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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="TheTruthIsREAL"] It is not 2006. cakeorrdeathSo then what are you basing your decision on? I assume you're going by history? If so then you'd be waisting your money getting a PS4 for the next 2 years. I mean that IS what you're trying to say right? MS abondoned the 360 so you're assuming they'll do the same with the XOne? I think its more that Microsoft don't have the strongest first party studios so obtain exclusives by paying other companies for them. They seem happy to do this at the beginning of the generation but its clearly far less prevalent now they have built up a solid install base. Sony on the other hand have strong first party that will make games throughout the generation. Though just like last ten it looks like it might be 2015 before the real top contenders arrive. Sure but like he said it isn't 2006. MS seemed to have worked hard on 1st party studios as well as securing games for the XOne. If he's going to base his decision off the past then why get the PS4 1st? Why not get the XOne the in 2 - 3 years get the PS4. This, of course, if he is soley basing his choice on the past.
I think its more that Microsoft don't have the strongest first party studios so obtain exclusives by paying other companies for them. They seem happy to do this at the beginning of the generation but its clearly far less prevalent now they have built up a solid install base. Sony on the other hand have strong first party that will make games throughout the generation. Though just like last ten it looks like it might be 2015 before the real top contenders arrive. Sure but like he said it isn't 2006. MS seemed to have worked hard on 1st party studios as well as securing games for the XOne. If he's going to base his decision off the past then why get the PS4 1st? Why not get the XOne the in 2 - 3 years get the PS4. This, of course, if he is soley basing his choice on the past. Or he doesn't want to buy 2 consoles.[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="kingtito"] So then what are you basing your decision on? I assume you're going by history? If so then you'd be waisting your money getting a PS4 for the next 2 years. I mean that IS what you're trying to say right? MS abondoned the 360 so you're assuming they'll do the same with the XOne?kingtito
I think its more that Microsoft don't have the strongest first party studios so obtain exclusives by paying other companies for them. They seem happy to do this at the beginning of the generation but its clearly far less prevalent now they have built up a solid install base. Sony on the other hand have strong first party that will make games throughout the generation. Though just like last ten it looks like it might be 2015 before the real top contenders arrive.cakeorrdeathSure but like he said it isn't 2006. MS seemed to have worked hard on 1st party studios as well as securing games for the XOne. If he's going to base his decision off the past then why get the PS4 1st? Why not get the XOne the in 2 - 3 years get the PS4. This, of course, if he is soley basing his choice on the past. Or he doesn't want to buy 2 consoles. Could be though so many good games on both consoles it would be hard. Eventually I plan on getting both but not at launch.
[QUOTE="TheTruthIsREAL"][QUOTE="kingtito"] How does that make any sense? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it widely considered the PS3 didn't have any games for the 1st 2 years or so? Isn't also a fact the 360 has more games? kingtitoIt is not 2006. So then what are you basing your decision on? I assume you're going by history? If so then you'd be waisting your money getting a PS4 for the next 2 years. I mean that IS what you're trying to say right? MS abondoned the 360 so you're assuming they'll do the same with the XOne? I just said it's not 2006. Sony message for it's initial reveal was it was for the gamers. It's all about the games. MS reveal was about the things that catered to casuals more than gamers. It's all about the first impression imo.
[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="TheTruthIsREAL"] It is not 2006. TheTruthIsREALSo then what are you basing your decision on? I assume you're going by history? If so then you'd be waisting your money getting a PS4 for the next 2 years. I mean that IS what you're trying to say right? MS abondoned the 360 so you're assuming they'll do the same with the XOne? I just said it's not 2006. Sony message for it's initial reveal was it was for the gamers. It's all about the games. MS reveal was about the things that catered to casuals more than gamers. It's all about the first impression imo. That's cool. I was just trying to get clarification A) because I'm bored and B) just to have a discussion without all the flaming
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X1 Day one Edition: BF4, Forza 5, CoD: Ghosts, Killer Instinct and my fiance wants Kinect Sports for it too
-will get DR3 at a later date, gotta get the MP games my friends are getting first and will wait to see how Ryse does (interested, but could easily be meh)
PS4 Launch Day: Killzone 4, AC4:BF, DriveClub PSN+ edition (also want Watch Dogs, but will probobly have to wait)
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Overall, it's gonna be an expensive November, good thing I have been saving for it for the last couple years :) Basically getting the X1 because of friends and it has a better exlusive lineup at launch. But the PS4 is going to be my machine for SP games, as they will more than likely be a tiny bit superior on it. And this way, just like last gen, if one version is better than the other I can pick the superior one.
[QUOTE="kingtito"][ Could be though so many good games on both consoles it would be hard. Eventually I plan on getting both but not at launch. cakeorrdeathThis is the first gen when I will have a full time job from the very start of it. I don't think I will be buying more than one console this gen. I won't have the time to play all the good ones on one of them! Finding the time is my problem as well. When I do play I play on my PC. It's the reason why my wife is against me getting the new consoles. She thinks they'll just sit collecting dust and she's probably right lol. Still, having a console in every gen since the Atari 2600 days it'll be hard to pass. It'll feel like I'm missing out on something even if I don't play them. I'll just be content to own them.
such a creative threadJohn_MathersonWe've made the best of it. Why not try and add to the conversation rather than criticising it :)
[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Suppaman100"] If you have your fanboy goggles on, then yes Xbone looks better. In the real world every sane person knows that PS4 is better.Suppaman100
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No. you leave out other factors. Fact 1: PS4 is stronger than Xbone Fact 2: PS4 is cheaper than Xbone And then you have the launch up. And this is entirely dependable on your taste. So this is subjective. After this we can objectively conclude that indeed PS4 is the best choice. But let us be serious here. Look at the factors... Built in new Kinect upgraded. Better XBOX LIVE service than PSN. overall more features on the console.Xbox One just doesn't seem to be able to run complex games the way that PS4 can run complex games.RimacBugattiXBOX ONE games look equally as good as PS4 games. I don't understand why some people just won't admit that. It's as though they refuse to believe it's true. Just look at Killer Instinct, the game has awesome graphics and effects! Look at Crimson Dragon, again awesome graphics and effects! And the same can be said for Titanfall, Ryse, Forza 5, etc. XBOX ONE is a very powerful console, and should not be underestimated based on trivial differences of paper specs compared to PS4.
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No. you leave out other factors. Fact 1: PS4 is stronger than Xbone Fact 2: PS4 is cheaper than Xbone And then you have the launch up. And this is entirely dependable on your taste. So this is subjective. After this we can objectively conclude that indeed PS4 is the best choice. But let us be serious here. Look at the factors... Built in new Kinect upgraded. Better XBOX LIVE service than PSN. overall more features on the console. No point in responding to him. He's adamant power == better. I guess he will agree Xbox>>PS2 and PC>>>>>>>all consolesI'll get a PS4 eventually but not any time soon. Both launch lineups are absolute trash and will be forgotten as soon as some decent games come out. The only exclusives/console exclusives I'm looking forward to are Infamous: SS and Titanfall. At least with the PS4 I know Sony will deliver quality AAAE experiences in the coming years.
[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Suppaman100"] If you have your fanboy goggles on, then yes Xbone looks better. In the real world every sane person knows that PS4 is better.Suppaman100
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But let us be serious here. Look at the facts Fact 1: PS4 is stronger than Xbone Fact 2: PS4 is cheaper than Xbone And then you have the launch up. And this is entirely dependable on your taste. So this is subjective. After this we can objectively conclude that indeed PS4 is the best choice. this actually has a lot of truth to it. yes launch games are opinion based as someone will like one over the other BUT hardware wise, PS4> xbone[QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="kingtito"]But let us be serious here. Look at the facts Fact 1: PS4 is stronger than Xbone Fact 2: PS4 is cheaper than Xbone And then you have the launch up. And this is entirely dependable on your taste. So this is subjective. After this we can objectively conclude that indeed PS4 is the best choice. this actually has a lot of truth to it. yes launch games are opinion based as someone will like one over the other BUT hardware wise, PS4> xbone But OS and Additional hardware wise X1 > PS4. to alot of people thats more improtant than the miniscule graphics difference.Fits you perfectly
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But let us be serious here. Look at the facts Fact 1: PS4 is stronger than Xbone Fact 2: PS4 is cheaper than Xbone And then you have the launch up. And this is entirely dependable on your taste. So this is subjective. After this we can objectively conclude that indeed PS4 is the best choice. this actually has a lot of truth to it. yes launch games are opinion based as someone will like one over the other BUT hardware wise, PS4> xbone A stronger console doesn't automatically make it better. It makes it more powerful but as history has proven power == better. Being cheaper is only temperary as MS will most likely reduce the price if it's not selling as well as it thinks it should. Eventually both will be around the same price point give or take $50. Ultimately console preference subjectiveObjectively PS4 is better. However I'm getting a X1, just prefer Xbox live to PSN.FPSfan1985Screw PSN.
[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]Objectively PS4 is better. However I'm getting a X1, just prefer Xbox live to PSN.kingtitoHow can you say objectively PS4 is better? You can say it's more powerful and that wouldn't be an objective statement but infact true. Objectively the better console is the console that has the games you prefer and the features you want. Power wise you'd say the PS4 is better. Agreed. X1 first ps4 after
[QUOTE="greenaj"]***This is going to be long and I realize not a lot of you will read it, this is for those looking for serious discussion*** I've been loyal to Xbox since the original came out. I've always liked the Xbox better than the PS. Hell, I liked the N64 better than the PS. BUT, when the launch announcements were made, I was seriously thinking about getting a PS4. MS was getting horrible PR and Sony was killing it. I was more worried about long term value of the X1 and the backfire would hurt the X1 long term wise. Not to mention, Bungie is now developing multi-platform games and it's been reported that PS4 has "more power". But after taking a step back from the initial wave of doubt, and taking into consideration my gaming habits, I realized that the X1 was still the right console for me. I don't have the time I did in college to play video games anymore. I only have a few games I'll play a year (the bigger titles). I mostly like FPS (Halo), Action Adventure, RPGs (Elder Scrolls, Dragon Age, Witcher, Fable) and the occasional Sports game. I know Xbox is going to get it's fair share of these titles (multi-platform and exclusives). I'm pumped about Titanfall, I think that is a huge seller for X1. I'm not into anime and it seems like Sony gets WAY more of that stuff, so that doesn't bother me at all. Xbox live has been amazing in the 10 years I've had it. Xbox is great at getting exclusive content rights and doing the "online community" well. Most of my friends are on Xbox, that also factors in. The new functionality with plugging my DTV up to the Xbox + voice commands + apps like Netflix, Hulu etc is going to make my living room an awesome entertainment hub that will hopefully be more streamlined and simple to use (I know my wife will enjoy that). Speaking of the wife, she has fun with the occasional work out and dance games for kinect. We don't have kids yet (we're still young) but she works for a non-profit and there are times we'll have kids come over and spend the night when their family life gets rough. It's fun to have a system that has those kind of games to keep them occupied and having fun. And to be honest, maybe the biggest reason that keeps me away from PS is that I just can't stand its controller. Some people love it, and if you do, that's great. But even since I was 7-8 years old, I didn't like the PS controllers. As a matter of fact, I preferred those huge chunky original xbox controllers to the PS2s. I don't like how PS controllers don't actually have a trigger. I mean, FPS's are one of the biggest markets for video games and PS users shoot with a bumper...just has never made sense to me. For me, the Xbox controllers is about perfect. So with that novel, those are the reasons I ultimately ended up with the pre-order for the X1 and I can't wait until I'm standing in line for a midnight opening!Murderstyle75Very good, well thought out post unlike the majority X1 posts from the usual handful of jackass Lems here. I would probably be right there with you if Microsoft didn't leave such a bad taste in my mouth with the 360 with things like exclusive abandonment mid generation, over priced and disc locked DLC with first party games, refusing to let companies like Epic and Valve release their content free of charge and ignoring digital game bundles that already include the content in the physical world as well as Steam and PSN.
That would also go for the majority of raging and blind loyalist cows that post here as well.
uh oh. It's a Aussiepet thread. The system with the games you like is the better console.Netret0120remembering robotapple's thread
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Xbox 1
confirmed day 1 games
RetailAssassin's Creed IV: Black Flag [4]Ubisoft
RetailBattlefield 4Â [5]DICE
RetailCall of Duty: Ghosts[6]Infinity Ward
Xbox LiveCrimson Dragon [7]Grounding Inc., Land Ho! **
RetailDead Rising 3Â [8]Capcom **
RetailFIFA 14Â [9]EA Sports
RetailFighter Within [10]AMA, Ltd. **
RetailForza Motorsport 5[11]Turn 10 **
RetailJust Dance 2014Â [12]Ubisoft **
Xbox Live /Generous DemoKiller Instinct [13]Double Helix **
RetailLEGO Marvel Super Heroes [14]TT Games
Xbox LiveLocoCycle [15]Twisted Pixel *
RetailMadden NFL 25Â [16]EA Sports
RetailNBA 2K14Â [17]Visual Concepts
RetailNBA Live 14Â [18]EA Sports
RetailNeed for Speed: Rivals [19]Ghost, Criterion
Xbox LivePeggle 2Â [20]PopCap Games *
Xbox LivePowerstar Golf [21]Zoe Mode **
RetailRyse: Son of Rome[22]Crytek **
RetailSkylanders: Swap Force [23]Vicarious Visions
RetailWatch Dogs [24]Ubisoft Montreal
RetailZoo Tycoon [25]Frontier Developments *
RetailZumba Fitness: World Party [26]
Launch window
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RetailKinect Sports: RivalsRare **
Retail / Xbox LiveMinecraft: Xbox One Edition Mojang
Xbox Live / F2PProject SparkMicrosoft *
RetailThe CrewIvory Towers and Reflections
RetailTitanfallRespawn *
RetailWolfenstein: The New OrderMachine Games
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/Xbox_One_Launch_Titles
PS4
confirmed day 1 games
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RetailAssassin's Creed IV: Black Flag [3]Ubisoft
RetailBattlefield 4Â [4]DICEWiki
PSN / F2PBlacklight: RetributionZombie Studios
RetailCall of Duty: Ghosts*Infinity Ward
PSNContrast [5]Compulsion Games *
PSN / F2PDC Universe Online*Sony Online Entertainment *
PSNDiveKick [n]One True Game Studios *
Retail / PS+DriveClub [6]Evolution Studios **
RetailFIFA 14*EA Sports
RetailJust Dance 2014Â [7]Ubisoft
RetailKillzone Shadow Fall [8]Guerilla Games **
RetailKnack [9]SCE Japan StudioWiki **
RetailLEGO Marvel Super Heroes*TT Games
RetailMadden NFL 25*EA Sports
PSNMinecraft [10]4J Studios
RetailNBA 2K14*Visual Concepts
RetailNBA Live 14*EA Sports
RetailNeed for Speed: Rivals*Ghost, Criterion
PSNPinball Arcade [11]FarSight Studion *
PSN / Free DLCPutty SquadSystem 3 Arcade Software *
Pack-inThe PlayRoom [12]Sony **
PSN / PS+Resogun [13]Housemarque **
RetailSkylanders Swap Force*Vicarious Visions
PSNSuper Motherload [14]XGen Studios *
PSNSwitch Galaxy UltraAtomicom *
PSNTiny Brains [15]Spearhead Games *
PSN / F2PWarframe [16]Digital Extremes *
PSN / F2PWar Thunder [17]Gaijin Entertainment *
RetailWatch Dogs*Ubisoft Montreal
launch window
PSNBasement CrawlBloober Team, iFun4all **
PSNCounterSpyDynamighty *
PSNDaylightZombie Studios
PSN / F2PDeep DownCapcom **
PSN / FreeDoki-Doki UniverseHumaNature Studios *
PSNFlowerThatGameCompany (TGC) *
PSNHohokumHoneyslug & Richard Hoge *
RetailinFamous Second SonSucker Punch **
PSNMercenary KingsTribute Games
PSNN++Metanet **
PSNOctodad: Dadliest CatchYoung Horses, Inc. *
PSNOddworld: New 'n' TastyJust Add Water *
PSN / F2PPlanetSide 2Sony Online Entertainment *
PSNPool Nation ExtremeCherry Pop Games *
PSNPrimal Carnage: GenesisLukewarm Media *
PSNRay's the DeadRagtag Studios LLC *
RetailThe CrewIvory Towers and Reflections
RetailThe Order: 1886Ready At Dawn Studios - SCE Santa Monica Studio **
PSNThe WitnessThekla Inc. **
PSNTransistorSupergiant Games **
RetailWolfenstein: The New OrderMachine Games
http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Launch_Titles
Updated: games highlighted with a (2**) beside them = exclusive and (1*) = a multiplatform game not on the other system.
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Based on my experience with owning consoles from both companies, the support policies and practices implemented on them and how they have structured their gaming sectors...Sony is the better game company
Based on my experience with owning consoles from both companies, the quality, quantity and frequency of AAA caliber exclusives...Sony provides the better games.
Based on the upcoming consoles specs, features and price from both companies...Sony is providing the best value for their console.
Based on the upcoming line-ups of games, I can not make a factual judgement because I have not played any of the games but Sony is factually offering a larger amount of confirmed titles available on PS4 compared to xbox 360 so...Sony is providing the larger amount of gaming options for their console
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Based on all of these points there is zero reason to buy an xbox 1 over a PS4 as a gaming console. Â
Lastly, people who are saying the xone libary looks better probably don't know what the PS4 library offers ^ and are just listening to others or they are just a FANatic for MS as a company and want people to feel the same no matter what. Â Sony has more and better first party developers and because of their superior hardware they will have all superior multiplatform games or at the minimum equality across games. Â
Based on all factors PS4 is just the better choice as a game console unless you a die hard fan for MS as a company or are a nationalist who feels the need to support the American or western system.
there is only one true answer NEITHER. Rather use the money that would be wasted on those conSLOWS and use it to buy some nice upgrades to my PC.
[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Suppaman100"] No. you leave out other factors. Fact 1: PS4 is stronger than Xbone Fact 2: PS4 is cheaper than Xbone And then you have the launch up. And this is entirely dependable on your taste. So this is subjective. After this we can objectively conclude that indeed PS4 is the best choice.kingtitoBut let us be serious here. Look at the factors... Built in new Kinect upgraded. Better XBOX LIVE service than PSN. overall more features on the console. No point in responding to him. He's adamant power == better. I guess he will agree Xbox>>PS2 and PC>>>>>>>all consoles Lol, I never said that the most powerful console will win the console war. PS4 is also cheaper, and I never said the cheapest console will win the war. But these points are still positive points. As it stands NOW; the PS4 is obviously the best choice. The only other objective "positive" point the Xbone has over the PS4, is kinect. So like I said 10 times here, More power, cheaper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kinect So lemmings I know you guys like to live in denial. I can't blame you though, after the crap MS did. But the facts are here and no matter what you say, the facts remain the same. (unless MS announces that Xbone will be stronger and cheaper than PS4...)
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