So basically NX is dead on arrival?

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#1 TigerSuperman
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Because there are some serious issues just based on what we know, whther the info actually gives information or is nothing but vague statements.

The NX seems to be going the route of making it's own ecosystem. maybe QOL qill also be attached, regardless, there are sayings of Nintendo android compatibility. Most likely this will result in a weak console. Maybe stronger than Wii U (are there phones stronget than Wii U out?) or slightly weaker. This is not good.

Then of course, we have to talk about the audience they are targeting. The strategy with NX is aiming for the casuals the Wii got, it's aiming for the casuals on mobile, especially since there's talk of their own ecosystem. Problem with this is that the casuals on Mobile are already invested in tons of options that are already crowding the market, there's nothing Nintendo could actually do to take those people off mobile to a handheld. EWven if NX is a phone, and it's probably not, this audience won't budge over competition with tons of support.

Then of course, with the console portion of the "NX ecosystem" (assuming this OS they are proposing will run on the next handheld as well hence the above) we run into another problem. Again TP support will likely not be fixed, and of course the large part of the core crowd will not be levitating towards the console, especially since investment in PS4/X1 will be hitting the peaks around the time this system launched.

Then you have the issue if the casuals that buy home consoles. An android compatible OS is basically a more flexible version of the OUYA, why would casuals by an underpowered or similar powered system, which is compatible with android games (probable)? Yeah sure, Nintendos own games will be there, but that doesn't hold anything by itself.

The only possible way of potential success is QOL, if it's attached to the NX as a gimmick it could potentially sell at least half of the current Wii U figures. Issue is from what we have heard, and it's very little, QOL isn't actually a "device/hardware", and with the market grabbing most of the audiences, there's only so few groups left that Nintendo can grab that's left on the table.

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#2 MonsieurX
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Considering the little we know about the NX,your thread is dumb

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#3  Edited By chessmaster1989
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@MonsieurX said:

Considering the little we know about the NX,your thread is dumb

When has TC made a thread that wasn't dumb?

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#4 bulby_g
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Nintendo said that it wouldn't use an Android OS. We have zero info on the NX so such speculations are completely pointless.

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#5 MonsieurX
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@chessmaster1989 said:
@MonsieurX said:

Considering the little we know about the NX,your thread is dumb

When has TC made a thread that wasn't dumb?

Good question.

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#6 Shewgenja
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I can picture a mass exodus of XBox fans to the NX. Third party releases will slow down for the XBone which leaves the door open for the new Nintendo to make a splash.

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#7 Kjranu
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NX DOA? More like your thread is dead on arrival.

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#8 YearoftheSnake5
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Oh look, tons of speculation and no facts!

My turn! My turn!

I predict that the NX will implement headset free hololens technology and support mental integration with the player so that they can continue playing the game in their head wherever they go!

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#9 DocSanchez
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A lot of angry Nintendo fanboys to an honest question.

I think previous mistakes and releasing way too early for next gen guarantee it is dead on arrival. You won't get third party ( they will promise it), you will eventually be way underpowered (they will promise not) and the issues revolving around droughts will be just as bad as they are now.

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#10  Edited By TigerSuperman
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@bulby_g said:

Nintendo said that it wouldn't use an Android OS. We have zero info on the NX so such speculations are completely pointless.

I didn't say anything about them suing Nintendo OS, jumpy Nintendo fans in this forum. Theres a going around about NX being compatible with android, due to their "confirmed" mobile initiative. Or did people forget about that?

The add to the fact that they have no audience to actual target that will "boost" their market share and boom.

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#12 Chutebox
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@MonsieurX said:

your thread is dumb

Sorry, had to fix this as it pertains to every single thread/post he makes.

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#13 Heil68
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Powerfully it releases more than 4 games every 6 months.

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@mesome713 said:

lol. this.

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@MonsieurX said:
@chessmaster1989 said:
@MonsieurX said:

Considering the little we know about the NX,your thread is dumb

When has TC made a thread that wasn't dumb?

Good question.

i thought we wouldn't have to see him create stupid posts again?

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#16  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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@YearoftheSnake5 said:

Oh look, tons of speculation and no facts!

My turn! My turn!

I predict that the NX will implement headset free hololens technology and support mental integration with the player so that they can continue playing the game in their head wherever they go!

I'd rather not trust nintendo with my head :P

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#17  Edited By AzatiS
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@TigerSuperman: No its not dead in arrival ... We have to wait and see.

The fact that they focus on NX games already since they said officialy no more games for Wii U other than Zelda U ... lets wait and see. I think Nintendo will have an awesome NX release day 1 with games like Mario etc

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#18 B_rich84
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@TigerSuperman:

You do realize that the Android OS is just an OS? If they use it the system itself can still be just as powerful if not more than a ps4. I have Nvidia Shield TV and it uses Android. It's also stronger than a PS4. It can easily play all games at 1080p 60fps.

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#19  Edited By bulby_g
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@TigerSuperman said:
@bulby_g said:

Nintendo said that it wouldn't use an Android OS. We have zero info on the NX so such speculations are completely pointless.

I didn't say anything about them suing Nintendo OS, jumpy Nintendo fans in this forum. Theres a going around about NX being compatible with android, due to their "confirmed" mobile initiative. Or did people forget about that?

The add to the fact that they have no audience to actual target that will "boost" their market share and boom.

Where the hell did you read that in my post. :P I said nothing about suing. I said Nintendo confirmed they are not using Android for the NX:

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/could-the-nintendo-nx-console-be-an-android-tablet--1295451

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/06/02/nintendo-nx-will-not-run-android

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@Chozofication said:

I'd rather not trust nintendo with my head :P

Come onnnnn! Amiibo, friend notifications, hard freezes, what's not to love?

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@DocSanchez said:

A lot of angry Nintendo fanboys to an honest question.

I think previous mistakes and releasing way too early for next gen guarantee it is dead on arrival. You won't get third party ( they will promise it), you will eventually be way underpowered (they will promise not) and the issues revolving around droughts will be just as bad as they are now.

"Honest question?" Out of TigerSuperman?

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#22  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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It's not the question will it be dead on arrival but rather will Wii U owners will trust Nintendo to promise them with more 3rd party support is the real questions on anyone's mind. Nintendo is gonna have to surprise us what the NX can do.

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#23 Dire_Weasel
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I didn't read whatever the OP wrote, but if TigerSuperman makes a claim, the opposite is always true.

Congratulations on your successful launch, NX.

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#24 bunchanumbers
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lol what a bad thread.

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#25 DaVillain  Moderator
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@bunchanumbers said:

lol what a bad thread.

I seen worst but Tiger is hardly worst.

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#26 nintendoboy16
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@Dire_Weasel said:

I didn't read whatever the OP wrote, but if TigerSuperman makes a claim, the opposite is always true.

Congratulations on your successful launch, NX.

Like Michael Pachter.

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#27  Edited By freedom01  Moderator
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Nintendo has not released any information about the NX other than it is a home console and that it does not use an Android OS. Until Nintendo officially reveals information about the NX, any info about the NX right now are just speculations and rumors.

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#28 DocSanchez
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@freedom01: and based off Nintendo's current situation and track record. Which is fair enough.

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@AzatiS said:

@TigerSuperman: No its not dead in arrival ... We have to wait and see.

The fact that they focus on NX games already since they said officialy no more games for Wii U other than Zelda U ... lets wait and see. I think Nintendo will have an awesome NX release day 1 with games like Mario etc

Actually they didn't say this at all and even said they are prioritizing support for Wii U owners.

@bulby_g said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@bulby_g said:

Nintendo said that it wouldn't use an Android OS. We have zero info on the NX so such speculations are completely pointless.

I didn't say anything about them suing Nintendo OS, jumpy Nintendo fans in this forum. Theres a going around about NX being compatible with android, due to their "confirmed" mobile initiative. Or did people forget about that?

The add to the fact that they have no audience to actual target that will "boost" their market share and boom.

Where the hell did you read that in my post. :P I said nothing about suing. I said Nintendo confirmed they are not using Android for the NX:

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/could-the-nintendo-nx-console-be-an-android-tablet--1295451

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/06/02/nintendo-nx-will-not-run-android

They said it would be compatible, i never said using which is the second time I said this, where did I say they would USE android? Think Blackberry (or well if you know who they are considering they are irrelevant.)

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@TigerSuperman said:

Because there are some serious issues just based on what we know...

Oh you mean...pretty much nothing?

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#31 KBFloYd
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nx is a console? i thought it was a handheld.

wtf?

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#32  Edited By TigerSuperman
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@KBFloYd said:

nx is a console? i thought it was a handheld.

wtf?

Nintendo used the word console in one of the interviews. They also said compatibility with android if not mistaken.

Then of course, audience wise, what's left for them to grab?

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#33  Edited By Shinobishyguy
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@DocSanchez: >*people point out that theres not a whole lot of information on the nx*

>"THOSE NINTENDO FANS AM I RIGHT FELLAS?"

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#34 N64DD
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Nice troll thread you got here.

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#35  Edited By lamprey263
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If Nintendo can't properly support the Wii U until the end of 2016 then like hell I'm supporting the NX... however, in TC's case, Nintendo could have like three Metroid games released in 2016 and I still wouldn't buy it if it were a phone.

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#36 LJS9502_basic
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@chessmaster1989 said:
@MonsieurX said:

Considering the little we know about the NX,your thread is dumb

When has TC made a thread that wasn't dumb?

I think both of these posts have some merit.

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#37 AzatiS
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@TigerSuperman said:
@AzatiS said:

@TigerSuperman: No its not dead in arrival ... We have to wait and see.

The fact that they focus on NX games already since they said officialy no more games for Wii U other than Zelda U ... lets wait and see. I think Nintendo will have an awesome NX release day 1 with games like Mario etc

Actually they didn't say this at all and even said they are prioritizing support for Wii U owners.

They already officialy stated that there wont be more MARIO / KART / SMASH main series games for Wii U and that Zelda Wii U will be obviously the last of the big titles Wii U will see 1st party wise.

If you think Nintendo isnt working on new Mario already for NX or even a new KART/SMASH then you need to reconsider. I bet also Zelda Wii U will have an NX version on release or a bit after too.

prioritizing support for Wii U owners yet you wont see more mario/kart/smash is a marketing trick to sale as much Wii U consoles as possible before NX gets a release. MArketing trick if you like.

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#38 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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What a dumb thread.

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#39 aroxx_ab
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Weak hardware, gimmicks, no 3party support yeah Nintendo is dead

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#40 NyaDC
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Who is going to win June NPD?

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#41 DocSanchez
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@Shinobishyguy: Why are you shouting?

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@YearoftheSnake5 said:
@Chozofication said:

I'd rather not trust nintendo with my head :P

Come onnnnn! Amiibo, friend notifications, hard freezes, what's not to love?

And they're calling it the Nintendo lobotomy >:^D

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#43  Edited By Skelly34
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You're not a very nice person, tiger.

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#44 Kaze_no_Mirai
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@TigerSuperman: Do you have a link to Nintendo saying it would be "compatible" with Android?

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#45 cainetao11
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I'm big believer in reality. I know, its outlandish. So I'll wait and see.

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#46 LadyBlue
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Please, stay away from android.

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#47 so_hai
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No console in history, even the very worst, were dead on arrival. It takes a while for the market to respond and it no one knows what will work or not.

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#48 mariokart64fan
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@MonsieurX: when has anyone who bashed an unknown console ever been smart

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way too early for this. chill

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#50 bunchanumbers
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@TigerSuperman said:
@KBFloYd said:

nx is a console? i thought it was a handheld.

wtf?

Nintendo used the word console in one of the interviews. They also said compatibility with android if not mistaken.

Then of course, audience wise, what's left for them to grab?

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/06/02/nintendo-says-the-nx-wont-use-android/

There you have it. Everything you're saying is speculation and rumor. And to top it off not even the latest rumors and heresay.