Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition is <30 fps on consoles.

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#1  Edited By mikhail
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The console versions are definitely lagging behind again. PS4 seems to maintain a 30 fps most of the time, whereas the Xbox One version is hovering at a cinematic 24-28 fps while there is any amount of action going on. Even the PS4 version dips during demanding scenes, being unable to stay at 30 fps during the most demanding scenes.

Once again, the real definitive edition is on PC. Nice job, next gen consoles!

Yes, the video thumbnail is at a section where the Xbox One version drops down to an extra cinematic 22 fps. Michael Bay would be proud. Or maybe Tyler Perry.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-sleeping-dogs-definitive-edition-face-off

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#2 lostrib
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Makes the game more cinematic so the story telling is better

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#3  Edited By PapaTrop
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I will blink more rapidly to offset the effects of lower FPS

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#4 Heil68
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Already beat on PC, now it's time to play on PS4.

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#5  Edited By Gue1
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@papatrop:

That joke would stick if it at least were ironic in some way like the "being more cinematic" statement but we don't even see in frames. Less frames is less information on screen thus more motion blur.

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#6  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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Thing that you PC Elitists don't understand is , it's locked at 30fps on purpose and not due to hardware limitations . 30fps is for purists . 60fps ruins the experience . Yes , it is more responsive , yes it looks more smoother but 30fps just feels right . It makes the game for cinematic . Now go back to your low budget indie games .

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#7 PapaTrop
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@Gue1 said:

@papatrop:

That joke would stick if it at least were ironic in some way like the "being more cinematic" statement but we don't even see in frames. Less frames is less information on screen thus more motion blur.

I see both in frames per second, AND in pixels per inch

Don't you tell me otherwise! >:(

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#8 millerlight89
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Somehow i will survive. My consoles will continue to get my time and my pc will be for youtubes. At least i have sli for super smooth youtubes

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@Cloud_imperium said:

Thing that you PC Elitists don't understand is , it's locked at 30fps on purpose and not due to hardware limitations . 30fps is for purists . 60fps ruins the experience . Yes , it is more responsive , yes it looks more smoother but 30fps just feels right . It makes the game for cinematic . Now go back to your low budget indie games .

lol, nicely done.

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Somehow i will survive. My consoles will continue to get my time and my pc will be for youtubes. At least i have sli for super smooth youtubes

Ah...the classic "I have a $X,000 gaming PC but I never use it because my consoles are so amazing!"

SLI what?

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#10 Crypt_mx
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I've been saying it for a while, the real power difference between the next gen consoles is a handful of frames or a slight resolution difference. 20fps lowest on X1 vs 25fps lowest on PS4. A difference of 5fps.

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#11 Blabadon
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Old news

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#12 mikhail
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@Crypt_mx said:

I've been saying it for a while, the real power difference between the next gen consoles is a handful of frames or a slight resolution difference. 20fps lowest on X1 vs 25fps lowest on PS4. A difference of 5fps.

5 fps is a lot when your game is only running 30 fps to begin with. A 20% increase is needed to go from 25 fps to 30 fps, at least linearly.

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#13  Edited By mikhail
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@Blabadon said:

Old news

Maybe, but the Digital Foundry article and frame rate comparison showing the Xbox One's extreme frame dropping is new.

I'm sure you will get over it.

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#14  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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CPU is probably a serious bottleneck.

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#15  Edited By millerlight89
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@mikhail: i can't help there is no reason to use the thing

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#16  Edited By mikhail
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@millerlight89 said:

@mikhail: i can't help there is no reason to use the thing

Maybe I can suggest something...what SLI do you have?

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#17  Edited By Shawty_Beatz
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@mikhail said:

@millerlight89 said:

@mikhail: i can't help there is no reason to use the thing

Maybe I can suggest something...what SLI do you have?

Overclocked SLI 980s of course.

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#18  Edited By mikhail
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@shawty_beatz said:

@mikhail said:

@millerlight89 said:

@mikhail: i can't help there is no reason to use the thing

Maybe I can suggest something...what SLI do you have?

Overclocked SLI 980s of course.

That's what I was thinking =P

The way he said "i have sli" made it clear he doesn't even know what SLI is, let alone actually owning a gaming PC. Heard it all before, dude! Go download more RAM.

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#19 Jankarcop
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Human eye can't see past cinematic feel.

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#20  Edited By millerlight89
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@mikhail: people who were here a while know i was one of the biggest pc elitists around. Believe me or don't, it's cool. I just got so tired of playing nothing but multiplat games.

Ps it's gtx 670s as i quit right before the 7 series hit.

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#21 mikhail
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@millerlight89 said:

@mikhail: people who were here a while know i was one of the biggest pc elitists around. Believe me or don't, it's cool. I just got so tired of playing nothing but multiplat games.

Except...you're just dodging the question. Nice try, though.

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#22  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@millerlight89 said:

@mikhail: people who were here a while know i was one of the biggest pc elitists around. Believe me or don't, it's cool. I just got so tired of playing nothing but multiplat games.

Ps it's gtx 670s as i quit right before the 7 series hit.

Has a rig with more power than the PS4 and can play the games much better

Uses PS4 instead

Seems legit.

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#23 bigblunt537
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They were at 30 fps 99.9% of the time. In fact most of the slow down was during rainy scenes. They performed well although the PS4 has the edge with a more consistent 30 fps.

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#24  Edited By mikhail
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@bigblunt537 said:

They were at 30 fps 99.9% of the time. In fact most of the slow down was during rainy scenes. They performed well although the PS4 has the edge with a more consistent 30 fps.

Considering 30 fps to be "performing well" is a pretty low standard, isn't it? Especially when we're talking about a last-gen port.

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#25 HaloPimp978
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After looking at the video not impressed at all.

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#26 flashn00b
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I thought the point of these remasters is to give console gamers a taste of 1080p60?

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#27 bigblunt537
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@mikhail: Well it's what the developers were aiming for. I love 60 fps just as much as the next guy, but I don't complain if I get a solid 30 fps. The game is still just as enjoyable as 60 fps. It's not like this game a terrible frame rate that drops a lot.

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#28 NFJSupreme
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This isn't news anymore

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@HaloPimp978 said:

After looking at the video not impressed at all.

It's like a slightly less good looking version of the original on PC, but at half the frame rate.

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#30 HaloPimp978
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@mikhail: I had the game on PC so maybe its just my comparison with that.

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#31  Edited By Ben-Buja
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Both consoles should be able to get higher fps. Smells like a CPU bottleneck...

This is from the first release of SD, but whatever. I don't think the performance in the DE is much different

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@bigblunt537 said:

@mikhail: Well it's what the developers were aiming for. I love 60 fps just as much as the next guy, but I don't complain if I get a solid 30 fps. The game is still just as enjoyable as 60 fps. It's not like this game a terrible frame rate that drops a lot.

This game was released on the last gen machines, this if anything shows just how weak these "next gen" consoles really are and how the big the gap is between even a basic gaming PC and these consoles.

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@Heil68 said:

Already beat on PC, now it's time to play on PS4.

Why.

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#34  Edited By millerlight89
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@parkurtommo: because he wants to?

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#35  Edited By Heil68
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@parkurtommo said:

@Heil68 said:

Already beat on PC, now it's time to play on PS4.

Why.

It's an awesome game and now I get my trophies :D

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#36  Edited By parkurtommo
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@Heil68 said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Heil68 said:

Already beat on PC, now it's time to play on PS4.

Why.

It's an awesome game and now I get my trophies :D

Dem $30-60whateverthepriceis trophies.

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#37 Jankarcop
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Can'tsoles. Another best on PC title.

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@millerlight89 said:

@mikhail: people who were here a while know i was one of the biggest pc elitists around. Believe me or don't, it's cool. I just got so tired of playing nothing but multiplat games.

Ps it's gtx 670s as i quit right before the 7 series hit.

PC has more aaa-aa exclusives than all consoles combined.

You should say "IMO" or "Genres I like" next time.

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@parkurtommo said:

@Heil68 said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Heil68 said:

Already beat on PC, now it's time to play on PS4.

Why.

It's an awesome game and now I get my trophies :D

Dem $30-60whateverthepriceis trophies.

The game is full priced at $60. A total joke imo

You could get the original game for $9,99 on the last steam sale and you'd get much better performance with a mediocre rig.

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@Ben-Buja said:

You could get the original game for $9,99 on the last steam sale and you'd get much better performance with a mediocre rig.

It regularly went on sale for $3.99-$5, actually. It's been $5 or under on Steam at least four times this year alone. Looks like the old version has been pulled for sale on Steam now in favor of the new Definitive Edition, which is now priced at $29.99. Anyone who owned the previous version of Sleeping Dogs on Steam can "upgrade" to the Definitive Edition for $14.99.

"With all 24 previously available DLC extensions included and a wealth of visual improvements, Hong Kong has never felt so alive."

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#41 millerlight89
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@Jankarcop: i don't have to say imo everytime. You people that slow that you can't figure out an opinion without someone spelling it out? Why am I asking, of course 99 percent of y'all are.

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@mikhail said:

@Ben-Buja said:

You could get the original game for $9,99 on the last steam sale and you'd get much better performance with a mediocre rig.

It regularly went on sale for $3.99-$5, actually. It's been $5 or under on Steam at least four times this year alone. Looks like the old version has been pulled for sale on Steam now in favor of the new Definitive Edition, which is now priced at $29.99. Anyone who owned the previous version of Sleeping Dogs on Steam can "upgrade" to the Definitive Edition for $14.99.

"With all 24 previously available DLC extensions included and a wealth of visual improvements, Hong Kong has never felt so alive."

Well, with all that dlc it could be worth the "upgrade". Are the visual upgrades just more fog? :P

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@parkurtommo said:

@Heil68 said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Heil68 said:

Already beat on PC, now it's time to play on PS4.

Why.

It's an awesome game and now I get my trophies :D

Dem $30-60whateverthepriceis trophies.

Priceless really :P

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#44 Ben-Buja
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@parkurtommo said:

@mikhail said:

@Ben-Buja said:

You could get the original game for $9,99 on the last steam sale and you'd get much better performance with a mediocre rig.

It regularly went on sale for $3.99-$5, actually. It's been $5 or under on Steam at least four times this year alone. Looks like the old version has been pulled for sale on Steam now in favor of the new Definitive Edition, which is now priced at $29.99. Anyone who owned the previous version of Sleeping Dogs on Steam can "upgrade" to the Definitive Edition for $14.99.

"With all 24 previously available DLC extensions included and a wealth of visual improvements, Hong Kong has never felt so alive."

Well, with all that dlc it could be worth the "upgrade". Are the visual upgrades just more fog? :P

As low as $3,99? Damn...

About the upgrade:

"Now I know that a fair few PC gamers are asking what the difference between the Definitive Edition and the original game with an HD textures pack is - here's your answer: we've redone a lot more than just the textures. We've also reworked character faces, added particle and ambient effects such as volumetric fog. Furthermore, the draw distances have been substantially improved and the gameplay has seen a lot of tweaking. Things that might have been too easy or difficult have been rejigged. Additional breakable enviroment objects have also been introduced so you can have more fun tossing enemy thugs around.

On top of all these technical improvements, you've also got the added bonus of almost all previously released DLC packs - that includes outfits, cars and extra story-extending content that amounts to over three hours of additional story gameplay."

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@Cloud_imperium said:

Thing that you PC Elitists don't understand is , it's locked at 30fps on purpose and not due to hardware limitations . 30fps is for purists . 60fps ruins the experience . Yes , it is more responsive , yes it looks more smoother but 30fps just feels right . It makes the game for cinematic . Now go back to your low budget indie games .

Show me a $400 prebuilt pc running at PS 4 settings with better performance.

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#46 mikhail
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@xerxesbraun said:

@Cloud_imperium said:

Thing that you PC Elitists don't understand is , it's locked at 30fps on purpose and not due to hardware limitations . 30fps is for purists . 60fps ruins the experience . Yes , it is more responsive , yes it looks more smoother but 30fps just feels right . It makes the game for cinematic . Now go back to your low budget indie games .

Show me a $400 prebuilt pc running at PS 4 settings with better performance.

Hello, Cranler.

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#48  Edited By EducatingU_PCMR
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City looks dull without the bloom from the neon signs and that fog uh, I'll keep the "standard edition", thanks.

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#49 GhoX
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Putting aside "lofty console goals" like 60 fps and 1080p, a game that can't consistently stay at 30 fps or above should not be allowed to release.

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#50 NFJSupreme
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Just to throw this out there this is $60 on console, $30 on pc. Twice as much for half the performance. Smh