Nintendo confirms Pokemon X and Y will have more ways to level up, some of the new ways introduced such as:

• In Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, your Pokémon gain experience even when the opposing wild Pokémon is caught, according to a summary of the interview on Bulbagarden. Caught Pokémon will give the same amount of EXP as defeated Pokémon.
• the item Exp. Share will provide experience to all Pokémon in the party, not just the one that participated in battle. The participating Pokémon will receive 100% of the total EXP, while non-participating Pokémon will receive 50% each.

Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2013/09/25/pokemon-x-pokemon-y-make-levelling-easier/#1pmZzphmOe2Lq67C.99

Some pretty good stuff, game gets better everyday :D

Honestly I have no issue with that. But I'm waiting for the "hardcore" players to come in here and start whining.

Hell yes. I hate grinding so this is great. The first one is basically nothing since wild pokemon tend to barely give out XP anyway. The XP share is superb though, and since it's optional no one can bitch about it.tagyhag

The first games are objectively the worst games in the series.

Too bad levleing with teh EXP share is terrible for EV training unless you switch the other pokes in anyway. :( 

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Hell yes. I hate grinding so this is great. The first one is basically nothing since wild pokemon tend to barely give out XP anyway. The XP share is superb though, and since it's optional no one can bitch about it.turtlethetaffer

The first games are objectively the worst games in the series.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Hell yes. I hate grinding so this is great. The first one is basically nothing since wild pokemon tend to barely give out XP anyway. The XP share is superb though, and since it's optional no one can bitch about it.Jonwh18

The first games are objectively the worst games in the series.

Glad someone agrees.  I can understand the nostalgia value, but as far as technicality goes, it's objectively the worst. Gold/ Silver/ Crystal improved on it so much that the originals are obsolete apart from nostalgia boners.  Not saying they are bad but people who act like they;re the best in the series are just fooling themselves.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Hell yes. I hate grinding so this is great. The first one is basically nothing since wild pokemon tend to barely give out XP anyway. The XP share is superb though, and since it's optional no one can bitch about it.turtlethetaffer

The first games are objectively the worst games in the series.

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The first games are objectively the worst games in the series.

turtlethetaffer

Glad someone agrees.  I can understand the nostalgia value, but as far as technicality goes, it's objectively the worst. Gold/ Silver/ Crystal improved on it so much that the originals are obsolete apart from nostalgia boners.  Not saying they are bad but people who act like they;re the best in the series are just fooling themselves.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Hell yes. I hate grinding so this is great. The first one is basically nothing since wild pokemon tend to barely give out XP anyway. The XP share is superb though, and since it's optional no one can bitch about it.tagyhag

The first games are objectively the worst games in the series.

You mentioned how meager the first games were with EXP. just thought I'd mention it in general.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"] Ohh, most definately. 

Silenthps

Glad someone agrees.  I can understand the nostalgia value, but as far as technicality goes, it's objectively the worst. Gold/ Silver/ Crystal improved on it so much that the originals are obsolete apart from nostalgia boners.  Not saying they are bad but people who act like they;re the best in the series are just fooling themselves.

The same could be applied to every game series.

 

• the item Exp. Share will provide experience to all Pokémon in the party, not just the one that participated in battle. The participating Pokémon will receive 100% of the total EXP, while non-participating Pokémon will receive 50% each.

finalstar2007

Not pleased with this one. This will make EV training a lot more cumbersome.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The first games are objectively the worst games in the series.

turtlethetaffer

You mentioned how meager the first games were with EXP. just thought I'd mention it in general.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] O...kay? :PBlabadon

You mentioned how meager the first games were with EXP. just thought I'd mention it in general.

So they made the easiest JRPG even easier? :lol:

Funny as hell but it's Pokemon. There is no difficult in the main game to begin with.

So they made the easiest JRPG even easier? :lol:

Funny as hell but it's Pokemon. There is no difficult in the main game to begin with.

FlamesOfGrey

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

So they made the easiest JRPG even easier? :lol:

Funny as hell but it's Pokemon. There is no difficult in the main game to begin with.

HarlockJC

Sounds greatHarlockJC

That's good, grinding sucks.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

So they made the easiest JRPG even easier? :lol:

Funny as hell but it's Pokemon. There is no difficult in the main game to begin with.

FlamesOfGrey

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] You don't have to use the item if you don't want to. Jonwh18

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] I'm just saying if there's one JRPG that doesn't need anything to make it easier it's Pokemon. Since Red & Blue, I haven't had any problem with any of the games. Only challenge comes from competitive battles.FlamesOfGrey

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] Yes becuase grinding is hard right? It's such a challenge? No it's just a time sink that artifically lengthens a game. The only hard thing about grinding is watching the hours go by as you waste you time. 

Jonwh18

Just give us the VS seeker key item, and I will forever love this game.bbkkristian

Good, training is fun when you're doing the campaign but a pain in the ass all other times.

I know what the item is and that it's optional. Exp. Share has been around for a long time in the games and I've been playing Pokemon since Red and Blue. I still think it's funny that they're tweaking Exp Share to make the game easier regardless. FlamesOfGrey

Alot of JRPGs especially First Person Dungeon Crawlers have tough grinding. This is especially true for alot of older games like Wizardry and the earlier SMT games. Modern JRPGs seem to be getting easier by the year to appeal to a more mainstream userbase. If you played alot of games from the late 80's and 90's you'd have to grind and have face tough battles while grinding up until a certain level. Games like Pokemon are just cake and you really don't even need to grind much at all for the main game if you use the type advantages.FlamesOfGrey

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] I know what the item is and that it's optional. Exp. Share has been around for a long time in the games and I've been playing Pokemon since Red and Blue. I still think it's funny that they're tweaking Exp Share to make the game easier regardless. cain006

Alot of JRPGs especially First Person Dungeon Crawlers have tough grinding. This is especially true for alot of older games like Wizardry and the earlier SMT games. Modern JRPGs seem to be getting easier by the year to appeal to a more mainstream userbase. If you played alot of games from the late 80's and 90's you'd have to grind and have face tough battles while grinding up until a certain level. Games like Pokemon are just cake and you really don't even need to grind much at all for the main game if you use the type advantages.FlamesOfGrey

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

So they made the easiest JRPG even easier? :lol:

Funny as hell but it's Pokemon. There is no difficult in the main game to begin with.

FlamesOfGrey

You seem to be missing the point. GameFreak is finally catering to the people that competitive battle.

Making EV's easier to get, being able to level up your potential teams faster, the entire online system revamped and a focus on your character is all for those that enjoy going online to battle with others.

This is fantastic stuff. Who plays Pokemon for the main storyline anyway?

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] You don't have to use the item if you don't want to. Crazyguy105

You seem to be missing the point. GameFreak is finally catering to the people that competitive battle.

Making EV's easier to get, being able to level up your potential teams faster, the entire online system revamped and a focus on your character is all for those that enjoy going online to battle with others.

This is fantastic stuff. Who plays Pokemon for the main storyline anyway?

[QUOTE="Crazyguy105"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] I'm just saying if there's one JRPG that doesn't need anything to make it easier it's Pokemon. Since Red & Blue, I haven't had any problem with any of the games. Only challenge comes from competitive battles.FlamesOfGrey

You seem to be missing the point. GameFreak is finally catering to the people that competitive battle.

Making EV's easier to get, being able to level up your potential teams faster, the entire online system revamped and a focus on your character is all for those that enjoy going online to battle with others.

This is fantastic stuff. Who plays Pokemon for the main storyline anyway?

Well the target demographic for Pokemon is kids, and they don't want to lose their market by making the games harder during the story.

They acknowledge this by making tougher post game challenges like Battle Frontier and the World Tournament, stuff that older people will stick around and try beating.

I dunno, I feel its a great way to keep both demographics happy. 

My point is they're making an easy game easier and I find it funny since it's unnecessary in my opinion . Is it that hard to grasp?FlamesOfGrey

There's no reason that getting a pokemon to level 50 should take more than half an hour once you've beaten the elite four in my opinion. The required mindless hours of training is just stupid.

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] My point is they're making an easy game easier and I find it funny since it's unnecessary in my opinion . Is it that hard to grasp?cain006

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] My point is they're making an easy game easier and I find it funny since it's unnecessary in my opinion . Is it that hard to grasp?cain006

There's no reason that getting a pokemon to level 50 should take more than half an hour once you've beaten the elite four in my opinion. The required mindless hours of training is just stupid.

GTA V was easier as well, that's just what games that are made these days do. Deal with it.

Good, grinding isn't difficulty it's just forced tedium. Plus it makes it much easier to train up extra Pokemon to take on post game facilities.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Glad someone agrees.  I can understand the nostalgia value, but as far as technicality goes, it's objectively the worst. Gold/ Silver/ Crystal improved on it so much that the originals are obsolete apart from nostalgia boners.  Not saying they are bad but people who act like they;re the best in the series are just fooling themselves.

turtlethetaffer

The same could be applied to every game series.

Are people in this thread seriously complaining about, let me emphasize this so the ridiculousness of this is not missed on anybody,

Pokemon being easy?

charizard1605

The level system in White and Black was very consistent. Grinding didn't feel completely forced either. Was really balanced and it made every gym leader feel somewhat challenging. 

The level system in Heartgold/Soulsilver and Firered/Leafgreen were terrible. You leveled up way too fast.

The level system in White and Black was very consistent. Grinding didn't feel completely forced either. Was really balanced and it made every gym leader feel somewhat challenging. 

The level system in Heartgold/Soulsilver and Firered/Leafgreen were terrible. You leveled up way too fast.

Gaming-Planet

Really? I find that grinding in Heartgold is tough. I always felt like they didn;t give enough EXP, at least in Mt. Silver.

[QUOTE="Gaming-Planet"]

The level system in White and Black was very consistent. Grinding didn't feel completely forced either. Was really balanced and it made every gym leader feel somewhat challenging. 

The level system in Heartgold/Soulsilver and Firered/Leafgreen were terrible. You leveled up way too fast.

turtlethetaffer

Really? I find that grinding in Heartgold is tough. I always felt like they didn;t give enough EXP, at least in Mt. Silver.

Dude me too. I couldn't finish SoulSilver because of how bad leveling up felt. It took ages early on in the game because the EXP depended on the Pokemon instead of their level.

So glad B/W changed that and made the level of the mon matter, instead of the species.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Gaming-Planet"]

The level system in White and Black was very consistent. Grinding didn't feel completely forced either. Was really balanced and it made every gym leader feel somewhat challenging. 

The level system in Heartgold/Soulsilver and Firered/Leafgreen were terrible. You leveled up way too fast.

Crazyguy105

Really? I find that grinding in Heartgold is tough. I always felt like they didn;t give enough EXP, at least in Mt. Silver.

Dude me too. I couldn't finish SoulSilver because of how bad leveling up felt. It took ages early on in the game because the EXP depended on the Pokemon instead of their level.

So glad B/W changed that and made the level of the mon matter, instead of the species.

I meant in the post game team building.  During the main story, I didn't ever have too much trouble with leveling up as long as I used about four Pokemon (which I did) but when trying to make my "ideal team" (not competitive, just a team I wanted) I found that Mt. Silver was really difficult to level up my higher level guys in.

White 2 was really bad to grind during the story.  Unless you had two or three Pokemon picked out that you wanted to use, leveling up was abysmal.  Wild Pokemon were so low level that you'd never get more than like nine hundred EXP until Victory Road.  This was really really bad. One of the weaknesses of the game IMO.