PS4 Pro officially bombs in Japan...3DS 107k

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#1  Edited By KBFloYd
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don't see the famicom mini sales this week if anyone knows let me know.

Hardware Sales (followed by last week’s sales)

  1. New 3DS LL – 81,044 (20,345)
  2. PlayStation 4 – 25,605 (92,344)
  3. 2DS – 17,769 (7,972)
  4. PlayStation 4 Pro – 12,421 (N/A)
  5. PlayStation Vita – 9,191 (10,410)
  6. New 3DS – 8,193 (3,603)
  7. Wii U – 3,251 (2,756)
  8. PlayStation 3 – 625 (611)
  9. 3DS – 529 (324)
  10. Xbox One – 186 (171)
  11. 3DS LL – 96 (57)

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2016/11/media-create-sales-111416-112016#ZwOlR3mid1xsqGDe.99

so the pro actually sold less than the standard edition! ps4 together sold for a total of 37k. stabilized back in 1 week.

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also.. pokemon sales just for preservation

Software Sales (followed by lifetime sales)

  1. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Pokemon Moon (Nintendo, 11/18/16) – 1,590,629 (New)
  2. [3DS] Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon Double Pack (Nintendo, 11/18/16) – 151,379 (New)

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#2 dynamitecop
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Who wants to hear something funny, it's being counted as a completely separate product.

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#3 Dakur
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PS4 >> Wii60Bone

TLHBO

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#4  Edited By SolidTy
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The Weekly sales are in.

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It's being counted as a separate product like the 3DS, 3DS LL, New 3DS, 2DS, and New 3DS LL are also different products...

As were the GBA, GBA SP, PS3 Slim, DS Lite, DS, DSi, DSi XL, Xbone S, PS2 Slim, PS2, PSOne, PS, 360 S, 360, Gamecube, Panasonic Q, and many other items throughout history were counted as different products. The Pro would be no different, including the different price points on these products.

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@dynamitecop said:

Who wants to hear something funny, it's being counted as a completely separate product.

Oh haven't you heard guys like quacknight are calling it the PS4 "family" now, so it doesn't matter if the Pro sells badly it will never be a failure because of teh "family" but if it sells like hot cakes you can bet your arse there will be Pro sales numbers everywhere on here.

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#6  Edited By silversix_
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for our lems
for our lems

I'm surprised the Bone sold over 100 systems.

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@SolidTy said:

The Weekly sales are in.

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It's being counted as a separate product like the 3DS, 3DS LL, New 3DS, 2DS, and New 3DS LL are also different products...

As were the GBA, GBA SP, PS3 Slim, DS Lite, DS, DSi, DSi XL, Xbone S, PS2 Slim, PS2, PSOne, PS, 360 S, 360, Gamecube, Panasonic Q, and many other items throughout history were counted as different products. The Pro would be no different, including the different price points on these products.

So we saying they are all different products now when it comes to sales?

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A bit surprising this early in the cycle. I can see Pokemon though driving 3DS hardware sales.

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#10 Legend002
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But Xbone only had 128 units sold. I called 12K+ a success in comparison.

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Whats the difference between the "new" 3DS LL and the "normal" 3DS LL?

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That drop for the original PS4 is mental

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#12  Edited By KBFloYd
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@makemefamous07 said:

Ouch big ass flop.I expect in North America to be the same exact thing. Gamestop has the Pro Sandwich at Full Stock after i searched there website lol. Not surprised who the hell wants to spend money on a Ugly ass console like Pro thats $500 during the holidays lmao. Sorry Sony you loose. U have NO games ALL summer & winter long which is also a HUGE loss for you.....Again!!!

the pro sandwhich lol

@thedork_knight said:

Whats the difference between the "new" 3DS LL and the "normal" 3DS LL?

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That drop for the original PS4 is mental

the new 3ds ll has super improved head tracking 3D. and a faster cpu for faster menu navigation. some games run slightly better.

actually the 94k was the pro and standard together from last week. so its not really that much of a drop for the standard. more like from 32k to 25k. pro was a huge drop. 60k to 12k.

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@Legend002 said:

But Xbone only had 128 units sold. I called 12K+ a success in comparison.

Not really when its a new system (technically) with all the hype surrounding it and its older inferior version sold twice as much.

And comparing it to XBO sales in Japan is kinda sad, as the Xbox has never sold well in japan.

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#14  Edited By thedork_knight
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@KBFloYd said:
@makemefamous07 said:

Ouch big ass flop.I expect in North America to be the same exact thing. Gamestop has the Pro Sandwich at Full Stock after i searched there website lol. Not surprised who the hell wants to spend money on a Ugly ass console like Pro thats $500 during the holidays lmao. Sorry Sony you loose. U have NO games ALL summer & winter long which is also a HUGE loss for you.....Again!!!

the pro sandwhich lol

@thedork_knight said:

Whats the difference between the "new" 3DS LL and the "normal" 3DS LL?

Â

That drop for the original PS4 is mental

the new 3ds ll has super improved head tracking 3D. and a faster cpu for faster menu navigation. some games run slightly better.

actually the 94k was the pro and standard together from last week. so its not really that much of a drop for the standard. more like from 32k to 25k. pro was a huge drop. 60k to 12k.

Awsome thats for the info on both counts

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#15 DaVillain  Moderator
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You can blame Japan's Earthquake for the lack of PS4 Pro sales.

But anyways, Japan is dying, the consoles over there is deadweight so no surprise to that.

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#16 Legend002
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@thedork_knight said:
@Legend002 said:

But Xbone only had 128 units sold. I called 12K+ a success in comparison.

Not really when its a new system (technically) with all the hype surrounding it and its older inferior version sold twice as much.

And comparing it to XBO sales in Japan is kinda sad, as the Xbox has never sold well in japan.

But's Xbox, Sony's mortal enemy.

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#17 Desmonic  Moderator
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That's a whole lot of Pokemon. Damn.

PS4 Pro is more or less in line with my expectations tbh. Slim should be the main driver everywhere, with the Pro doing anywhere from ~20% to ~50% of it's sales per month ( I honestly feel this will be the case WW after launch numbers).

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#18 kvally
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Holy cow the Pro flopped fucking hard in its own country.

Xbox >> WiiSbore

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#19 Legend002
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In all seriousness did anyone expected big numbers for the Pro? It's design for those with a 4K tv and that market in itself is niche. People with 1080 displays have no business getting a Pro unless they are planning to go 4K soon.

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@KBFloYd said:

It was never meant to outsell the OG PS4. Also, Sony themselves will combine PS4 and PS4 Pro sales since they are both under the same brand of hardware.

People need to stop looking at the PS4 Pro as a successor, it isn't.

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#21 Dakur
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@emgesp said:

People need to stop looking at the PS4 Pro as a successor, it isn't.

They're not people, they are lems who are butthurt cause they have no exclusive games anymore so any comparison with the mighty Quad is automatic ownage towards them. TLHBO

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#22 Wiiboxstation
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@KBFloYd: famicom mini sold out last week. Nothing to sell this week.

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How does these compare to smartphone (or mobile games) sales just to put things in perspective?

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#24 Flyincloud1116
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Wow, it's being outsold by the Xbore1....

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#25 Kashiwaba
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Pro is almost sold out in Japan i don't think Sony even thought about pro being a big seller in Japan so they are under shipping it.

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#26 kvally
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Many figured that it being the PS4 successor and all that it should have toppled the charts. I see they are collecting dust and easy to find here in the states too.

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#27 kvally
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@dynamitecop: that's because it is a separate product.

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#28 Kruiz_Bathory
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Damn Japan get your shit together this handheld bullshit market needs to die off over there.

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#29 PSP107
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@kvally:

It's just a PS4 though. =(

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#30 Kashiwaba
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@PSP107:

Exactly unless you have some extra money lying around + maybe a 4k TV then i see no reason to get it, yes there is some difference in IQ when you play some of the patched games even on 1080 TVs but really after 30 minutes you won't even care about it.

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#31 enzyme36
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Nintendo is poised to do well this holiday season here in the states too. Pokemon and a $100 3ds is an attractive offer. And the NES classic looks popular.

Will be interesting to see how it ends up..... FF15 is a good console mover for the twins.

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Reading all the dumb comments from the PS fanboys is just too funny right now LOL. They repeat the same nonsense over and over again.

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LOL look at that 186 :P Even the PS3 outsold the XB1 lol

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@makemefamous07 said:

Ouch big ass flop.I expect in North America to be the same exact thing. Gamestop has the Pro Sandwich at Full Stock after i searched there website lol. Not surprised who the hell wants to spend money on a Ugly ass console like Pro thats $500 during the holidays lmao. Sorry Sony you loose. U have NO games ALL summer & winter long which is also a HUGE loss for you.....Again!!!

Yeah I waited to see how the pro will turn out, but honestly I just cannot see myself spending this much money on a console. I don't mind spending $500 on a console and a few games, but $500 for only the console, nah I can't. Truth be told I'm still not sold on current gen. I can't buy a whole console just to play Final Fantasy XV.

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#35 GhoX
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This is the likely culprit: https://www.jp.playstation.com/blog/detail/3635/20160908-ps4p5.html?tkgpscom=dc_ps4p5_ps_tw_20160908

Instant lost Pro sales since there is a PS4 Persona 5 bundle on the market, and Persona 5 is not getting a Pro patch.

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#36 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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The numbers for any of the home consoles are not impressive at all. I don't see nothing wrong with the Pro numbers in that context. Also, how is it surprising that the cheaper PS4 sold more than the Pro?

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#37 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Now if only the west followed. I honestly dont want this thing to be successful. Mid gen upgrades is a terrible TERRIBLE idea, imo

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#38  Edited By QuadKnight
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lel, 186 Xbones sold TLHBR (The Lemmings Have Been Rekt)

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#39 sailor232
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Those 3ds sales are massive, Pokemon still the hit seller.

Handheld and phone games are so much more popular in Japan, the Vita sections of stores are pretty massive.

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#40 Quicksilver128
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Considering the taste the Japanese have developed in games and hardware this isnt a surprise. This is exactly the reason most of there games are about 10 years behind western developers. They support hardware like the 3ds.

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#41 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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Come again? Since the PS4 Pro is a PS4 the number for the week is just under 40,000 units. That's pretty good for Japan. In fact, it's better than everything else on that list by a long shot.

Also, LOL at the PS3 outselling the Xbone. Damn, how embarrassing for lems.

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#42 DaVillain  Moderator
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@reduc_ab_ said:

Also, LOL at the PS3 outselling the Xbone. Damn, how embarrassing for lems.

A 10 year old PS3 in fact! Totally embarrassing but than again, it's Japan, they hate Xbox brand so oh well.

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#43  Edited By Heil68
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PS4>Wiiu/X1/360

PS4 8X >Wiiu

PS4 PRO 4X > Wiiu

SDC

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#44 Guy_Brohski
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Wow, the Xbone outsold a Nintendo handheld product... in Japan. This is huge.

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#45  Edited By ellos
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Kinda makes sense for japan and where console business is at, at the moment. Console iterations shouldn't make any sense there. Ps3 still the market for f**k sake. We will keep getting cross gen games or old engines in this day and age from japan. The title should be Ps4 continues to lead the declining console market in Japan. I don't know if any party can claim any ownage from that. This thread seems to be a bit reaching.

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#46 KBFloYd
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@Heil68 said:

PS4>Wiiu/X1/360

PS4 8X >Wiiu

PS4 PRO 4X > Wiiu

SDC

3ds>psp/vita/gamegear/lynx

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So next time I go to a car dealership and buy a car with a 1.6 engine rather than a 1.4 then that means I'm buying a totally different car.

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#48  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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Across the board, Nintendo hardware surged there relative to the preceding week - why is that? Was there some kind of sale or holiday? Across the SKUs above there was a 320% increase in sales for Nintendo over the preceding week

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#49 KBFloYd
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@xantufrog said:

Across the board, Nintendo hardware surged there relative to the preceding week - why is that? Was there some kind of sale or holiday?

pokesgiving ;)

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#50 KBFloYd
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@wiiboxstation said:

@KBFloYd: famicom mini sold out last week. Nothing to sell this week.

really? completely sold out? lol jesus nintendo. holy undership batman.