PSN hack lets users unban themselves, ban others

I have to see it to believe it so untill that I will take what hackers say as a grain of salt + its uselss who is the if=diot who will give his PS3 ID to anyone anyway lol.

I wonder if the hackers actually believe the **** coming out of their mouths.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

why do people find it so hard to believe that hackers can do this? there are some really talanted hackers that i garuntee this would be a piece of cake for and sony just pissed them off.....

babyeatermax

It certainly seems that way. I think they're a bit too confident for their own good.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"] exactly, people who say that are either A: hardcore fanboys that think their beloved console maker is god or B: ignorant people who know nothing on how technology works and or advances, I bet they never even heard of ethical hacking

Ilikemyname420

:lol: That minute of a minority of ethical hackers live in the shadow of what is the multi-billion dollar hacked/pirated game market Mt. Everest.

Lol. What else are they in it for? Let see.. Banning peoples PSN accounts - Check. Whats next?

Stealing peoples credit card info - Incoming. :) I really doubt they went through all this to use Linux on their PS3s.

I have to see it to believe it so untill that I will take what hackers say as a grain of salt + its uselss who is the if=diot who will give his PS3 ID to anyone anyway lol.

Kashiwaba

I call BS on this. Since this debacle began, PS3 hackers have claimed to be able to do a lot of things, and the vast majority of those things have turned out to be untrue or are simply blocked now that Sony is taking a stronger stance against the hack. If we believed everything the hackers said, then all credit card info would have been stolen, PSN would have been hacked, oh, and people forget this big one: hackers initially claimed that Sony wouldn't even be able to ban them in the first place. Yeah, THAT turned out to be true. :roll:Mrmccormo

You are confusing the methods of hacking. On a hacked PS3 you can run software that intercepts transmission with PSN and fakes a legit console.

To hack the CC info etc. you would need to hack the PSN database. Different method and system.

[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"][QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

:lol: That minute of a minority of ethical hackers live in the shadow of what is the multi-billion dollar hacked/pirated game market Mt. Everest.

Crossel777

Lol. What else are they in it for? Let see.. Banning peoples PSN accounts - Check. Whats next?

Stealing peoples credit card info - Incoming. :) I really doubt they went through all this to use Linux on their PS3s.

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]I call BS on this. Since this debacle began, PS3 hackers have claimed to be able to do a lot of things, and the vast majority of those things have turned out to be untrue or are simply blocked now that Sony is taking a stronger stance against the hack. If we believed everything the hackers said, then all credit card info would have been stolen, PSN would have been hacked, oh, and people forget this big one: hackers initially claimed that Sony wouldn't even be able to ban them in the first place. Yeah, THAT turned out to be true. :roll:haberman13

You are confusing the methods of hacking. On a hacked PS3 you can run software that intercepts transmission with PSN and fakes a legit console.

To hack the CC info etc. you would need to hack the PSN database. Different method and system.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"] exactly, people who say that are either A: hardcore fanboys that think their beloved console maker is god or B: ignorant people who know nothing on how technology works and or advances, I bet they never even heard of ethical hacking

Ilikemyname420

:lol: That minute of a minority of ethical hackers live in the shadow of what is the multi-billion dollar hacked/pirated game market Mt. Everest.

I've got billions of bucks backing me up, buddy.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]I call BS on this. Since this debacle began, PS3 hackers have claimed to be able to do a lot of things, and the vast majority of those things have turned out to be untrue or are simply blocked now that Sony is taking a stronger stance against the hack. If we believed everything the hackers said, then all credit card info would have been stolen, PSN would have been hacked, oh, and people forget this big one: hackers initially claimed that Sony wouldn't even be able to ban them in the first place. Yeah, THAT turned out to be true. :roll:Mrmccormo

You are confusing the methods of hacking. On a hacked PS3 you can run software that intercepts transmission with PSN and fakes a legit console.

To hack the CC info etc. you would need to hack the PSN database. Different method and system.

Thank you Geohotz for your contribution to gaming.

I can't believe people on here actually said they were on Geohotz side.

Blazerdt47

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

You are confusing the methods of hacking. On a hacked PS3 you can run software that intercepts transmission with PSN and fakes a legit console.

To hack the CC info etc. you would need to hack the PSN database. Different method and system.

Ilikemyname420

[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"][QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

:lol: That minute of a minority of ethical hackers live in the shadow of what is the multi-billion dollar hacked/pirated game market Mt. Everest.

TheMoreYouOwn

I've got billions of bucks backing me up, buddy.

If true, it begs the question: What other types of user info do the hackers have access to?

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"] You are supremely deluded if you really think the majority of hackers are in it just to pirate games.... Ilikemyname420

I've got billions of bucks backing me up, buddy.

You are correct, but that game didn't just torrent itself or whatever the situation might be, including hardware. At some point along it's history, there was a hack involved, and someone who knew full well what that hack would lead to. I generally don't always go into full details on these sorts of things because I would hope common sense would do the job for me.

[QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

why do people find it so hard to believe that hackers can do this? there are some really talanted hackers that i garuntee this would be a piece of cake for and sony just pissed them off.....

Deadbeatcobra

There's also a mentality among some here that "hackers" have some kind of skills not shared by those who work for the big three. The only thing a hacker has that any other software people don't is malicious intent.

[QUOTE="babyeatermax"][QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

why do people find it so hard to believe that hackers can do this? there are some really talanted hackers that i garuntee this would be a piece of cake for and sony just pissed them off.....

icyseanfitz

geo is an exception, if you think he is the crem de la crem of hackers you live in fantasy world my friend, most hackers are unknown everyday people that like computers and how they work....which is why software advances because of these people, hell bill gates started as a hacker. as for Sony staying two steps ahead what? if they where this debate would never be occurring

[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"]

[QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

why do people find it so hard to believe that hackers can do this? there are some really talanted hackers that i garuntee this would be a piece of cake for and sony just pissed them off.....

Pug-Nasty

There's also a mentality among some here that "hackers" have some kind of skills not shared by those who work for the big three. The only thing a hacker has that any other software people don't is malicious intent.

So giant mega corporations trying to take every dime we have = good intent.

hackers adding functionality to our consoles free of charge = malicious intent.

Ill make sure to remember that.

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"] theres a mentality in system wars that if your not working for sony/devs/micro, then you dont know what the hell you talking bout and can never match the gods of the industry, i find it hilarious,

markinthedark

There's also a mentality among some here that "hackers" have some kind of skills not shared by those who work for the big three. The only thing a hacker has that any other software people don't is malicious intent.

So giant mega corporations trying to take every dime we have = good intent.

hackers adding functionality to our consoles free of charge = malicious intent.

Ill make sure to remember that.

Hackers are cheat the system!! Sony needs to pay their million employees with the stuff they sell and they have to pay their extremely high taxes for being a huge corporation! Hackers try to get around not paying, which is STEALING! They should be put in JAIL!

Sony knew this was possible, aside from maybe the banning of other systems by hackers...but seriously who is gonna give out there systems ID?Jynxzor

Soooo is free still better?

I wonder if the hackers actually believe the **** coming out of their mouths.

Chutebox

lol is the only appropriate response.

Soooo is free still better?

SkyRaid

ps: if you had taken your time to read you would have noticed that they need to put an official console id(from another console which would mean a) they bought another console or b) asked some one else to give them theirs. So they can't just make a random id.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

There's also a mentality among some here that "hackers" have some kind of skills not shared by those who work for the big three. The only thing a hacker has that any other software people don't is malicious intent.

bbkkristian

So giant mega corporations trying to take every dime we have = good intent.

hackers adding functionality to our consoles free of charge = malicious intent.

Ill make sure to remember that.

Hackers are cheat the system!! Sony needs to pay their million employees with the stuff they sell and they have to pay their extremely high taxes for being a huge corporation! Hackers try to get around not paying, which is STEALING! They should be put in JAIL!

Your gonna have a hard time ever getting me to care about a giant mega corporations lost profits. Its not like Sony is gonna go bankrupt, they should take the hit, consider it a learning experience, and better luck next time.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I wonder if the hackers actually believe the **** coming out of their mouths.

shinrabanshou

Amen, just like Sony executives. I hear they spend all their free time at the homeless shelter volunteering... and never pay themselves a dime in salary over what they need to get by. If only we could all be as saintly as high up executives at enormous global corporations.

Honestly, in the story of Robin Hood.... which character did you think was the villain?

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

So giant mega corporations trying to take every dime we have = good intent.

hackers adding functionality to our consoles free of charge = malicious intent.

Ill make sure to remember that.

markinthedark

Hackers are cheat the system!! Sony needs to pay their million employees with the stuff they sell and they have to pay their extremely high taxes for being a huge corporation! Hackers try to get around not paying, which is STEALING! They should be put in JAIL!

Your gonna have a hard time ever getting me to care about a giant mega corporations lost profits. Its not like Sony is gonna go bankrupt, they should take the hit, consider it a learning experience, and better luck next time.

Im really tired of these idiot hackers. Why would any company sit by idly and let you cost them money or consumers by doing something illegal with their product(s)? The people hacking have no excuse to use for the things they are doing. If you want to mod/hack your console for fun thats fine. But once you start using those hacks to pirate games or cause grief for online players thats just wrong. But of course some morons in here will side with the hackers for sticking it to the Man aka Sony.smh

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

Hackers are cheat the system!! Sony needs to pay their million employees with the stuff they sell and they have to pay their extremely high taxes for being a huge corporation! Hackers try to get around not paying, which is STEALING! They should be put in JAIL!

bbkkristian

Your gonna have a hard time ever getting me to care about a giant mega corporations lost profits. Its not like Sony is gonna go bankrupt, they should take the hit, consider it a learning experience, and better luck next time.

Im not worried about my new 160GB version, i would never even dream about modding or hacking something i get my stuff legit, thats why i work.

That's pretty ridiculous. Isn't Sony a multinational corporation with extensive resources? I find it commendable that these people are managing to thwart Sony's plans and are continuing to give Sony trouble.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

I wonder if the hackers actually believe the **** coming out of their mouths.

markinthedark

Amen, just like Sony executives. I hear they spend all their free time at the homeless shelter volunteering... and never pay themselves a dime in salary over what they need to get by. If only we could all be as saintly as high up executives at enormous global corporations.

Honestly, in the story of Robin Hood.... which character did you think was the villain?

I realise custom firmware may provide functions that are not present in official firmware. I'm also aware that releasing of the PS3 keys and custom firmware enables piracy and cheating, to the detriment of the games industry. I'm aware that when someone purchase hardware they own said hardware. I'm also aware that one does not own the firmware and it's only licensed. I know what's written in the DMCA. I'm assuming the vast majority of people will use these hacks for piracy, either of PS3 games or via emulators, despite that there'll be a portion of people trying to use it for actual homebrew. My impression of the mannerisms and motivations of some hackers is based on the public persona they present.

I'm capable of discerning moral grey.

And overall I think that from a utilitarian perspective the actions of George Hotz, failoverflow and others, adversely affect more people than they do benefit.

Your gonna have a hard time ever getting me to care about a giant mega corporations lost profits.

markinthedark

I think we would have a hard time getting you to care about anything other than yourself.

That's pretty ridiculous. Isn't Sony a multinational corporation with extensive resources? I find it commendable that these people are managing to thwart Sony's plans and are continuing to give Sony trouble.

Hexagon_777

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] So if you owned Sony, and you were losing thousands, maybe millions of dollars to hackers, you would be perfectly fine with that? They are stealing all of the games you offer on your digital store, you're just going to let them do that? Just because they are a million dollar corporation doesn't mean that money is worthless.AncientDozer

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

Your gonna have a hard time ever getting me to care about a giant mega corporations lost profits. Its not like Sony is gonna go bankrupt, they should take the hit, consider it a learning experience, and better luck next time.

coltsfan4ever

If i owned sony that means i would be a multi billionaire.... i probably wouldnt care that much.... because i would be too busy wiping my butt with hundred dollar bills. Thats like asking if you had a million dollars, and you dropped a $10 bill.... would you care? I wouldnt. I would just be like "whoops my bad, guess ill be more careful next time" and continue having sex with a giant pile of money.

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] So if you owned Sony, and you were losing thousands, maybe millions of dollars to hackers, you would be perfectly fine with that? They are stealing all of the games you offer on your digital store, you're just going to let them do that? Just because they are a million dollar corporation doesn't mean that money is worthless.markinthedark

If i owned sony that means i would be a multi billionaire.... i probably wouldnt care that much.... because i would be too busy wiping my butt with hundred dollar bills. Thats like asking if you had a million dollars, and you dropped a $10 bill.... would you care? I wouldnt. I would just be like "whoops my bad, guess ill be more careful next time" and continue having sex with a giant pile of money.

That's pretty ridiculous. Isn't Sony a multinational corporation with extensive resources? I find it commendable that these people are managing to thwart Sony's plans and are continuing to give Sony trouble.

Hexagon_777

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] So if you owned Sony, and you were losing thousands, maybe millions of dollars to hackers, you would be perfectly fine with that? They are stealing all of the games you offer on your digital store, you're just going to let them do that? Just because they are a million dollar corporation doesn't mean that money is worthless.markinthedark

If i owned sony that means i would be a multi billionaire.... i probably wouldnt care that much.... because i would be too busy wiping my butt with hundred dollar bills. Thats like asking if you had a million dollars, and you dropped a $10 bill.... would you care? I wouldnt. I would just be like "whoops my bad, guess ill be more careful next time" and continue having sex with a giant pile of money.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]That's pretty ridiculous. Isn't Sony a multinational corporation with extensive resources? I find it commendable that these people are managing to thwart Sony's plans and are continuing to give Sony trouble.lbjkurono23