So what's the next killer app for Xbone?

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#1 Posted by Douevenlift_bro (6446 posts) -

Since Titanfall fell drastically short.I guess Major Nelson was the only one who wanted to see it... *chuckles*

Halo 5 or something?

Although apparently a killer app isn't supposed to sell systems or copies... or anything.

SW is so confusing in times of turmoil...

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#2 Edited by darkangel115 (3941 posts) -

I don't see how it fell short to be honest. got a 9 here, was the top selling game in march with 1.5 million if i remember correctly, is the 2nd most streamed game on twitch behind LoL and has an 86 on MC.

With that said, I would wait for E3 but Halo, Quantum Break, Sunset overdrive, Forza Horizon 2 could all be that next killer app

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#3 Posted by UltronKiller (25 posts) -

What was the first?

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#4 Posted by Douevenlift_bro (6446 posts) -

@darkangel115 said:

I don't see how it fell short to be honest. got a 9 here, was the top selling game in march with 1.5 million if i remember correctly, is the 2nd most streamed game on twitch behind LoL and has an 86 on MC.

With that said, I would wait for E3 but Halo, Quantum Break, Sunset overdrive, Forza Horizon 2 could all be that next killer app

Not score wise obviously, but commercially... eh

Is Quantum break even a real thing? I wouldn't bet 5 cents on Sunset OD

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#5 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

well titanfail was on pc so obviously most people would buy the pc 60 fps version instead of the blurry jaggy mess that the xbone version is, as much as xdrones wanted to act as if it was exclusive (LOL!) in the real world almost no one would buy a xbone to play it.

I guess that was lems last hope, let's continue laughing this year while lems repeat TEH DIRECTX and TEH HALO 5 at every negative xbone has.

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#6 Posted by SolidTy (49818 posts) -

I've been wondering that after I got Titanfall and realizing it wasn't my cup of tea.

E3 will hopefully show us the way.

343 is working on their second main Halo game with Halo 5, although I hope it's better than Halo 4 (good but not great).

Brand new studio Black Tusk canned their new IP and are working on GeoW 4.

Franchises that people love, albeit with new developers.

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#7 Edited by StrongBlackVine (13167 posts) -

It hasn't had the first one yet. Titanfall wasn't an exclusive and it didn't stop PS4 from owning the market again.

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#8 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

how did Titanfall fall drastically short?

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#9 Posted by Douevenlift_bro (6446 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

well titanfail was on pc so obviously most people would buy the pc 60 fps version instead of the blurry jaggy mess that the xbone version is, as much as xdrones wanted to act as if it was exclusive (LOL!) in the real world almost no one would buy a xbone to play it.

I guess that was lems last hope, let's continue laughing this year while lems repeat TEH DIRECTX and TEH HALO 5 at every negative xbone has.

Exactly. Maybe TF did just as expected... its prob lems that had overblown expectations. *shrug*

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#10 Posted by Douevenlift_bro (6446 posts) -
@lostrib said:

how did Titanfall fall drastically short?


Maybe it didn't realistically right? But for lems expectations of PS4 crushing killer app... well, it did.

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#11 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@Douevenlift_bro said:
@lostrib said:

how did Titanfall fall drastically short?

Maybe it didn't realistically right? But for lems expectations of PS4 crushing killer app... well, it did.

I'm glad I live in reality

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#12 Posted by Douevenlift_bro (6446 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@Douevenlift_bro said:
@lostrib said:

how did Titanfall fall drastically short?

Maybe it didn't realistically right? But for lems expectations of PS4 crushing killer app... well, it did.

I'm glad I live in reality

As do I. But SW isn't real

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#14 Posted by Douevenlift_bro (6446 posts) -
@FoxbatAlpha said:

Lol the dumb cow is questioning THE ONES line up. Obviously he lives under a rock.

whats the BONES line up?

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#15 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Lol the dumb cow is questioning THE ONES line up. Obviously he lives under a rock.

indeed because outside the rock you live ps4 is destroying xbone, people actually see which is the best product and which one will deliver the goods.

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#16 Edited by MBirdy88 (11089 posts) -

@darkangel115 said:

I don't see how it fell short to be honest. got a 9 here, was the top selling game in march with 1.5 million if i remember correctly, is the 2nd most streamed game on twitch behind LoL and has an 86 on MC.

With that said, I would wait for E3 but Halo, Quantum Break, Sunset overdrive, Forza Horizon 2 could all be that next killer app

er what? second most streamed? what for 2 minutes? it hasnt been in the top 10 since like a week after its launch....

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#17 Edited by MBirdy88 (11089 posts) -

@SolidTy said:

I've been wondering that after I got Titanfall and realizing it wasn't my cup of tea.

E3 will hopefully show us the way.

343 is working on their second main Halo game with Halo 5, although I hope it's better than Halo 4 (good but not great).

Brand new studio Black Tusk canned their new IP and are working on GeoW 4.

Franchises that people love, albeit with new developers.

So.. its Gears... Halo.... and Forza again?

oh god -_-

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#18 Posted by darkangel115 (3941 posts) -

@Krelian-co said:

well titanfail was on pc so obviously most people would buy the pc 60 fps version instead of the blurry jaggy mess that the xbone version is, as much as xdrones wanted to act as if it was exclusive (LOL!) in the real world almost no one would buy a xbone to play it.

I guess that was lems last hope, let's continue laughing this year while lems repeat TEH DIRECTX and TEH HALO 5 at every negative xbone has.

The xbox version outsold the PC version 10-1 I don't understand why people try to use their personal preference as a fact

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#19 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@darkangel115 said:

I don't see how it fell short to be honest. got a 9 here, was the top selling game in march with 1.5 million if i remember correctly, is the 2nd most streamed game on twitch behind LoL and has an 86 on MC.

With that said, I would wait for E3 but Halo, Quantum Break, Sunset overdrive, Forza Horizon 2 could all be that next killer app

er what? second most streamed? what for 2 minutes? it hasnt been in the top 10 since like a week after its launch....

rofl at thinking titanfall can get more channel views than games like dota and lol.

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#20 Posted by darkangel115 (3941 posts) -
@MBirdy88 said:

@SolidTy said:

I've been wondering that after I got Titanfall and realizing it wasn't my cup of tea.

E3 will hopefully show us the way.

343 is working on their second main Halo game with Halo 5, although I hope it's better than Halo 4 (good but not great).

Brand new studio Black Tusk canned their new IP and are working on GeoW 4.

Franchises that people love, albeit with new developers.

So.. its Gears... Halo.... and Forza again?

oh god -_-

I never understood that argument. same could be said

Sony - its uncharted, god of war, and gran turismo again

Nintendo - Its Donkey Kong, Mario, and zelda again

Of course they will stick to their core franchises as long as they are popular. But they also mix in some new ones. So far for new IPs MS has brought Ryse and Titanfall to the table as well as teased Quantum Break, Sunset overdrive, D4, to name a few. Sony has brought knack, and teased drive club and deep down. I'm not sure where the misconceptions are?

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#21 Edited by MBirdy88 (11089 posts) -

@darkangel115 said:

@Krelian-co said:

well titanfail was on pc so obviously most people would buy the pc 60 fps version instead of the blurry jaggy mess that the xbone version is, as much as xdrones wanted to act as if it was exclusive (LOL!) in the real world almost no one would buy a xbone to play it.

I guess that was lems last hope, let's continue laughing this year while lems repeat TEH DIRECTX and TEH HALO 5 at every negative xbone has.

The xbox version outsold the PC version 10-1 I don't understand why people try to use their personal preference as a fact

Indeed.... Other than Conterstrike, Battlefield, lesser extent CoD ... and Team Fortress 2. FPS are a old-hat dying trend on PC.... they are saturated... only the greats live on.

Titanfall did not even make it into the top 10 sellers on greenmangaming ... at all.... while Elder Scrolls Online has been on there for months at top.

CoD like shooters are not big on PC anymore.... its all about MMO's, Online-RPGs and MOBAs .... or things like Minecraft/Hearthstone/DayZ/Star Citizen ect.

CoD style FPS is the only REALLY successful online genre on consoles... and got old on PC years ago.

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#22 Posted by dommeus (9433 posts) -

@Douevenlift_bro:

Considering the X1 has sold 5 million to retailers as of this week, what numbers did Titanfall garner on that platform specifically?

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#23 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

Call of Halo.

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#24 Posted by f50p90 (3767 posts) -

"Halo/Gears/Forza is all that is or was or ever will be"

- Carl Sagan via Major Nelson

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#25 Posted by Blabadon (32740 posts) -

Titanfall fell short?

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#26 Posted by MBirdy88 (11089 posts) -

@darkangel115 said:
@MBirdy88 said:

@SolidTy said:

I've been wondering that after I got Titanfall and realizing it wasn't my cup of tea.

E3 will hopefully show us the way.

343 is working on their second main Halo game with Halo 5, although I hope it's better than Halo 4 (good but not great).

Brand new studio Black Tusk canned their new IP and are working on GeoW 4.

Franchises that people love, albeit with new developers.

So.. its Gears... Halo.... and Forza again?

oh god -_-

I never understood that argument. same could be said

Sony - its uncharted, god of war, and gran turismo again

Nintendo - Its Donkey Kong, Mario, and zelda again

Of course they will stick to their core franchises as long as they are popular. But they also mix in some new ones. So far for new IPs MS has brought Ryse and Titanfall to the table as well as teased Quantum Break, Sunset overdrive, D4, to name a few. Sony has brought knack, and teased drive club and deep down. I'm not sure where the misconceptions are?

Because, and this is my opinion and I suppose proven by how those franchises have gone down hill... that Xbox's first party spam is the worst of the three by a large margin in terms of quality...

Halo .... not even by the same people anymore. neither is gears (a franchise that has got worse) and Forza..... while it got a 9 alot less content than its predocessors and horrible microtransactions.

Nintendo games are always mint..... even if they are the same franchise they always push the barrier of their genre further (well most of them) very rarely will a game go backwards in quality like Halo/Gears has.... 2 franchises that have lost a hell of a lot of their influence... gears is nearly redundant.

Sony ... Uncharted is still strong, Last of Us is new, Little Big Planet OOOOOZES potential with 8GB RAM. God of Wars is Sony's gears of war to me ... a quickly becoming redundant franchise that lasted too long and relies mostly on looks.

simply put.... Xbox's franchise spam is an absolute snooze fest. I could go into more detail.... but clearly the last 4-5 years of Xbox360's life is evidence enough that these 3 franchises are not enough.

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#27 Posted by blamix (235 posts) -

There is no killer for X1 now

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#28 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (11896 posts) -

@ultronkiller said:

What was the first?

Forza 5

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#29 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@ultronkiller said:

What was the first?

Cold

Ice cold

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#30 Posted by sailor232 (6307 posts) -

Titanfall surpassed my expectations, that game is very very fun. I'm wishing Microsoft gets a backwards comparability thing going as I haven't played any Gears, Halo, Forza and the other games the 360 received at all. This would give me years of solid gaming if it happened.

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#31 Posted by darkangel115 (3941 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:

@darkangel115 said:
@MBirdy88 said:

@SolidTy said:

I've been wondering that after I got Titanfall and realizing it wasn't my cup of tea.

E3 will hopefully show us the way.

343 is working on their second main Halo game with Halo 5, although I hope it's better than Halo 4 (good but not great).

Brand new studio Black Tusk canned their new IP and are working on GeoW 4.

Franchises that people love, albeit with new developers.

So.. its Gears... Halo.... and Forza again?

oh god -_-

I never understood that argument. same could be said

Sony - its uncharted, god of war, and gran turismo again

Nintendo - Its Donkey Kong, Mario, and zelda again

Of course they will stick to their core franchises as long as they are popular. But they also mix in some new ones. So far for new IPs MS has brought Ryse and Titanfall to the table as well as teased Quantum Break, Sunset overdrive, D4, to name a few. Sony has brought knack, and teased drive club and deep down. I'm not sure where the misconceptions are?

Because, and this is my opinion and I suppose proven by how those franchises have gone down hill... that Xbox's first party spam is the worst of the three by a large margin in terms of quality...

Halo .... not even by the same people anymore. neither is gears (a franchise that has got worse) and Forza..... while it got a 9 alot less content than its predocessors and horrible microtransactions.

Nintendo games are always mint..... even if they are the same franchise they always push the barrier of their genre further (well most of them) very rarely will a game go backwards in quality like Halo/Gears has.... 2 franchises that have lost a hell of a lot of their influence... gears is nearly redundant.

Sony ... Uncharted is still strong, Last of Us is new, Little Big Planet OOOOOZES potential with 8GB RAM. God of Wars is Sony's gears of war to me ... a quickly becoming redundant franchise that lasted too long and relies mostly on looks.

simply put.... Xbox's franchise spam is an absolute snooze fest. I could go into more detail.... but clearly the last 4-5 years of Xbox360's life is evidence enough that these 3 franchises are not enough.

I could totally (and respectfully) disagree.

Yes Gears judgement was a let down, but it was clear that epic was done with the game they only did the MP and people can fly did the SP campaign. However gears 3 is a great game and still has a strong online presence. With MS owns 1st party taking it over, its not inconceivable they can make up for the 1 entry to the series that was an average game compared to the 1st 3 all being awesome.

Halo was more a sense of bungie. people hated halo 4 because bungie didn't make it. Then there was the people that didn't like the faster pace of the multiplayer, and of course the people upset over the ending (much like we seen in ME3) but still it was a great game. Me personally i enjoyed halo 4 more then halo 3 but less then 1 and 2. Plus it still sold close to 10 million and still has an online playerbase. I wouldn't say halo is anywhere near going downhill.

Forza was rushed to meet the Xbox one release date. Now personally i don't have it and i don't like racing games. But the game still had over 200 cars and plenty of tracks. and the next one will probably have more due to more time. I do know what forza goes through to make their car and track models and it takes alot of time. and most people still consider it the gold standard of racing games.

Now with Sony Everyone universally agrees that UC3 was not as good as UC2. Now that doens't mean the series is in decline, but it has been well documented. God of War ascension was considered a huge letdown just like gears judgement. So why do people not say that franchise is dead? LBP is a cool concept. Not my type of game, but MS is doing project spark which is a more advanced version of LBP (and another new IP from MS) So why does nobody mention project spark either?

As far as nintendo, well i'm not going to get into that. I don't have a wii U and I've kind of grown out of them and will stick to Sony and MS for now.

In the end, So far this generation, MS has shown more new IPs as well as bringing back their classic big 4 franchises (halo, gears, forza, fable) meanwhile sony gave 1 new IP knack which was a flop, Another killzone which is just a poor series, and not many new IPs shown. Sony has naught dog which has a following of worshippers and will honestly upvote anything they do whether good or bad, but outside of that, their other studios haven't produced much.

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#32 Edited by SolidTy (49818 posts) -
@MBirdy88 said:

@SolidTy said:

I've been wondering that after I got Titanfall and realizing it wasn't my cup of tea.

E3 will hopefully show us the way.

343 is working on their second main Halo game with Halo 5, although I hope it's better than Halo 4 (good but not great).

Brand new studio Black Tusk canned their new IP and are working on GeoW 4.

Franchises that people love, albeit with new developers.

So.. its Gears... Halo.... and Forza again?

oh god -_-

It worked last gen! (although with diff. devs). :)

Throw in some timed exclusive deals and you got a strategy people seem okay with. Occasionally we also get a Fable, although there's new guys at Lionhead now too when Peter M and his boys flew the roost.

It may not win over new fans, but it is what it is.

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#33 Posted by RR360DD (13552 posts) -

Hilarious a cow asking about the XOnes lineup when the best the PS4 has got is Flopfamous LOL

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#34 Edited by kinectthedots (3383 posts) -

@speedfreak48t5p said:

@ultronkiller said:

What was the first?

Forza 5

Forza has never been a killer app for xbox and getting a 9.0 in the small world of gamespot doesn't change that fact. Forza 5 is a pretty shameful trans gen, micro-transactions, cash grab production.

It sells well enough for a high profile xbox title but it doesn't move any consoles. Being a killer app implies that a game pushes people to buy the console to play that game. GT is still more of a killer app hell Drive Club might end up being more of a killer app than Forza is.

People buy/bought xbox systems to play the next halo or gears. People who want a variety of high quality exclusive games across various genres buy playstation consoles, that is how it is.

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#35 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (4542 posts) -

Does the PS4 have an AAA exclusive yet?

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#36 Posted by Randolph (10542 posts) -

Neither system has much of anything to brag about. Xbone has Call of Duty with mechs, PS4 has Infamous, a very pretty but painfully short game that is drastically light on content. On software, they both just flat out suck right now.

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#37 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1238 posts) -

For Titanfall doubters, (guy that used to think Titanfall was nothing but a COD copy until he played it)

youtube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktKz44fEqI0

Best game of the year so far.

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#38 Posted by getyeryayasout (10405 posts) -

An even newer Pizza Hut app that auto orders whenever Kinect hears your tummy growl? All that greasy pie could literally make it (Sunglasses) a killer app. (Yeaaaah!)

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#39 Posted by IMAHAPYHIPPO (2956 posts) -

Hopefully Quantum Break. Remedy's never disappointed before, so I have no reason to believe they'll let me down.

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#40 Posted by Vatusus (6246 posts) -

@darkangel115 said:

I don't see how it fell short to be honest. got a 9 here, was the top selling game in march with 1.5 million if i remember correctly, is the 2nd most streamed game on twitch behind LoL and has an 86 on MC.

With that said, I would wait for E3 but Halo, Quantum Break, Sunset overdrive, Forza Horizon 2 could all be that next killer app

Killer apps are games that push consoles. Besides Halo 5, I dont see any of those you mention doing that. If Titanfall couldnt make the X1 surpass the PS4, even for 1 month, I dont believe others will, well besides Halo, and even so, it'll only be for a couple of months.

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#41 Posted by RitsukoBlue (28 posts) -

@Krelian-co:

@Krelian-co said:

well titanfail was on pc so obviously most people would buy the pc 60 fps version instead of the blurry jaggy mess that the xbone version is, as much as xdrones wanted to act as if it was exclusive (LOL!) in the real world almost no one would buy a xbone to play it.

I guess that was lems last hope, let's continue laughing this year while lems repeat TEH DIRECTX and TEH HALO 5 at every negative xbone has.

LOL!! HATER!!

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#42 Posted by xxyetixx (1961 posts) -

@Vatusus: You are outta your mind if you think Titanfall was gonna be a game to move consoles. It's a new IP that was marketed heavily that's all. They wanted it to move systems but who goes out and invests $500 on a series they have no clue on. Halo 5 is the only killer system selling app X1 has going for it right now. Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive they look cool and interesting.

If I played sales and really really cared, I'd be ashamed if a $500 system out sold the savior that is PS4. But the fact is the X1 is a $500 systems thats sold 5 million already. That's not bad at all.

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#43 Posted by kinectthedots (3383 posts) -

@xxyetixx said:

@Vatusus: You are outta your mind if you think Titanfall was gonna be a game to move consoles. It's a new IP that was marketed heavily that's all. They wanted it to move systems but who goes out and invests $500 on a series they have no clue on. Halo 5 is the only killer system selling app X1 has going for it right now. Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive they look cool and interesting.

If I played sales and really really cared, I'd be ashamed if a $500 system out sold the savior that is PS4. But the fact is the X1 is a $500 systems thats sold 5 million already. That's not bad at all.

lol

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#44 Posted by cainetao11 (28138 posts) -

@Douevenlift_bro said:
@lostrib said:

how did Titanfall fall drastically short?

Maybe it didn't realistically right? But for lems expectations of PS4 crushing killer app... well, it did.

But there has never been a console crushing, killer app. Hence all 3 are still in the business.

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#45 Edited by kinectthedots (3383 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@Douevenlift_bro said:
@lostrib said:

how did Titanfall fall drastically short?

Maybe it didn't realistically right? But for lems expectations of PS4 crushing killer app... well, it did.

But there has never been a console crushing, killer app. Hence all 3 are still in the business.

For lems, and in general, killer apps (titanfall for instance) are supposed to push a systems sales to a new watermark or past the competition for at least a short period of time.

So yes, there have been killer apps that have spurred on sales above the competition for a least short periods of time i.e halo for 360, wii Sports for wii and MGS4 for PS3 ect. So yes indeed Titanfall did fall short. It's wasn't the killer app that xbox fanboys thought would help xbox one equal or surpass PS4 in sales for even one month.

This thread in itself is my back up as evidence of what xbox fans expectations were for Titanfall's killer app status on xbox one so any damage control is pointless...the game fell short.

@kuu2 said:
@FoxbatAlpha said:

XBOX ONE: 548,589

PS4: 190,560

Wii U: 17

That is pretty close to what I think for sure.

What is Nintendo going to do?

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#46 Edited by lunar1122 (775 posts) -

@darkangel115 said:

@Krelian-co said:

well titanfail was on pc so obviously most people would buy the pc 60 fps version instead of the blurry jaggy mess that the xbone version is, as much as xdrones wanted to act as if it was exclusive (LOL!) in the real world almost no one would buy a xbone to play it.

I guess that was lems last hope, let's continue laughing this year while lems repeat TEH DIRECTX and TEH HALO 5 at every negative xbone has.

The xbox version outsold the PC version 10-1 I don't understand why people try to use their personal preference as a fact

you do realize that no digital sales are ever recorded when sites report in about how much has titanfall sold or any game for that matter?.. Pc has moved away from physical sales for the most part.. as i dont know what benefit there is to having a hard copy of a pc game. You still need to put your key on origin or steam etc... I highly doubt pc got outsold 10-1 but i wouldnt be shocked if that was indeed true. Only Battlefield 4 we really care about on the pc side for FPS's. Titanfall is my side game alongside hearthstone/dota 2

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#47 Posted by cainetao11 (28138 posts) -

@kinectthedots said:

@cainetao11 said:

@Douevenlift_bro said:
@lostrib said:

how did Titanfall fall drastically short?

Maybe it didn't realistically right? But for lems expectations of PS4 crushing killer app... well, it did.

But there has never been a console crushing, killer app. Hence all 3 are still in the business.

For lems, and in general, killer apps (titanfall for instance) are supposed to push a systems sales to a new watermark or past the competition for at least a short period of time.

So yes, there have been killer apps that have spurred on sales above the competition for a least short periods of time i.e halo for 360, wii Sports for wii and MGS4 for PS3 ect. So yes indeed Titanfall did fall short. It's wasn't the killer app that xbox fanboys thought would help xbox one equal or surpass PS4 in sales for even one month.

This thread in itself is my back up as evidence of what xbox fans expectations were for Titanfall's killer app status on xbox one so any damage control is pointless...the game fell short.

@kuu2 said:
@FoxbatAlpha said:

XBOX ONE: 548,589

PS4: 190,560

Wii U: 17

That is pretty close to what I think for sure.

What is Nintendo going to do?

Okey dokey. I didn't see this game moving enough X1s to catch or pass ps4 because its on PC and 360. My post you replied to was just me having fun. I am well aware what a killer app is.

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#49 Posted by Spitfire-Six (1089 posts) -

Im pretty excited for Quantum Break. Whats next for PS4?

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#50 Posted by Indicud (745 posts) -

The Xbox One doesn't have any games, it's barren for the next 2 years