PSN+ is a FAIL

True that Sony is looking to milk a little extra cash from PS3 owners, but if they play it right and keep what's already available free, I won't have an issue. I don't play games online much anyway, so if they do charge for it, I'm not fussed.

Level 1 try harder. If Sony does charge to play online it wouldn't be until next generation. PSN Plus+ is a bonus for Sony to try and get more revenue while keeping the core gamers happy with free online play.

Hey Lvl.1 number 10234! Welcome to System Wars.

"The current PSN features will remain free. We are still very committed to PSN as a free gaming service and are certainly not planning on reducing this service following the launch of PlayStation Plus."

Straight from the FAQ.

Try harder, and next time post with your real account.

Slashkice

How is PSN+ a fail? It sounds like a reasonable service with some cool perks, and at the time you don't have to pay for it to play online so until it is announced that you will, it is a non-issue.

Im not sure if people understand that the free service will always be free, its an optionif you want to go PSN+. go search around level 1 user

"The current PSN features will remain free. We are still very committed to PSN as a free gaming service and are certainly not planning on reducing this service following the launch of PlayStation Plus."

Straight from the FAQ.

Try harder, and next time post with your real account.

Slashkice

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

"The current PSN features will remain free. We are still very committed to PSN as a free gaming service and are certainly not planning on reducing this service following the launch of PlayStation Plus."

Straight from the FAQ.

Try harder, and next time post with your real account.

Super_Toad_64

Some do go back on their words, but not all. There's not reason to think that Sony will make their entire online not free.

PSN won't be paid atleast this generation if not never. In Live MS take care of hosting all game servers in PSN they are hosted by developers or publishers and they got deal that there wont be subscriptions. If they change that they wuld need to renegotiente all the aggedments with all developers

"The current PSN features will remain free. We are still very committed to PSN as a free gaming service and are certainly not planning on reducing this service following the launch of PlayStation Plus."

Straight from the FAQ.

Try harder, and next time post with your real account.

psn+ is NOT mandatory how the hell is it a fail

soo basically this year

PS3 is turning into Xbox

Xbox is turning into Wii

Wii is turning into SNES

huh

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no way Sony would make basic online pay-for service

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Speculation, speculation and even more speculation. All I care is that if I turn my PS3 on right now I will enjoy FREE online gaming.

they wont/cant do that till next gen. psn+ is sonys last resort to get peple to pay. after psn+ fails they will make you pay to play online.

i was hoping sony would force ms to offer free xboxlive. but turns out with ms making a killing off gold members the greed in sony has forced them to charge. but they cant this gen because imo. psn isnt ready because almost any game that i own on both consoles and try to play them online. the lag in ps3 version is really clear

When PSN+ fails they're going to cpoy+paste XBL model....

"Lulz how do you know PSN+ is going to fail, do you have a time machine!"

-Seeing how PS3 owners are reluctant to pay for online (especially how cows hate XBL in SW), Sony will get little money from this.

meh, idc what people do with the money that they earn.

it gives you discounts and free content. How is it a rip.

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

Level 1 try harder. If Sony does charge to play online it wouldn't be until next generation. PSN Plus+ is a bonus for Sony to try and get more revenue while keeping the core gamers happy with free online play.

AncientDozer

I 100% believe Sony will be charging for online play next generation. Microsoft is not going to do a business model like Sony next generation because it forces people who want to try online or hardcore competitive players to buy XBL Gold. As much as Lemmings love to talk up cross game chat and party system, I doubt XBL Gold would have nearly as many subscribers if the core online was free. Sony is trying to make money but also get multi-console owners to choose PSN over Live. Since CGC isn't a part of PSN+ they will most likely release it for free to get multi console owners away from Live.

Any paid online gaming service is fail.i5750at4Ghz

Any paid online gaming service is fail.i5750at4Ghz

I don't know why I'm responding to this thread, but Sony has said a number of times that everything that is free now will always be free, including playing games you already paid for.

Sony will never be able to charge for their online service. The main attraction of PSN is that its free. I think they will get the message loud and clear that PS3 gamers arent willing to pay for online when nobody subscribes to PSN+

Buuuut it won't.

Alt fail.

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Playing online for the PS3 is free for now. Reason I said for now because they also said rumble was last gen and they would support BC including PS2 BC. We just have to wait and see how this PSN+ service turns out.

looks like another coward to scared to say stuff like this in your regular account :lol:

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

Level 1 try harder. If Sony does charge to play online it wouldn't be until next generation. PSN Plus+ is a bonus for Sony to try and get more revenue while keeping the core gamers happy with free online play.

I 100% believe Sony will be charging for online play next generation. Microsoft is not going to do a business model like Sony next generation because it forces people who want to try online or hardcore competitive players to buy XBL Gold. As much as Lemmings love to talk up cross game chat and party system, I doubt XBL Gold would have nearly as many subscribers if the core online was free. Sony is trying to make money but also get multi-console owners to choose PSN over Live. Since CGC isn't a part of PSN+ they will most likely release it for free to get multi console owners away from Live.

so it's fail because you have a hunch they might charge to play online in the futureBrainkiller05

Wait...

I thought demos would be free to play even without PSN+?

Wait...

I thought demos would be free to play even without PSN+?

amaneuvering

Any paid online gaming service is fail.i5750at4Ghz

This, especially when the basis for the online play is peer 2 peer. If MS or Sony wanted to dish out for high quality dedicated servers, complete with server lists and custom settings for every game I would understand either of them charging for online play. But, they don't and won't do that, so online play should be free, as we, the gamers, provide all the bandwidth to play them.

Nothing wrong with a content based subscription, as it doesn't withhold anything from the user base, only ads to what they already offer.

I won't subscribe, but I'll still be playing online all the time.

I predict next gen, MS will have to make its online play free if it wants to remain competitive, not the other way around.

It looks like sooner rather than later where going to have to pay to play our ps3 games online given the direction sony's heading in, given that demo's and exclusive content have been restricted to PSN+ with the added lure of free games once PSN+ gains enough subcribers expect the bombshell to drop that well all have to pay to play online only with PSN+ subcriptions. I know im going to get slated with comments like "didnt know you was a Sony exec" + "Teh crystal ball" etc but i think currently its clear to see Sony is looking at that big bundle of cash Microsoft is getting for their millions of xbox gold subscribers like a love sick puppy.Super_Toad_64

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]so it's fail because you have a hunch they might charge to play online in the futuremonson21502

But, Live has lag and costs money?

P2P gaming is often laggy, or more prone to lag, because most people don't have the bandwidth to support the amount of players in a game. That's why people always say "with proper netcode p2p is fine." Because if they can reduce the amount of data needed to be transmitted and received for each player to play, they bring the bandwidth requirement closer to what average users have available.

How is PSN+ a fail? It sounds like a reasonable service with some cool perks, and at the time you don't have to pay for it to play online so until it is announced that you will, it is a non-issue.

DarkGamer007

Because maybe there's a slight possibility that you might have to pay to play online in the future.

I didn't know you were a Sony exec.....Oh, and I think your Crystal Ball is on da fritz.

Why consider it a fail when it hasn't even rolled out yet? I have no interest in it, but I might still try it out, if only to have an educated opinion about it.

Yea it wont fail at all...since its completely optional. Everything you get with PSN Free right now will stay exactly the same.

PSN + is just bonus stuff if you want to subscribe to it...which I will since I have no issue paying for that content at all. I can buy a few PS1 games that ive wanted and I traded my LBP long ago. I will def subscribe and if I dont like it down the road, I can cancel it and still play my games online!

This is completely different than Xbox live. Live you must have if you want to play online and download certain demos etc.

Made an account just for that huh? Sony's online play has always been free, that will not change in my opinion.Heil68