PS+ not required for Cross Game chat (why are we paying for XBLGold again?)

Why are we paying to play online again?

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] great opinion there buddyChris_Williams

No one said it was special.

XBL is like a well tuned car. Everything works, its fast and in the end the user-experience is much better.

PSN is a car thats been taped and glued together. It still works, but its slower and your experience won't be as great.

I'm playing quite a bit of Uncharted 3 online atm, and its great but it doesn't blind me to PSN's faults. I feel seriously restricted when I play online on PSN compared to XBL, and for good reason.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]

>Says it's an objective fact

 

>Fails to list reasons why it's an objective fact.

 

Story of SW.

I_can_haz

Xbox live on Xbox One has dedicated servers, end of discussion. Come back when PSN has grown up.tdkmillsy

the reaching is very strong coming from xbox stans funny lems wanted online to drop free so they could have bragging rights but nope all they hear is how ps4 will have cross game chat without having ps plus d@mn :lol:

rell84

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]

>Says it's an objective fact

 

>Fails to list reasons why it's an objective fact.

 

Story of SW.

legalize82

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="RR360DD"] Its not an opinion, its fact. I'm not surprised you're confused though, as someone who never plays on the Xbox.

RR360DD

No one said it was special.

XBL is like a well tuned car. Everything works, its fast and in the end the user-experience is much better.

PSN is a car thats been taped and glued together. It still works, but its slower and your experience won't be as great.

I'm playing quite a bit of Uncharted 3 online atm, and its great but it doesn't blind me to PSN's faults. I feel seriously restricted when I play online on PSN compared to XBL, and for good reason.

PlayStation Network>>>>>>Xbox Live

Its not even a contest anymore.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]

>Says it's an objective fact

 

>Fails to list reasons why it's an objective fact.

 

Story of SW.

legalize82

You pay for XBL to watch ads.

Xbox live on Xbox One has dedicated servers, end of discussion. Come back when PSN has grown up.tdkmillsy

..so now cows are justifying paying to play online...

:lol::lol::lol:

..so now cows are justifying paying to play online...

 

 

:lol::lol::lol:

OhSnapitz

..so now cows are justifying paying to play online...

 

 

 

:lol::lol::lol:

OhSnapitz

No not all of us are.

Paying for online gaming is a rip off no matter who does it.

[QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]Xbox live on Xbox One has dedicated servers, end of discussion. Come back when PSN has grown up.ShoulderOfOrion

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] i have a 360 and had live when I got a trial for it, after it ended i went back to playing multiplayer games on my ps3, obviously must not have been that special if I didn't see what the hell people were paying for. Chris_Williams

No one said it was special.

XBL is like a well tuned car. Everything works, its fast and in the end the user-experience is much better.

PSN is a car thats been taped and glued together. It still works, but its slower and your experience won't be as great.

I'm playing quite a bit of Uncharted 3 online atm, and its great but it doesn't blind me to PSN's faults. I feel seriously restricted when I play online on PSN compared to XBL, and for good reason.

And what value has that brought to PSN? Absolutely nothing.

You know the funny thing is I started up U3 multiplayer yesterday (first time ever playing it) and had to download some things (including a 343MB update LOL) and I had to download the Online pass thing which took me to the OLD PSN STORE UI. What a f*cking embarrassment. It just goes to show the service is a mish-mash of crap Sony has come up with to play catchup to XBL. Maybe I look at things differently to everyone else as I dabble in UI design, but I literally facepalmed at that.

Also, Sony and their indie policies isn't really anything to do with the services, so not sure why you brought that up. MS allowed indies to self publish on the 360, and we just ended up with all the shit of the day.

So yeah, try and stay on topic. The fact that PSN is getting overhauled for the PS4 (to be more like XBL) should be proof enough that its inferior. Clearly even Sony recognises that.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

..so now cows are justifying paying to play online...

 

 

:lol::lol::lol:

PonchoTaco

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:lol: Lemmings like paying for M$ to own their butts they'll always find a way to justify paying for XBL even when there are no reasons to.I_can_haz

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]Xbox live on Xbox One has dedicated servers, end of discussion. Come back when PSN has grown up.legalize82

Yeah dedicated to everything except Internet Security....

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="tdkmillsy"]Xbox live on Xbox One has dedicated servers, end of discussion. Come back when PSN has grown up.legalize82

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

No one said it was special.

XBL is like a well tuned car. Everything works, its fast and in the end the user-experience is much better.

PSN is a car thats been taped and glued together. It still works, but its slower and your experience won't be as great.

I'm playing quite a bit of Uncharted 3 online atm, and its great but it doesn't blind me to PSN's faults. I feel seriously restricted when I play online on PSN compared to XBL, and for good reason.

RR360DD

And what value has that brought to PSN? Absolutely nothing.

You know the funny thing is I started up U3 multiplayer yesterday (first time ever playing it) and had to download some things (including a 343MB update LOL) and I had to download the Online pass thing which took me to the OLD PSN STORE UI. What a f*cking embarrassment. It just goes to show the service is a mish-mash of crap Sony has come up with to play catchup to XBL. Maybe I look at things differently to everyone else as I dabble in UI design, but I literally facepalmed at that.

Also, Sony and their indie policies isn't really anything to do with the services, so not sure why you brought that up. MS allowed indies to self publish on the 360, and we just ended up with all the shit of the day.

So yeah, try and stay on topic. The fact that PSN is getting overhauled for the PS4 (to be more like XBL) should be proof enough that its inferior. Clearly even Sony recognises that.

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

..so now cows are justifying paying to play online...

 

 

:lol::lol::lol:

Chris_Williams

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] ..funny when psn is more open than xbox live is, reason mmo's and steamworks isn't on it and also why indy devs are all going to sony and pc "If you haven't heard fez 2 won't appear on any xbox systems" . So please stop being fanboy you are embarrassing yourself

Chris_Williams

And what value has that brought to PSN? Absolutely nothing.

You know the funny thing is I started up U3 multiplayer yesterday (first time ever playing it) and had to download some things (including a 343MB update LOL) and I had to download the Online pass thing which took me to the OLD PSN STORE UI. What a f*cking embarrassment. It just goes to show the service is a mish-mash of crap Sony has come up with to play catchup to XBL. Maybe I look at things differently to everyone else as I dabble in UI design, but I literally facepalmed at that.

Also, Sony and their indie policies isn't really anything to do with the services, so not sure why you brought that up. MS allowed indies to self publish on the 360, and we just ended up with all the shit of the day.

So yeah, try and stay on topic. The fact that PSN is getting overhauled for the PS4 (to be more like XBL) should be proof enough that its inferior. Clearly even Sony recognises that.

[QUOTE="rell84"]

the reaching is very strong coming from xbox stans funny lems wanted online to drop free so they could have bragging rights but nope all they hear is how ps4 will have cross game chat without having ps plus d@mn :lol:

PonchoTaco

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] ..funny when psn is more open than xbox live is, reason mmo's and steamworks isn't on it and also why indy devs are all going to sony and pc "If you haven't heard fez 2 won't appear on any xbox systems" . So please stop being fanboy you are embarrassing yourself

Chris_Williams

And what value has that brought to PSN? Absolutely nothing.

You know the funny thing is I started up U3 multiplayer yesterday (first time ever playing it) and had to download some things (including a 343MB update LOL) and I had to download the Online pass thing which took me to the OLD PSN STORE UI. What a f*cking embarrassment. It just goes to show the service is a mish-mash of crap Sony has come up with to play catchup to XBL. Maybe I look at things differently to everyone else as I dabble in UI design, but I literally facepalmed at that.

Also, Sony and their indie policies isn't really anything to do with the services, so not sure why you brought that up. MS allowed indies to self publish on the 360, and we just ended up with all the shit of the day.

So yeah, try and stay on topic. The fact that PSN is getting overhauled for the PS4 (to be more like XBL) should be proof enough that its inferior. Clearly even Sony recognises that.

PSN+ is a cool service. I don't remember denying that, and if it drives MS to offer something similar on XONE (it hasn't yet) then thats good for us.

Still doesn't change the fact XBL is currently the better service.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="PonchoTaco"] That's pretty much it. Cows now try to justify paying for what was free last gen. It was a foreseeable result.PonchoTaco

..so now cows are justifying paying to play online...

 U MAD OH HE MAD PLAYSTATION :lol:

 

:lol::lol::lol:

OhSnapitz

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

And what value has that brought to PSN? Absolutely nothing.

You know the funny thing is I started up U3 multiplayer yesterday (first time ever playing it) and had to download some things (including a 343MB update LOL) and I had to download the Online pass thing which took me to the OLD PSN STORE UI. What a f*cking embarrassment. It just goes to show the service is a mish-mash of crap Sony has come up with to play catchup to XBL. Maybe I look at things differently to everyone else as I dabble in UI design, but I literally facepalmed at that.

Also, Sony and their indie policies isn't really anything to do with the services, so not sure why you brought that up. MS allowed indies to self publish on the 360, and we just ended up with all the shit of the day.

So yeah, try and stay on topic. The fact that PSN is getting overhauled for the PS4 (to be more like XBL) should be proof enough that its inferior. Clearly even Sony recognises that.

RR360DD

PSN+ is a cool service. I don't remember denying that, and if it drives MS to offer something similar on XONE (it hasn't yet) then thats good for us.

Still doesn't change the fact XBL is currently the better service.

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"][QUOTE="rell84"]

the reaching is very strong coming from xbox stans funny lems wanted online to drop free so they could have bragging rights but nope all they hear is how ps4 will have cross game chat without having ps plus d@mn :lol:

rell84

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] WE PAYED FOR IT AND LAUGH AT YOU GUYS FOR PLAYING ON A FREE PIECE OF CRAP, NOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO MAKE IT A BETTER SERVICE AND ACTUALLY ADD VALUE TO PAYING FOR ONLINE WITH PSN PLUS, WE STILL ARE GOING TO LAUGH AT YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE ARE SO COOL AND LEEET.Chris_Williams

i guess i shouldve been more clearer ps plus >>>>>>>> any ms online services 

i guess i shouldve been more clearer ps plus >>>>>>>> any ms online services 

rell84

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="PonchoTaco"] I've never payed for online :?PonchoTaco

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] with microsoft trying to offer free games sounds like xbox live is trying to become ps +, see how that works fanboyChris_Williams

PSN+ is a cool service. I don't remember denying that, and if it drives MS to offer something similar on XONE (it hasn't yet) then thats good for us.

Still doesn't change the fact XBL is currently the better service.

Having a superior browser is one aspect that makes the service better, yes.

[QUOTE="rell84"]

i guess i shouldve been more clearer ps plus >>>>>>>> any ms online services 

PonchoTaco

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"][QUOTE="rell84"]

i guess i shouldve been more clearer ps plus >>>>>>>> any ms online services 

legalize82

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]But now cows have to pay for the exact same thing that free last gen. :?

Chris_Williams

XBL= paying for ads, paying to use Netflix and apps behind a pay wall, only now paying to get 2 free (extremely old) games till end of the year.

PS+ = 8 free games a month indefinitely, Store discounts, cloud saves, access to early betas, Auto-updates, $10 cheaper.

All that and you can still play F2P without PS+ subscription. PS+ is better and even M$ knows this that;'s why they copied PS+ by giving lems 2 free games till the end of the year (lol Halo 3). :lol: When you have to list music and movies being better on XBL and dedicated servers (lol PSN had this since RFOM in 2006 while Gears was still using P2P) then you know you've lost the whole argument.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

PSN+ is a cool service. I don't remember denying that, and if it drives MS to offer something similar on XONE (it hasn't yet) then thats good for us.

Still doesn't change the fact XBL is currently the better service.

RR360DD

Having a superior browser is one aspect that makes the service better, yes.

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] you say that like thats suppose to matter to me? Also if there is a game i wanna play and is multiplayer i will more than likely get it on my pc though honestly i hardly touch multiplayer on games. So i have psn plus but it ain't for multiplayer so in the end it doesn't bother me.But it bothers you alot, lollegalize82

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

..so now cows are justifying paying to play online...

 

 

 

:lol::lol::lol:

tormentos

No not all of us are.

Paying for online gaming is a rip off no matter who does it.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] so putting netflix, internet browsing behind a paywall is a better service to you? Okay thenChris_Williams

Having a superior browser is one aspect that makes the service better, yes.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]Thanks to lemmings. If XBL wasn't such a success with dumb lems Sony wouldn't have had a need to copy M$ in that regard. Anyways, PS+ is still a much better deal than XBL which is why I'm an annual subscriber for it on PS3 even without the need to have it to play online :cool:.I_can_haz

XBL= paying for ads, paying to use Netflix and apps behind a pay wall, only now paying to get 2 free (extremely old) games till end of the year.

PS+ = 8 free games a month indefinitely, Store discounts, cloud saves, access to early betas, Auto-updates, $10 cheaper.

All that and you can still play F2P without PS+ subscription. PS+ is better and even M$ knows this that;'s why they copied PS+ by giving lems 2 free games till the end of the year (lol Halo 3). :lol: When you have to list music and movies being better on XBL and dedicated servers (lol PSN had this since RFOM in 2006 while Gears was still using P2P) then you know you've lost the whole argument.