchase the games.

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#45 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@Telekill: They should make that clear on stage. And if the budget ends up rivaling a AAA game of 2017, wtf does 2M matter?

KS money =/= sales volume. Star Citizen has a massive 80M+ in funding, but less than 1 million backers.

But my point is about using KS has a measuring tool. Do a crowfunding on your own site and let small studios have KS. I mean, if CIG can set it up even before their ks camapaign, i'm sure Sony isn't incompetant to do it.

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Don't know how I feel about this.

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@Lionheart08 said:
@mesome713 said:

I think its a genius ideal, its proves that we dont need Sony at all. All they are is a publisher and a weak one at that, they can easily be replace by Kickstarter and a more trustworthy Publisher like Capcom or Activision etc.

@mesome713 said:

they can easily be replace by Kickstarter and a more trustworthy Publisher like Capcom or Activision etc.

@mesome713 said:

a more trustworthy Publisher like Capcom or Activision etc.

@mesome713 said:

trustworthy Publisher like Capcom.

You can laugh at Capcom all you want, but without them, your system has no fighting game. Capcom can publish at a very high level, they also have a solid track record. Sony on the other hand has a horrible track record when it comes to publishing games.

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#48 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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I will back sony if they put HL3 in kickstarter.

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@finalstar2007 said:

Now the games we all want have a chance to come out, the sequels we all want have a chance to live by proving to them that there is a fanbase around. It helps the company decide which games get developed thanks to the fans/gamers rather than having shareholders decide which games we need to play.

This reduces risk.

Thankfully someone gets it. Sending sequels to commercially unsuccessful games to Kickstarter is brilliant.

But you should remake this thread in something like the Games Discussion forum so you don't get idiot fanboys like Salt_The_Fries spewing shit.

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#50 lglz1337
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@mems_1224: i never did! and i play thise games