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#1 Jelley0
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Will Sega ever make another good game?

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#2 Malta_1980
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ahhh your title brought back so many great memories of the 16bit era :)

Too bad Dreamcast wasnt supported as it deserved by gamers & devs.. such a great console as were Master System, Mega Drive and even Gamegear..

Saturn & Nomadhhmmm could have been supported/planned better..

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#3 sonicthemegaman
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Valkryia Chronicles?
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Will Sega ever make another good game?

Jelley0

Yakuza and hopefully a new after burner the one at the arcade is sooo goddamn addictive,Aswell as outrun 3 but a man can only dream of the latter 2 right now :(

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#6 Malta_1980
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Will Sega ever make another good game?

Jelley0

VC, Yakuza are great titles... VC2 & Bayonetta look interesting.. the real question is when will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises..

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#7 Jelley0
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Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

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#8 Malta_1980
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Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

Jelley0

by the looks of it, not soon...

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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Will Sega ever make another good game?

VC, Yakuza are great titles... VC2 & Bayonetta look interesting.. the real question is when will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises..

Nintendo has new IP's... :?
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#10 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="freakbabyblues-"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Will Sega ever make another good game?

VC, Yakuza are great titles... VC2 & Bayonetta look interesting.. the real question is when will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises..

Nintendo has new IP's... :?

Such as...?
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#11 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Will Sega ever make another good game?

freakbabyblues-

VC, Yakuza are great titles... VC2 & Bayonetta look interesting.. the real question is when will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises..

Nintendo has new IP's... :?

care to list the ones for Wii? mind you I said games not mini 'tests' for the motion sensing like WiiSports or else sorry excuse for training like Wii Fit..

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#12 Jelley0
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Nintendo is what Genesisn't.

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well they developed my GOTY....Empire total war. yes its made by the creative assembly but they are owned by sega...they are a first party dev to sega so to speak. as long as sega continue to write checques for CA to make total war games...sega will be doing fine by me. looking forward to napoleon also.
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#14 KratosTwin
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I know it's highly unlikely. but I would love to see Sega re-enter the console race.

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#15 chocolate1325
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SEGA have made some good games recently but not any good Sonic games.

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Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

Jelley0
I would prefer it if they kept it this way. It's what makes them different and besides, those sequels are always great. I wouldn't want to see Nintendo make FPS games like the others...
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#17 Rob-Belmont
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Valkyria 2 and Bayonetta come to mind.

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[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

Theguy56
I would prefer it if they kept it this way. It's what makes them different and besides, those sequels are always great. I wouldn't want to see Nintendo make FPS games like the others...

New Ip doesn't mean FPS... look how awesome Pikmin turned out! But yeah, Nintendo hasn't got a REAL new IP since 2001 (Unless you count Geist, but no, please don't)
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#19 h575309
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

ahhh your title brought back so many great memories of the 16bit era :)

Too bad Dreamcast wasnt supported as it deserved by gamers & devs.. such a great console as were Master System, Mega Drive and even Gamegear..

Saturn & Nomadhhmmm could have been supported/planned better..

Dreamcast was one of my favorite systems ever. Nobody friggin bought it, which was a shame. It had some awesome games, and probably my most memorable launch of any system.
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#20 manicfoot
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I think Sega are stil great devs but for some reason they decide to advertise their rubbish games. Valkyria Chronicles got no love from them :(

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well they developed my GOTY....Empire total war. yes its made by the creative assembly but they are owned by sega...they are a first party dev to sega so to speak. as long as sega continue to write checques for CA to make total war games...sega will be doing fine by me. looking forward to napoleon also.osan0


Still, Sega didn't develop it lol, they just published it. CA did all the "developing" :)

Ninty have no new IPs really worth mentioning, so I don't see why this thread exists quite frankly.

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#22 Jelley0
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[QUOTE="osan0"]well they developed my GOTY....Empire total war. yes its made by the creative assembly but they are owned by sega...they are a first party dev to sega so to speak. as long as sega continue to write checques for CA to make total war games...sega will be doing fine by me. looking forward to napoleon also.raynimrod



Still, Sega didn't develop it lol, they just published it. CA did all the "developing" :)

Ninty have no new IPs really worth mentioning, so I don't see why this thread exists quite frankly.

Because the thread was originally about Sega, not Nintendo's IPs.

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#23 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="osan0"]well they developed my GOTY....Empire total war. yes its made by the creative assembly but they are owned by sega...they are a first party dev to sega so to speak. as long as sega continue to write checques for CA to make total war games...sega will be doing fine by me. looking forward to napoleon also.Jelley0



Still, Sega didn't develop it lol, they just published it. CA did all the "developing" :)

Ninty have no new IPs really worth mentioning, so I don't see why this thread exists quite frankly.

Because the thread was originally about Sega, not Nintendo's IPs.



Read the title again and read the OP please. You may see the relevance of Nintendo's mention.

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#24 Jelley0
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Yeah it involved Nintendo, not Nintendo's Ips from the beginning.

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#25 jwsoul
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Valkryia Chronicles?sonicthemegaman
this and many others. They are getting pretty darn good to be fair to Sega.
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#26 CaptainHarley
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sega actually make some pretty good games these days, theyre just terrible at presenting a good front because they fall back on sonic, which completely sucks. id love to see them pushing valkyria chronicles but i guess it doesnt cash in as nicely.

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#27 Shinobi120
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Sega just needs to bring on Shenmue 3.

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#28 ogvampire
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Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

Jelley0

people's complaints about Nintendo having to release new IP's is silly. think about it

they have a great set of AAA franchises... of which they release new iterations that are AAA as well.... whats the problem here, you dont like AAA games?

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#29 Burning-Sludge
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Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

Jelley0

Wii sports franchise. I would ask if you are happy now but I am sure you are not because there isn't a bunch of Nintendo games with M-ratings.

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Will Sega ever make another good game?

Jelley0
Sega are actually doing great on many levels if you can ignore Sonic Team. Some of the games they have published and are coming out this gen have been amazing or look great like, Condemned 1 & 2, Madworld, Alpha Protocol, End of Eternity, Bayonetta, Infinite Line etc. Not only that but they have made some great titles like the amazing Valkyria Chronicles with an upcoming PSP sequel, Yakuza not to mention the kickass megadrive / Genesis collection for the 360 and PS3. So actually for me they are doing 100 times better then last gen, now if Sonic team would just have died with Yuji Naka leaving then it would all be good.
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#31 banana-pie
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lol the dreamcast produced more quality games in its 2 year life cycle than any other console in history

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[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

ogvampire

people's complaints about Nintendo having to release new IP's is silly. think about it

they have a great set of AAA franchises... of which they release new iterations that are AAA as well.... whats the problem here, you dont like AAA games?

Here's a list of first-party exclusive, non-downloadable, already released games that were new IPs created this gen.

(I may have missed one or two, but I think this is it.)

Make of this what you will.

Sony

InFamous

Resistance

Heavenly Sword

Little Big Planet

Eye of Judgement

Lair

Motorstorm

White Knight Chronicles

Nintendo

Wii Sports

Wii Fit

Wii Play

Wii Music

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Endless Ocean

Microsoft

Too Human

Crackdown

Blue Dragon

Infinite Undiscovery

Lost Odyssey

Kameo

Ninety-Nine Nights

Ninja Blade

Viva Pinata

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#33 gonzalezj1
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care to list the ones for Wii? mind you I said games not mini 'tests' for the motion sensing like WiiSports or else sorry excuse for training like Wii Fit.Malta_1980

The reason I included Wii Sports, etc. is because if you decide to remove the games you don't like (or even genuinely crappy games) then you'd have to remove at least half of everyone's list and then it gets all subjective and messy and nobody's happy.

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#34 Totalgym9000
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[QUOTE="gonzalezj1"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

people's complaints about Nintendo having to release new IP's is silly. think about it

they have a great set of AAA franchises... of which they release new iterations that are AAA as well.... whats the problem here, you dont like AAA games?

Here's a list of first-party exclusive, non-downloadable, already released games that were new IPs created this gen.

(I may have missed one or two, but I think this is it.)

Make of this what you will.

Sony

InFamous

Resistance

Heavenly Sword

Little Big Planet

Eye of Judgement

Lair

Motorstorm

White Knight Chronicles

Nintendo

Wii Sports

Wii Fit

Wii Play

Wii Music

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Endless Ocean

Microsoft

Too Human

Crackdown

Blue Dragon

Infinite Undiscovery

Lost Odyssey

Kameo

Ninety-Nine Nights

Ninja Blade

Viva Pinata

Umm How about the 2 best new IPs created this gen Uncharted and gears of war?
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[QUOTE="freakbabyblues-"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

VC, Yakuza are great titles... VC2 & Bayonetta look interesting.. the real question is when will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises..

Malta_1980

Nintendo has new IP's... :?

care to list the ones for Wii? mind you I said games not mini 'tests' for the motion sensing like WiiSports or else sorry excuse for training like Wii Fit..

Cosmic Walker, Endless Ocean. There's 2, what do I win?
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#36 Rip870
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Will Sega ever make another good game?

Jelley0
They have to get back to 2d.Sega dosent have a clue how to make a good 3d game.
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#37 mariokart64fan
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well these aint 20 yrs old

pikmin 3

wii play

wii sports

wii music

wii sports resort

wii fit plus

wii fit

excite bots

excite truck

wario land shake it

wario ware inc

disaster day of crisis

giest

so ya , i dont think nintendo needs new ones they just need good ones ,

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#38 gonzalezj1
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[QUOTE="Totalgym9000"][QUOTE="gonzalezj1"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

people's complaints about Nintendo having to release new IP's is silly. think about it

they have a great set of AAA franchises... of which they release new iterations that are AAA as well.... whats the problem here, you dont like AAA games?

Here's a list of first-party exclusive, non-downloadable, already released games that were new IPs created this gen.

(I may have missed one or two, but I think this is it.)

Make of this what you will.

Sony

InFamous

Resistance

Heavenly Sword

Little Big Planet

Eye of Judgement

Lair

Motorstorm

White Knight Chronicles

Nintendo

Wii Sports

Wii Fit

Wii Play

Wii Music

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Endless Ocean

Microsoft

Too Human

Crackdown

Blue Dragon

Infinite Undiscovery

Lost Odyssey

Kameo

Ninety-Nine Nights

Ninja Blade

Viva Pinata

Umm How about the 2 best new IPs created this gen Uncharted and gears of war?

Well, Gears of War isn't exclusive (it's on the PC) and, honestly, I'm not sure how I missed Uncharted.
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Will Sega ever make another good game?

Jelley0

almost all of segas games are amazing still, only one that has fallen from its previous glory days is Sonic.

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#40 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="Totalgym9000"][QUOTE="gonzalezj1"]

Here's a list of first-party exclusive, non-downloadable, already released games that were new IPs created this gen.

(I may have missed one or two, but I think this is it.)

Make of this what you will.

Sony

InFamous

Resistance

Heavenly Sword

Little Big Planet

Eye of Judgement

Lair

Motorstorm

White Knight Chronicles

Nintendo

Wii Sports

Wii Fit

Wii Play

Wii Music

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Endless Ocean

Microsoft

Too Human

Crackdown

Blue Dragon

Infinite Undiscovery

Lost Odyssey

Kameo

Ninety-Nine Nights

Ninja Blade

Viva Pinata

gonzalezj1

Umm How about the 2 best new IPs created this gen Uncharted and gears of war?

Well, Gears of War isn't exclusive (it's on the PC) and, honestly, I'm not sure how I missed Uncharted.

gears 2 is exclusive.

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#41 Willy105
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Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

Jelley0
Haven't they been doing that non stop this gen?
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#42 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

gonzalezj1

people's complaints about Nintendo having to release new IP's is silly. think about it

they have a great set of AAA franchises... of which they release new iterations that are AAA as well.... whats the problem here, you dont like AAA games?

Here's a list of first-party exclusive, non-downloadable, already released games that were new IPs created this gen.

(I may have missed one or two, but I think this is it.)

Make of this what you will.

Sony

InFamous

Resistance

Heavenly Sword

Little Big Planet

Eye of Judgement

Lair

Motorstorm

White Knight Chronicles

Nintendo

Wii Sports

Wii Fit

Wii Play

Wii Music

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Endless Ocean

Microsoft

Too Human

Crackdown

Blue Dragon

Infinite Undiscovery

Lost Odyssey

Kameo

Ninety-Nine Nights

Ninja Blade

Viva Pinata

cool... what does this have to do with my statement?

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#43 LTomlinson21
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Bring back support for the Dreamcast! Seriously, I loved that console.
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[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

Ok then. When will Nintendo start releasing new IP's and not sequels/titles for 20+ year old franchises?

Willy105

Haven't they been doing that non stop this gen?

Nintendo had 41 New IPs on the DS. They have 14 new IPs for the Wii not released but announced They only had 3 released because on the Wii not counting Wiiware. I count Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Wii Chess, and Wii Music as one IP.

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#45 gonzalezj1
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gears 2 is exclusive.

dragonfly110

But Gears of War isn't an exclusive IP. And we were talking about IPs, not games.

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#46 gonzalezj1
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[QUOTE="gonzalezj1"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

people's complaints about Nintendo having to release new IP's is silly. think about it

they have a great set of AAA franchises... of which they release new iterations that are AAA as well.... whats the problem here, you dont like AAA games?

ogvampire

Here's a list of first-party exclusive, non-downloadable, already released games that were new IPs created this gen.

(I may have missed one or two, but I think this is it.)

Make of this what you will.

Sony

InFamous

Resistance

Heavenly Sword

Little Big Planet

Eye of Judgement

Lair

Motorstorm

White Knight Chronicles

Nintendo

Wii Sports

Wii Fit

Wii Play

Wii Music

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Endless Ocean

Microsoft

Too Human

Crackdown

Blue Dragon

Infinite Undiscovery

Lost Odyssey

Kameo

Ninety-Nine Nights

Ninja Blade

Viva Pinata

cool... what does this have to do with my statement?

It's a tangential continuing of the conversation in which you were taking a part. I apologize if I offended you by including your comment in a quote.
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#47 nintendoboy16
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I think Sega would get more respect if they give Sonic to Dimps. Dimps seem to have better ideas on what Sonic fans want.

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Conduit :)?

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#49 ogvampire
Member since 2008 • 9123 Posts

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="gonzalezj1"]

Here's a list of first-party exclusive, non-downloadable, already released games that were new IPs created this gen.

(I may have missed one or two, but I think this is it.)

Make of this what you will.

Sony

InFamous

Resistance

Heavenly Sword

Little Big Planet

Eye of Judgement

Lair

Motorstorm

White Knight Chronicles

Nintendo

Wii Sports

Wii Fit

Wii Play

Wii Music

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Endless Ocean

Microsoft

Too Human

Crackdown

Blue Dragon

Infinite Undiscovery

Lost Odyssey

Kameo

Ninety-Nine Nights

Ninja Blade

Viva Pinata

gonzalezj1

cool... what does this have to do with my statement?

It's a tangential continuing of the conversation in which you were taking a part. I apologize if I offended you by including your comment in a quote.

ah. i gotcha...

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#50 TurtlePerson2
Member since 2006 • 287 Posts

Sega had trouble transitioning to 3-d games. Nintendo has had trouble transitioning to story driven games. When it comes to narrative, Nintendo games are practically a decade behind. Most Nintendo games don't even feature voice acting.