PS4 but No PSN+

Who here plans on getting a PS4but saying F it to PSN+?

I personally don't see the value in it, the only PlayStation exclusives I've bothered to play on line  are Demon Souls and Dark Souls and Dark Souls eventually came out on the PC.  I've got both Uncharted 2 & 3 and GOW 4 and have no desire for online.  Any game I find I might want to play online like Modern Warfare I'll just get the Wii U or PC version.

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

I plan to renew my PS+ but don't intend to play online because I prefer local play. I do intend to get a PS4 as well.

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

Basinboy

Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!"  They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

Shielder7

[QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

Zidaneski

I prob wont get psn+

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

Shielder7

Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!"  They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

mynamesdenvrmax

[QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

Shewgenja

[QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

Shewgenja

Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, UC 2 and UC 3 are all only worth playing for the multiplayer aspects arguably, so you'd be losing out on most of the experience. 

Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, UC 2 and UC 3 are all only worth playing for the multiplayer aspects arguably, so you'd be losing out on most of the experience. 

Dead-Memories

[QUOTE="Zidaneski"]

[QUOTE="Shielder7"] What perks? What Sony calls perks I call annoyances. Shielder7

Maybe the same here. I was all for making the PS4 my primary system due to a bunch of irl friends getting it but once the policy changes reversed they've all said they're picking up an Xbox now. So I suppose I'll be sticking with PC and PS4 for the exclusive here and Japanese game there. I don't find any value in Plus.

if you own a vita, ps3 and going to get a ps4. Psn plus is a no brainer, i'm broke as hell right now but in these past weeks I played gravity rush, unchartetd golden abyss, blazblue continnum shift, god eater, zero's escape virtue's last reward. all that together is way over 50 bucks so I got my money back just on the vita alone. Its a great service

Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!" They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

mynamesdenvrmax

1) Sony has stated that they dont require PS+ for all online games. They are letting publishers and developers decide if they want to put their online game behind the PS+ paywall. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/ps4-publishers-decide-if-free-to-play-needs-ps-plus

2) Games labeled as free do not require PS+ to play them. Dc universe online, warframe, planetside 2 and so on which are free games can be played online without having to pay for PS+ http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/17/ps4-planetside-2-dc-universe-online-will-not-require-playstatio/

3) Netflix, internet access, cross game chat and so on do not require ps+ http://www.gamechup.com/ps4-playstation-plus-details-cross-game-chat-doesnt-require-the-service/ and http://www.gamesradar.com/playstation-plus-not-needed-netflix-f2p-multiplayer-ps4/

The original argument was based on the fact that sony was giving its customers for free what microsoft was charging for. There is no argument now that they both are charging. But even still sony is still giving users things for free that microsoft is charging for.

Sony still has a drastic edge in the value department. For 50 bucks PS+ has 18 games instantly, 5 new games a month, discounts on the PSN store and a lot more while microsoft charges 60 bucks a year and only gives 2 games a month.

But as I showed above, sony is not locking everything online behind the PS+ paywall while microsoft is.

Already got it. Now what I am interested in is if using Gaikei, you can stream your PS+ free games on PS4 if you continue your account.CrownedClownAg

[QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="Zidaneski"]

Discounts is one thing I will mention, normally I just use the cloud saving and play the "free" games, but discounted games you can keep even if you unsubscribe. I just bought Batman: AA for $4.99 and will probably download SotC as well and I have both of those games on disc, best of both worlds. 

Zidaneski

[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!" They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

Gargus

1) Sony has stated that they dont require PS+ for all online games. They are letting publishers and developers decide if they want to put their online game behind the PS+ paywall. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/ps4-publishers-decide-if-free-to-play-needs-ps-plus

2) Games labeled as free do not require PS+ to play them. Dc universe online, warframe, planetside 2 and so on which are free games can be played online without having to pay for PS+ http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/17/ps4-planetside-2-dc-universe-online-will-not-require-playstatio/

3) Netflix, internet access, cross game chat and so on do not require ps+ http://www.gamechup.com/ps4-playstation-plus-details-cross-game-chat-doesnt-require-the-service/ and http://www.gamesradar.com/playstation-plus-not-needed-netflix-f2p-multiplayer-ps4/

The original argument was based on the fact that sony was giving its customers for free what microsoft was charging for. There is no argument now that they both are charging. But even still sony is still giving users things for free that microsoft is charging for.

Sony still has a drastic edge in the value department. For 50 bucks PS+ has 18 games instantly, 5 new games a month, discounts on the PSN store and a lot more while microsoft charges 60 bucks a year and only gives 2 games a month.

But as I showed above, sony is not locking everything online behind the PS+ paywall while microsoft is.

I don't mind paying for PS+ because it's a bloody great service. I got Demon's Souls, SotC and ICO HD and Uncharted 3 all for free cos of PS+. 

[QUOTE="Zidaneski"]

[QUOTE="Shielder7"] Unless of course you live in Canada like me where shirking data caps are a reality or prefer Physical copies of games. Also they're not free if you're paying for them.Shielder7

Will be getting both since I don't plan on buying that many games on the PS4.

I'm getting PSN+ for sure, Ive paid for Live for the past 6 years, time to show Sony some love. Heil68

Awwwwh yeaaah and with Sony you're not paying to for ads all over your screen, with Sony you get a console by gamers for gamers, the Sony way.

[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!" They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

Gargus

1) Sony has stated that they dont require PS+ for all online games. They are letting publishers and developers decide if they want to put their online game behind the PS+ paywall. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/ps4-publishers-decide-if-free-to-play-needs-ps-plus

2) Games labeled as free do not require PS+ to play them. Dc universe online, warframe, planetside 2 and so on which are free games can be played online without having to pay for PS+ http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/17/ps4-planetside-2-dc-universe-online-will-not-require-playstatio/

3) Netflix, internet access, cross game chat and so on do not require ps+ http://www.gamechup.com/ps4-playstation-plus-details-cross-game-chat-doesnt-require-the-service/ and http://www.gamesradar.com/playstation-plus-not-needed-netflix-f2p-multiplayer-ps4/

The original argument was based on the fact that sony was giving its customers for free what microsoft was charging for. There is no argument now that they both are charging. But even still sony is still giving users things for free that microsoft is charging for.

Sony still has a drastic edge in the value department. For 50 bucks PS+ has 18 games instantly, 5 new games a month, discounts on the PSN store and a lot more while microsoft charges 60 bucks a year and only gives 2 games a month.

But as I showed above, sony is not locking everything online behind the PS+ paywall while microsoft is.

i probably wont get it until most of my friends get a ps4 as well. im probably gonna be playing mostly single player games anyway, so i would get it mostly to play online with my friends. the extra free games and content are a plus as well.

We'll see, I'll have to see something that I just think I HAVE to play online before I buy it. I try to buy everything retail, so the discounts don't do much (if anything) for me. The free games are nice, but they haven't announced much there yet for PS4, and the other features we know of I can do without entirely or for the most part at least.

This topic is lame. I didn't vote. 

[QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

Shewgenja

[QUOTE="Gargus"]

[QUOTE="mynamesdenvrmax"]

Where are all the people who claimed "You already pay for internet, Microsoft is ripping you off!" They seem to be pretty quiet about online play being restricted to paying members.

J_O1ne

1) Sony has stated that they dont require PS+ for all online games. They are letting publishers and developers decide if they want to put their online game behind the PS+ paywall. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/ps4-publishers-decide-if-free-to-play-needs-ps-plus

2) Games labeled as free do not require PS+ to play them. Dc universe online, warframe, planetside 2 and so on which are free games can be played online without having to pay for PS+ http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/17/ps4-planetside-2-dc-universe-online-will-not-require-playstatio/

3) Netflix, internet access, cross game chat and so on do not require ps+ http://www.gamechup.com/ps4-playstation-plus-details-cross-game-chat-doesnt-require-the-service/ and http://www.gamesradar.com/playstation-plus-not-needed-netflix-f2p-multiplayer-ps4/

The original argument was based on the fact that sony was giving its customers for free what microsoft was charging for. There is no argument now that they both are charging. But even still sony is still giving users things for free that microsoft is charging for.

Sony still has a drastic edge in the value department. For 50 bucks PS+ has 18 games instantly, 5 new games a month, discounts on the PSN store and a lot more while microsoft charges 60 bucks a year and only gives 2 games a month.

But as I showed above, sony is not locking everything online behind the PS+ paywall while microsoft is.

Who here plans on getting a PS4but saying F it to PSN+?

I personally don't see the value in it, the only PlayStation exclusives I've bothered to play on line  are Demon Souls and Dark Souls and Dark Souls eventually came out on the PC.  I've got both Uncharted 2 & 3 and GOW 4 and have no desire for online.  Any game I find I might want to play online like Modern Warfare I'll just get the Wii U or PC version.

Shielder7

I think i'll get it for the months that I actually need it - this being when a MP game is released or the free games are especially good, hopefully buying a single month isn't more expensive than what it'd be if ps+ was bought for 12 months.

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

Shielder7

You call the fact that I got Dues Ex, Saints Row IV, Battlefield 3, Little big planet carting, Uncharted Golden Abyss and many others games as part of PSN+ annoyances? I also only paid 40 bucks for PSN+ since I had a coupon through Best Buy. More than worth it as there are many more games to come. 

[QUOTE="Shielder7"]

Who here plans on getting a PS4but saying F it to PSN+?

I personally don't see the value in it, the only PlayStation exclusives I've bothered to play on line  are Demon Souls and Dark Souls and Dark Souls eventually came out on the PC.  I've got both Uncharted 2 & 3 and GOW 4 and have no desire for online.  Any game I find I might want to play online like Modern Warfare I'll just get the Wii U or PC version.

Rattlesnake_8

[QUOTE="Shielder7"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Both.  The perks alone are worth the price of admission, paywall multiplayer notwithstanding.

ryangcnx-2

You call the fact that I got Dues Ex, Saints Row IV, Battlefield 3, Little big planet carting, Uncharted Golden Abyss and many others games as part of PSN+ annoyances? I also only paid 40 bucks for PSN+ since I had a coupon through Best Buy. More than worth it as there are many more games to come.