Proof the Wii-U is more powerful then the Xbox 360 and PS3

oh stop arguing this you're basically saying a future next gen system will be slightly more powerful than a console nearly 7 years oldlamprey263

If anything, the Wii:U will do HD cartoon style graphics.

Don't expect an ultra realistic game.

A sad state of affairs when there's a doubt if "next gen" hardware is superior to 6 year old consoles.MFDOOM1983

My hypothetical Wii CPU (but I don't think it was the route they took:

I think a 3.2 GHz quad-core CPU based on Power5 with 128 VMX or even 256 bit VSX, plenty of L2, 32 nm process and GDDR5 support would make an interesting case for a Wii CPU. The dual issue and two way SMT would be familiar with developers, but the OoO architecture would help to cut down on stalls that Xenon suffersfrom. The extra full core, OoO architecture and huge real world GFLOPS capability would certainly be a nice jump in performance in reference to Xenon and Cell in basic processing power. With a quad core set up, 3 or 4 MB L2 cache, the die size, power usage and thermals shouldn't be heavy, well under 600 million transistors and at most 150 mm² in size.

Whether SoC or seperate GPU die, I would use a unified memory architecture for the sake of price and to try and keep memory modules cheaper and more centralized for cost and thermal management.

And I hope everything you said is true, because if a console coming out 7 years later is weaker that would be straight up pathetic.

the real question is how much more powerful it's than the PS3/360 not that if it's more powerful TheGrudge13

How much more powerful the WiiU is to the 360/PS3 is irrelavent until we know the specs of the 720/PS4.

Ok people, IGN reported that the Wii-U will only be 20% less powerful then the Xbox 720. That's not a huge difference at all. Also the Xbox 720 is supposedly using a AMD Radeon 6670 which is a bit better then Wii-U's GPU, but not by much at all. Also the PS4 reportedly is using a Radeon HD 7770, which is basically the same as the 6670 and have similar performance. The difference next gen won't even be close to this gen. Also the graphical tech demos and the fact that many developers have said that the Wii-U versions of ports will be enhanced over the Xbox 360 and PS3 games. It's not even funny how dumb trolls try to be some times. FPS1337

lol, it better be it is coming out 7 years after the 360.

my phone probably has pretty close specs to the 360 and ps3 by now.

Riverwolf007

iPad 3's PowerVR SGX 543MP4 @ 250Mhz** is just Intel GMA 3600 IGP (aka PowerVR SGX545 @400Mhz) scaled about two times (not factoring scaling overheads) i.e. it would not beat my tablet's AMD Radeon HD 6250M IGP.

** Anandtech's Ipad 3's PowerVR SGX 543MP4 @ 250Mhz

Die sizes..

Apple's A5X (iPad 3)

AMD Z-01 APU's die size is around 74mm^2 i.e. smaller than Tegra 3.

In 3DMarks 2006 (1280x1024) benchmarks, AMD Z-01 APU's Radeon HD 6250M IGP murders Intel GMA 3600 IGP about five to six times over.

It will be more powerful than current gen consoles

...but only by as much as the Wii was over GCN, Xbox & PS2.

PatchMaster

It will be more powerful than current gen consoles

...but only by as much as the Wii was over GCN, Xbox & PS2.

PatchMaster

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

It will be more powerful than current gen consoles

...but only by as much as the Wii was over GCN, Xbox & PS2.

soapandbubbles

[QUOTE="TheGrudge13"]the real question is how much more powerful it's than the PS3/360 not that if it's more powerful Sik_kid_pk

How much more powerful the WiiU is to the 360/PS3 is irrelavent until we know the specs of the 720/PS4.

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

It will be more powerful than current gen consoles

...but only by as much as the Wii was over GCN, Xbox & PS2.

nintendoboy16

So basically you're saying the wii-u will have the gpu power of my 3 year old pc.

Truly next gen stuff.

Also 4890 can't max crysis or crysis 2.

So basically you're saying the wii-u will have the gpu power of my 3 year old pc.

Truly next gen stuff.

Also 4890 can't max crysis or crysis 2.

kraken2109

How about stop comparing console and PC hardware? You don't need the same power a PC needs for good results on a console and it's not ment to compete with 500 dollar/euro latest graphics cards.

A 4890 would max Crysis in 1080p easily on a console but I'd rather see a newer and more efficient design (a 7750 for example).

Is it hard to differentiate between 'then' and 'than'?

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="runbleduck"]oh please, remember before the Wii came out there were all sorts of these official statements claiming that the Wii is very powerful, despite all sorts of rumors and anonymous insiders claiming otherwise. There were even plenty of bullshots like the ones from Red Steel. Enough with the denials and just accept that Nintendo pulled the same con again, except this time their new console won't even be on par with last gen's 360/ps3 hardware. dontshackzmii

:lol:

They did galaxy was stunning.

A sad state of affairs when there's a doubt if "next gen" hardware is superior to 6 year old consoles.MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] "wii graphics will make you say wow." - iwata

:lol:

MFDOOM1983

They did galaxy was stunning.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

They did galaxy was stunning.

LastRambo341

Wii can't do the game justice. Blurry sd images blown up on large hd sets is never a pretty thing to see. Thankfully we have dolphin unlocking the true potential in wii games like smg1/2. Too bad wii u can't upscale(at least not currently announced) old games like 360 or ps3(ps2 bc units) can.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Only on dolphin. ;)

MFDOOM1983

Wii can't do the game justice. Blurry sd images blown up on large hd sets is never a pretty thing to see. Thankfully we have dolphin unlocking the true potential in wii games like smg1/2. Too bad wii u can't upscale(at least not currently announced) old games like 360 or ps3(ps2 bc units) can.

lol, it better be it is coming out 7 years after the 360.

my phone probably has pretty close specs to the 360 and ps3 by now.

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]A sad state of affairs when there's a doubt if "next gen" hardware is superior to 6 year old consoles.LastRambo341

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Even without dolphinnintendoboy16

Wii can't do the game justice. Blurry sd images blown up on large hd sets is never a pretty thing to see. Thankfully we have dolphin unlocking the true potential in wii games like smg1/2. Too bad wii u can't upscale(at least not currently announced) old games like 360 or ps3(ps2 bc units) can.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]I guess It's quite possible to think that smg looks amazing(outputting through wii) if you set your expectations to the lowest levels imaginable.

Wii can't do the game justice. Blurry sd images blown up on large hd sets is never a pretty thing to see. Thankfully we have dolphin unlocking the true potential in wii games like smg1/2. Too bad wii u can't upscale(at least not currently announced) old games like 360 or ps3(ps2 bc units) can.

MFDOOM1983

In Mario Galaxy's case, I don't see it working on HD hardware like it does on Wii and that marine animal doesn't count.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]A sad state of affairs when there's a doubt if "next gen" hardware is superior to 6 year old consoles.MFDOOM1983

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]I doubt HD consoles would do that game justice.nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

So basically you're saying the wii-u will have the gpu power of my 3 year old pc.

Truly next gen stuff.

Also 4890 can't max crysis or crysis 2.

nameless12345

How about stop comparing console and PC hardware? You don't need the same power a PC needs for good results on a console and it's not ment to compete with 500 dollar/euro latest graphics cards.

A 4890 would max Crysis in 1080p easily on a console but I'd rather see a newer and more efficient design (a 7750 for example).

Also Wii-U is rumoured to have 768mb of ram, which isn't enough for Crysis.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

So basically you're saying the wii-u will have the gpu power of my 3 year old pc.

Truly next gen stuff.

Also 4890 can't max crysis or crysis 2.

kraken2109

How about stop comparing console and PC hardware? You don't need the same power a PC needs for good results on a console and it's not ment to compete with 500 dollar/euro latest graphics cards.

A 4890 would max Crysis in 1080p easily on a console but I'd rather see a newer and more efficient design (a 7750 for example).

Also Wii-U is rumoured to have 768mb of ram, which isn't enough for Crysis.

Who cares? Crysis is a boring game and just a tech-demo for graphics ho's :P

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

How about stop comparing console and PC hardware? You don't need the same power a PC needs for good results on a console and it's not ment to compete with 500 dollar/euro latest graphics cards.

A 4890 would max Crysis in 1080p easily on a console but I'd rather see a newer and more efficient design (a 7750 for example).

nameless12345

Also Wii-U is rumoured to have 768mb of ram, which isn't enough for Crysis.

Who cares? Crysis is a boring game and just a tech-demo for graphics ho's :P

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] 7750 is weaker than a 4890.

Also Wii-U is rumoured to have 768mb of ram, which isn't enough for Crysis.

kraken2109

Who cares? Crysis is a boring game and just a tech-demo for graphics ho's :P

somebody has no taste in games

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

So basically you're saying the wii-u will have the gpu power of my 3 year old pc.

Truly next gen stuff.

Also 4890 can't max crysis or crysis 2.

kraken2109

How about stop comparing console and PC hardware? You don't need the same power a PC needs for good results on a console and it's not ment to compete with 500 dollar/euro latest graphics cards.

A 4890 would max Crysis in 1080p easily on a console but I'd rather see a newer and more efficient design (a 7750 for example).

Also Wii-U is rumoured to have 768mb of ram, which isn't enough for Crysis.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] 7750 is weaker than a 4890.

Also Wii-U is rumoured to have 768mb of ram, which isn't enough for Crysis.

kraken2109

Who cares? Crysis is a boring game and just a tech-demo for graphics ho's :P

I did, actually. Nice graphics but bored me to death ;)

So basically you're saying the wii-u will have the gpu power of my 3 year old pc.

Truly next gen stuff.

Also 4890 can't max crysis or crysis 2.

kraken2109

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

So basically you're saying the wii-u will have the gpu power of my 3 year old pc.

Truly next gen stuff.

Also 4890 can't max crysis or crysis 2.

kraken2109

How about stop comparing console and PC hardware? You don't need the same power a PC needs for good results on a console and it's not ment to compete with 500 dollar/euro latest graphics cards.

A 4890 would max Crysis in 1080p easily on a console but I'd rather see a newer and more efficient design (a 7750 for example).

Also Wii-U is rumoured to have 768mb of ram, which isn't enough for Crysis.

You know its sad when people are arguing whether or not Nintendo's NEXT GEN console will compare with 7 year old consoles :lol:StrongDeadlift

So basically you're saying the wii-u will have the gpu power of my 3 year old pc.

Truly next gen stuff.

Also 4890 can't max crysis or crysis 2.

kraken2109

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

So basically you're saying the wii-u will have the gpu power of my 3 year old pc.

Truly next gen stuff.

Also 4890 can't max crysis or crysis 2.

kraken2109

How about stop comparing console and PC hardware? You don't need the same power a PC needs for good results on a console and it's not ment to compete with 500 dollar/euro latest graphics cards.

A 4890 would max Crysis in 1080p easily on a console but I'd rather see a newer and more efficient design (a 7750 for example).

7750 is weaker than a 4890.

Also Wii-U is rumoured to have 768mb of ram, which isn't enough for Crysis.

AMD Kaveri APU's 7750 IGP is clocked at ~900Mhz. Current reference 7750 is clocked at 800Mhz.

With Compute Shaders, 7750 GCN beats the old VLIW5 powered 5770.

On SmallLuxGPU (Raytracing) OpenCL benchmark, 7750 murders the old 4870.

Why are we even talking about this. 360 came out 7 years ago, I think it would be a huge disappointment if it was not more powerful than a 360 or Ps3.