PS1 games + PS2 games = PS2's Game Library?

I need some additional information from some gamers on here. I need to know if you feel like the PS2's game library consists of both the PS1 games and the PS2 titles.

The reason for this thread is for another board that I'm on. I made a thread asking which console has the best gaming library of all time. I picked the PS2 because you have all the PS1 games and PS2 games to choose from. But others say that it's not fair to say that. Am I wrong? So the PS1 games don't count toward the PS2's library? That's news to me.

Hell no PS1 games = PS1 Libary

PS2 = PS2 Libary

PS3 = PS3 Libary.

Hell no PS1 games = PS1 Libary

PS2 = PS2 Libary

PS3 = PS3 Libary.

SpecialForcesOp

A library is defined as a collection of things at your disposal to use. Sony made the PS2 with the PS1 in mind, so they made the console fully BC with all the PS1 games. So why shouldn't those games count as a part of PS2's library when you can play them all on one console?

ofcourse not, ps1 games are ps1 games, ps2 games are ps2 games, thats it. its like considering the Wii's virtual console games part of the Wii's library.thejakel11225

The Wii's virtual console games are a part of the Wii's library since you can play them with a Wii.

You are on shaky ground there my friend. You could force the argument but I wouldn't risk it. You might end up regretting it for the rest of your life.JiveT

So do you agree with what I'm saying?

[QUOTE="JiveT"]You are on shaky ground there my friend. You could force the argument but I wouldn't risk it. You might end up regretting it for the rest of your life.GoldenGlove

So do you agree with what I'm saying?

In spirit yes. I was the idiot that voted Yes in the poll. But if I took it to court I don't know what would happen.

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]You are on shaky ground there my friend. You could force the argument but I wouldn't risk it. You might end up regretting it for the rest of your life.JiveT

So do you agree with what I'm saying?

In spirit yes. I was the idiot that voted Yes in the poll. But if I took it to court I don't know what would happen.

In my opinion it's really common sense that the PS2's library consists of the PS1's as well. If they made the PS2 so that it only played PS2 games then of course you could say that they are separate libraries. But with the way it is now, the libraries are merged for you to play all the games on the PS2. It's really not that hard to see. Just like the PS3's library is PS3+PS2+PS1 games.

[QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"]

Hell no PS1 games = PS1 Libary

PS2 = PS2 Libary

PS3 = PS3 Libary.

GoldenGlove

A library is defined as a collection of things at your disposal to use. Sony made the PS2 with the PS1 in mind, so they made the console fully BC with all the PS1 games. So why shouldn't those games count as a part of PS2's library when you can play them all on one console?

This thread is making little sense to me... So what your trying to say is... you think PS1 games are part of the PS2 libary because PS2 is backwards compatible with PS1 games... So I guess then XBOX games are apart of XBOX360s libary... and nes, snes, genesis, N64 and GC games are part of the Wiis libary.... Erm what is the point of this thread again?Dahaka-UK

Exactly what I'm saying. However the 360 wasn't built to play ALL of the old Xbox1 games like the PS2 and PS3 were to play the previous consoles games. But none the less some Xbox1 games are a part of the 360's library.

Glad to see more people use common sense with the question.

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"][QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"]

Hell no PS1 games = PS1 Libary

PS2 = PS2 Libary

PS3 = PS3 Libary.

Bluestorm-Kalas

A library is defined as a collection of things at your disposal to use. Sony made the PS2 with the PS1 in mind, so they made the console fully BC with all the PS1 games. So why shouldn't those games count as a part of PS2's library when you can play them all on one console?

Yes I know, but it seems like people love the SNES so much that they'll strongly disagree with me feeling that the PS2 has a better list of games to play for it. They don't want PS1 games to be counted toward the PS2's library for fanboy reasons in my opinion.

[QUOTE="JiveT"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]You are on shaky ground there my friend. You could force the argument but I wouldn't risk it. You might end up regretting it for the rest of your life.GoldenGlove

So do you agree with what I'm saying?

In spirit yes. I was the idiot that voted Yes in the poll. But if I took it to court I don't know what would happen.

In my opinion it's really common sense that the PS2's library consists of the PS1's as well. If they made the PS2 so that it only played PS2 games then of course you could say that they are separate libraries. But with the way it is now, the libraries are merged for you to play all the games on the PS2. It's really not that hard to see. Just like the PS3's library is PS3+PS2+PS1 games.

Sure, a library consists of what the system is capable of playing. The reason people don't want to go along with this idea, is b/c it essentially voids out many previous consoles.

What's better a PSX or a PS2?

PS2 easily. You get the PSX content and that generations content as well.

What's better a Wii or GC?

Wii easily. You get the GC content and slowly a growing library of many previous gen consoles.

So on and so forth.

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"][QUOTE="JiveT"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]You are on shaky ground there my friend. You could force the argument but I wouldn't risk it. You might end up regretting it for the rest of your life.Gallion-Beast

So do you agree with what I'm saying?

In spirit yes. I was the idiot that voted Yes in the poll. But if I took it to court I don't know what would happen.

In my opinion it's really common sense that the PS2's library consists of the PS1's as well. If they made the PS2 so that it only played PS2 games then of course you could say that they are separate libraries. But with the way it is now, the libraries are merged for you to play all the games on the PS2. It's really not that hard to see. Just like the PS3's library is PS3+PS2+PS1 games.

But that's not the point if it's adding to the library to YOU so to speak. That's not sayin' that its not adding to somebody else. I'm sure everybody didn't have every game for PS2 or PS1 that was great. So if they bought a PS3 and missed out on a PS2 game they have the luxury of going out and buying that game and enjoying it. (now in 1080p).

Sure, a library consists of what the system is capable of playing. The reason people don't want to go along with this idea, is b/c it essentially voids out many previous consoles.

What's better a PSX or a PS2?

PS2 easily. You get the PSX content and that generations content as well.

What's better a Wii or GC?

Wii easily. You get the GC content and slowly a growing library of many previous gen consoles.

So on and so forth.

-RPGamer-

Thank you sir.

Common sense isn't really that common

But that's not the point if it's adding to the library to YOU so to speak. That's not sayin' that its not adding to somebody else. I'm sure everybody didn't have every game for PS2 or PS1 that was great. So if they bought a PS3 and missed out on a PS2 game they have the luxury of going out and buying that game and enjoying it. (now in 1080p).GoldenGlove

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]But that's not the point if it's adding to the library to YOU so to speak. That's not sayin' that its not adding to somebody else. I'm sure everybody didn't have every game for PS2 or PS1 that was great. So if they bought a PS3 and missed out on a PS2 game they have the luxury of going out and buying that game and enjoying it. (now in 1080p).Gallion-Beast

No, a console's library consists of what games are compatible with it. So you disguard old games because it's not new? That doesn't make sense at all because I'm sure a lot of people didn't play every game that they wanted to so in actuallity it is new to them anyway.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

Sure, a library consists of what the system is capable of playing. The reason people don't want to go along with this idea, is b/c it essentially voids out many previous consoles.

What's better a PSX or a PS2?

PS2 easily. You get the PSX content and that generations content as well.

What's better a Wii or GC?

Wii easily. You get the GC content and slowly a growing library of many previous gen consoles.

So on and so forth.

GoldenGlove

Thank you sir.

Common sense isn't really that common

The poll stats clearly prove that people don't have common sense with this topic.

[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]But that's not the point if it's adding to the library to YOU so to speak. That's not sayin' that its not adding to somebody else. I'm sure everybody didn't have every game for PS2 or PS1 that was great. So if they bought a PS3 and missed out on a PS2 game they have the luxury of going out and buying that game and enjoying it. (now in 1080p).GoldenGlove

No, a console's library consists of what games are compatible with it. So you disguard old games because it's not new? That doesn't make sense at all because I'm sure a lot of people didn't play every game that they wanted to so in actuallity it is new to them anyway.

The poll stats clearly prove that people don't have common sense with this topic.GoldenGlove

*****JiveT

I guess you might be right in saying PS1 games are part of PS2 games libary because you can play PS1 games on a PS2... but thats doesn't change the fact that they are still only PS1 games and older gen games and I doubt many peoples decisions back then to buying a PS2 where based off knowing you could play PS1 games aswell, people wanted next gen games, the PS2 games.. Same now, you wouldn't buy a PS3 just to play older gen games, you'd buy it to play next gen games I would think...

Still, if you consider them to be different platforms, I don't see why someone should not consider them to have different libraries. When you talk about a game from a specific era, you specify the console it was on. I would doubt anybody in here would direct a game like Chrono Cross as a PS2 game... At least before you made this thread. If this was the case, then I would say: PS1 library + the PS2 library= can be played on the PS2.

I'll give you people an example of why I feel like PS1 games are apart of the PS2's library.

Say for instance you have a database online containing specific information(PS1), okay then you have another database that gives you access to the original database and additionalinformation. (PS2)

With this being the case, the first database is actually a part of the second one, because you can access of it's information there. I hope you can understand what I'm saying.

I'm totally against that stuff. But OK.JiveT

I guess you might be right in saying PS1 games are part of PS2 games libary because you can play PS1 games on a PS2... but thats doesn't change the fact that they are still only PS1 games and older gen games and I doubt many peoples decisions back then to buying a PS2 where based off knowing you could play PS1 games aswell, people wanted next gen games, the PS2 games.. Same now, you wouldn't buy a PS3 just to play older gen games, you'd buy it to play next gen games I would think...

Dahaka-UK

You are missing the point. My point is that you can access those games on the current console thus for it's a part of the consoles overall library. It doesn't matter if people don't buy it for older games or not, the fact is that they can still play them on it.

I plan on buying quite a few PS2 games to play on my PS3 now actually. So your statement isn't as true as you may think.

The PC is a neat example of this concept b/c it happens inherently with gaming PCs. Everytime you upgrade it's usually to be able to play something new that wasn't possible on your old hardware. Yet, when you upgrade doyou expect to lose the ability to play previous titles? No. You expect you hardware to have backwards compatibility with previously released titles. Here we have PC's pulling off BC all the time, and yet the PC library despite being huge is considered a single entity.-RPGamer-

Exactly...

The same thing can be said about consoles.

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]>I'll give you people an example of why I feel like PS1 games are apart of the PS2's library. Say for instance you have a database online containing specific information(PS1), okay then you have another database that gives you access to the original database and additional information. (PS2) With this being the case, the first database is actually a part of the second one, because you can access of it's information there. I hope you can understand what I'm saying.Gallion-Beast

True, but the database was made for you to have access to the previous one. Just like the PS2. Sony purposely made the console BC and they didn't have to do that. Same with the PS3.

The 360's hardware is an example of a company NOT keeping it's previous console's titles in mind when they made the console. That's why all of the Xbox1 games aren't compatible with the 360.

I didn't say they weren't PS1 games, I just said they are apart of the PS2's library. It's really not that hard to understand.

Amazing how much sony hate you find on this board, everyone knows the games are a part of the ps2´s library, but that means the ps3 has a huge library of games which is a good thing, and the ps3 can´t have good things.

IF YOU CAN PLAY THE GAMES ON THE SYSTEM THEY ARE PART OF THE SYSTEMS LIBRARY.

I´m shocked at these people answering no, how hell don´t the games count? They are playable on the ps2 so they are part of the ps2´s library, they aren´t ps2 games but they are part of the ps2 library.Eddie-Vedder

I don't understand it either. This is the second board where I had a debate like this... so obviously people don't agree. But I honestly feel like what I and you are saying is 100% right. I don't see why people are picking no. And I haven't came across one reply that made me question where I stand on the topic.

Amazing how much sony hate you find on this board, everyone knows the games are a part of the ps2´s library, but that means the ps3 has a huge library of games which is a good thing, and the ps3 can´t have good things.

IF YOU CAN PLAY THE GAMES ON THE SYSTEM THEY ARE PART OF THE SYSTEMS LIBRARY.

Eddie-Vedder

Yeah, that's what my opinion is too. The idea of this thread came from another one. People wanted to say that the SNES has the best library of all time so much that they try and downplay how great the PS2's library was and still is. And when I said PS1 games count for PS2's library they really got defensive.

[QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"][QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"]

Hell no PS1 games = PS1 Libary

PS2 = PS2 Libary

PS3 = PS3 Libary.

GoldenGlove

A library is defined as a collection of things at your disposal to use. Sony made the PS2 with the PS1 in mind, so they made the console fully BC with all the PS1 games. So why shouldn't those games count as a part of PS2's library when you can play them all on one console?

Yes I know, but it seems like people love the SNES so much that they'll strongly disagree with me feeling that the PS2 has a better list of games to play for it. They don't want PS1 games to be counted toward the PS2's library for fanboy reasons in my opinion.

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"][QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"][QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"]

Hell no PS1 games = PS1 Libary

PS2 = PS2 Libary

PS3 = PS3 Libary.

OGTiago

A library is defined as a collection of things at your disposal to use. Sony made the PS2 with the PS1 in mind, so they made the console fully BC with all the PS1 games. So why shouldn't those games count as a part of PS2's library when you can play them all on one console?

Yes I know, but it seems like people love the SNES so much that they'll strongly disagree with me feeling that the PS2 has a better list of games to play for it. They don't want PS1 games to be counted toward the PS2's library for fanboy reasons in my opinion.

omg this thread is killing me, so I can play the games on the ps2 but there not a part of the game library? When sony launched the ps2 and the ps3 for that matter didn´t they say it had a library of games x big I don´t remember the exact figure but they were refering to the ps1 and ps2 games also, BC is made so the games move onto the next platform making an even bigger library.

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"][QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"][QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"]

Hell no PS1 games = PS1 Libary

PS2 = PS2 Libary

PS3 = PS3 Libary.

OGTiago

A library is defined as a collection of things at your disposal to use. Sony made the PS2 with the PS1 in mind, so they made the console fully BC with all the PS1 games. So why shouldn't those games count as a part of PS2's library when you can play them all on one console?

Yes I know, but it seems like people love the SNES so much that they'll strongly disagree with me feeling that the PS2 has a better list of games to play for it. They don't want PS1 games to be counted toward the PS2's library for fanboy reasons in my opinion.

PS1 games may have not been made specifically for the PS2, but the PS2 was specifically made to play them along with PS2 games.

Next...

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]True, but the database was made for you to have access to the previous one. Just like the PS2. Sony purposely made the console BC and they didn't have to do that. Same with the PS3. The 360's hardware is an example of a company NOT keeping it's previous console's titles in mind when they made the console. That's why all of the Xbox1 games aren't compatible with the 360. I didn't say they weren't PS1 games, I just said they are apart of the PS2's library. It's really not that hard to understand.Gallion-Beast

this has nothing to with opinion, everyone always says it´s "opinion" it´s a fact can you not play ps1 games on the ps2? yes or no simple question.

The PC is a neat example of this concept b/c it happens inherently with gaming PCs. Everytime you upgrade it's usually to be able to play something new that wasn't possible on your old hardware. Yet, when you upgrade doyou expect to lose the ability to play previous titles? No. You expect you hardware to have backwards compatibility with previously released titles. Here we have PC's pulling off BC all the time, and yet the PC library despite being huge is considered a single entity.-RPGamer-

Yes, but by definition the PC itself is not considered to be a different platform from itself when it comes to gaming, nor does it define itself from different generations when it comes to gaming... since well it does not have a solid base to do so, since most of it's era can only be definied individually or in a subjective way... What I'm trying to say is, can you give me the name that specifies the generation the PC platform is going through right now? Or the last one?..... Meh I'll respond to that poll by using the paper and scissors game :lol: ...

this has nothing to with opinion, everyone always says it´s "opinion" it´s a fact can you not play ps1 games on the ps2? yes or no simple question.Eddie-Vedder

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]True, but the database was made for you to have access to the previous one. Just like the PS2. Sony purposely made the console BC and they didn't have to do that. Same with the PS3. The 360's hardware is an example of a company NOT keeping it's previous console's titles in mind when they made the console. That's why all of the Xbox1 games aren't compatible with the 360. I didn't say they weren't PS1 games, I just said they are apart of the PS2's library. It's really not that hard to understand.Gallion-Beast

Yes, but how am I wrong? The PS2 plays PS1 games and PS2 games. It doesn't matter what people think about when you say "PS2 library".