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#1 xion1234
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what happen to the sony brand the ps1 and ps2 destroy nintendo and xbox what happend this gen????

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#2 Floppy_Jim
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It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.
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#3 killerfist
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cheaper alternatives I guess

and it released way to late, or the 360 released way too early

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#4 Jakendo
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It takes the soul of three infants to make a PS3. People really dont want to support that. Thus, they lose sales.
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#5 SpruceCaboose
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It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Floppy_Jim

This post hit the bullseye.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.SpruceCaboose

This post hit the bullseye.

It is more than that though , they could have launched at $400 but the Wiimote/Wii Sports hype would have been enough to top it.

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#7 eklineage
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its from the price. Most ppl don't really care for the cutting edge graphics. As long as the graphics are satisfactory, it is all good. The 360/ps3 comparison threads are just ridiculous.

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#8 xion1234
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lol i wonder why people hate the ps3 is it because you cant buy it or what?

dont say game because when they talk about the 360 all they can say is gear and halo lol

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#9 IvyCassandra
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PS3 is the best system this gen. Anyone who denies that is just a fanboy.
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#10 killerfist
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lol i wonder why people hate the ps3 is it because you cant buy it or what?

xion1234

off topic much?

he asked a question. why isnt the ps3 destoying the competition like it did the 2 gens before this one?

answer: too expensive and too late

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#11 WillieBeamish
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The PS3 had too many broken promises. Also, it lacks good games. When it hits $199 people might want it.
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#12 killerfist
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PS3 is the best system this gen. Anyone who denies that is just a fanboy.IvyCassandra
yeah and MGS4 has 8xAA
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#13 Syk0_k03r
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the only reason why the PS3 is the worst selling this gen is cuz of its price tag at launch, which led it to be hated

not the online service, cuz XBL was the best last gen, and yet PS2 outsold the xbox

not the games either, cuz the DC had better games within the first year of launch, but it didnt stop the PS2. did it?

if the ps3 retailed for 400 at launch, people would have been buying it for blu ray and for games

i hope sony realized where they went wrong, and have their next system launched at 400 at the most

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#14 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Nike_Air

This post hit the bullseye.

It is more than that though , they could have launched at $400 but the Wiimote/Wii Sports hype would have been enough to top it.

I think that was the whole thing. If they would have launched the PS3 for $300, which had been the industry norm, the PS3 would be dominating the industry like the PS2 did. At least that is what I believe.

Sony slipped hard at the wrong time, and the much more friendly priced Wii was there to take over.

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#15 kentaro22
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.SpruceCaboose

This post hit the bullseye.

It is more than that though , they could have launched at $400 but the Wiimote/Wii Sports hype would have been enough to top it.

I think that was the whole thing. If they would have launched the PS3 for $300, which had been the industry norm, the PS3 would be dominating the industry like the PS2 did. At least that is what I believe.

Sony slipped hard at the wrong time, and the much more friendly priced Wii was there to take over.

I think you're dead on. Sony needs to be pushing to lower costs and having a price drop, and they need to do this yesterday.
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.SpruceCaboose

This post hit the bullseye.

It is more than that though , they could have launched at $400 but the Wiimote/Wii Sports hype would have been enough to top it.

I think that was the whole thing. If they would have launched the PS3 for $300, which had been the industry norm, the PS3 would be dominating the industry like the PS2 did. At least that is what I believe.

Sony slipped hard at the wrong time, and the much more friendly priced Wii was there to take over.

$300.00 (2000) = $381.68 (2008 ) with inflation

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.FragTycoon

This post hit the bullseye.

It is more than that though , they could have launched at $400 but the Wiimote/Wii Sports hype would have been enough to top it.

I think that was the whole thing. If they would have launched the PS3 for $300, which had been the industry norm, the PS3 would be dominating the industry like the PS2 did. At least that is what I believe.

Sony slipped hard at the wrong time, and the much more friendly priced Wii was there to take over.

$300.00 (2000) = $381.68 (2008 ) with inflation

They could have tried to sell it at $400. Maybe they would have succeeded and maybe they wouldn't.

The consumers dictate the price of goods which have viable substitutes - not the manufacturers.

Sony forgot that and priced themselves out of the leadership position.

Historically consumers have said that $200 is the the price the majority are willing to pay for a console. Sony has put themselves in a position where it will be difficult for them to reach that mark anytime soon.

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#19 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.FragTycoon

This post hit the bullseye.

It is more than that though , they could have launched at $400 but the Wiimote/Wii Sports hype would have been enough to top it.

I think that was the whole thing. If they would have launched the PS3 for $300, which had been the industry norm, the PS3 would be dominating the industry like the PS2 did. At least that is what I believe.

Sony slipped hard at the wrong time, and the much more friendly priced Wii was there to take over.

$300.00 (2000) = $381.68 (2008 ) with inflation

PSOne launched in 1995 at $300. The PS2 launched at $300 in 1999. I say they should have launched it at the normal price for the industry, not inflation.

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#20 agentfred
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It is more than that though , they could have launched at $400 but the Wiimote/Wii Sports hype would have been enough to top it.Nike_Air

I disagree.

Frankly, I think the hype for the PS3 outmatched the Wii. If I remember correctly, the PS3 was in such high demand at launch, they were selling for 2000+ on Ebay. The reason why this didn't keep up was simply a lack of games. Compared to the 360, it seemed to lack games, and compared to the Wii, it seemed to lack ingenuity. All that, and it was one of the most expensive consoles ever.

The Ps3 was stuck between these two, and it quickly lost all the hype it had gotten pre-launch. We started to see those 2000 dollar sales drop down, even below retail price IIRC.

For almost two years now, Sony has been trying to rebuild the reputation it lost in a few short months.

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#21 Thewbacca
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It takes the soul of three infants to make a PS3. People really dont want to support that. Thus, they lose sales. Jakendo
No, buying a 360 condemns 4 kinds with cancer to death. Seriously. Look up Folding@Home.

And thats the problem - the market grew superficial. They believed the hype, and wouldn't look at the Ps3s benefits. It will change decidedly in 2009, but right now its just got negatie buzz surrounding it.

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#23 Simulator_Shock
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[QUOTE="IvyCassandra"]PS3 is the best system this gen. Anyone who denies that is just a fanboy.Simulator_Shock

Says the Sony fanboy. MOOOOOOOOO!!!!

you know what? I think I'm going to out that in my sig XD Thats the funniest thing I've read in a while.

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It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Floppy_Jim

And it had no games for its launch.

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#25 Thewbacca
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Simulator_Shock

And it had no games for its launch.

What the hell were Resistance:Fall of Man and Motorstorm, then?

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#26 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Simulator_Shock"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Thewbacca

And it had no games for its launch.

What the hell were Resistance:Fall of Man and Motorstorm, then?

He meant no good games. Technically, take away multiplats, and they still don't have enough good games. Some, but not enough.

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#27 Thewbacca
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[QUOTE="Thewbacca"][QUOTE="Simulator_Shock"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Phazevariance

And it had no games for its launch.

What the hell were Resistance:Fall of Man and Motorstorm, then?

He meant no good games. Technically, take away multiplats, and they still don't have enough good games. Some, but not enough.

Once again, what do you call Resistance: Fall of Man and Motorstorm?
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#28 Rafinator
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the only reason why the PS3 is the worst selling this gen is cuz of its price tag at launch, which led it to be hated

not the online service, cuz XBL was the best last gen, and yet PS2 outsold the xbox

not the games either, cuz the DC had better games within the first year of launch, but it didnt stop the PS2. did it?

if the ps3 retailed for 400 at launch, people would have been buying it for blu ray and for games

i hope sony realized where they went wrong, and have their next system launched at 400 at the most

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what happen to the sony brand the ps1 and ps2 destroy nintendo and xbox what happend this gen????

xion1234
basically Wii.
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#30 ozmatic77
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lol the xbox 360 has nothing to boast about...and niether does the ps3...the only success story this gen was the nintendo wii
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#31 wile315
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It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Floppy_Jim

ROFL, so true.

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#32 ReverseCycology
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Don't fret my friends. The PS brand will once again shine with the PS3. The sleeping giant will wake. It's just a matter of time. Two words: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

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#33 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.SpruceCaboose

This post hit the bullseye.

It is more than that though , they could have launched at $400 but the Wiimote/Wii Sports hype would have been enough to top it.

I think that was the whole thing. If they would have launched the PS3 for $300, which had been the industry norm, the PS3 would be dominating the industry like the PS2 did. At least that is what I believe.

Sony slipped hard at the wrong time, and the much more friendly priced Wii was there to take over.

I agree. All the sudden the Playstation brand wasnt the smartest option to the gamer without the deepest pockets. The Playstation has a very loyal fanbase... and that's probably how they got alot of their sales so far - but if the price was more competitive I believe the PS3 would be at least be beating the 360 in terms of sales.

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Don't fret my friends. The PS brand will once again shine with the PS3. The sleeping giant will wake. It's just a matter of time. Two words: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.

ReverseCycology

"360 fanboy"???

:lol: jk

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It takes the soul of three infants to make a PS3. People really dont want to support that. Thus, they lose sales. Jakendo

Erm, okay. That was pretty lame.

But even then, people still eat meat, even though it denies meals from starving kids. Remember 15 pounds of vegetables can only produce 1 pound of meat.

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I think the PS3 will really start to shine in 2009/2010... I think it's going to be difficult for the 360 to keep up this momentum it has. 2008 was the year for 360 exclusives (ie. Halo 3, Gears 2, Fable 2 etc).

As for Wii, who knows. It's more of a "family" console, so it will probably keep selling well. But I think PS3 will start to dominate 360 next year.

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#37 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

$300.00 (2000) = $381.68 (2008 ) with inflation

SpruceCaboose

PSOne launched in 1995 at $300. The PS2 launched at $300 in 1999. I say they should have launched it at the normal price for the industry, not inflation.

Plus if anything, technology is expected to go down in price, not up. (just look at the average cost of a computer today compared to ten years ago, despite the fact that computers today are countless times more powerful)

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I think the PS3 will really start to shine in 2009/2010... I think it's going to be difficult for the 360 to keep up this momentum it has. 2008 was the year for 360 exclusives (ie. Halo 3, Gears 2, Fable 2 etc).

As for Wii, who knows. It's more of a "family" console, so it will probably keep selling well. But I think PS3 will start to dominate 360 next year.

hrt_rulz01

The PS3 was supposed to dominate at launch.

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#39 AgentA-Mi6
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It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Floppy_Jim

That and systematic delays and losses of exclusives Killed the poor system

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#40 SonyMarksman70
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History has taught(um my bad) Playstations have sold at their peak 3 1/2 years + into their life span. Nuff said. Sales don't mean anything but $ anyway, so it doesn't make other consoles superior.Theorically it can but not practically.
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#41 njean777
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price is really the only reason they should have not put in a blu ray player and just launched at 300 40gb hd no wireless and 400 80gb with wireless i think they would have killed the market if they did this.
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#42 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

$300.00 (2000) = $381.68 (2008 ) with inflation

ThePlothole

PSOne launched in 1995 at $300. The PS2 launched at $300 in 1999. I say they should have launched it at the normal price for the industry, not inflation.

Plus if anything, technology is expected to go down in price, not up. (just look at the average cost of a computer today compared to ten years ago, despite the fact that computers today are countless times more powerful)

$300 (1995) = $431.27 (2008 ) with inflation. For the PS2, If it had a standard HDD and LAN card it would add over $150 at the time (estimated by accessory cost)

I'm not saying that the PS3 is not expensive even by past standards. I am saying that It's not AS expensive as people make it out to be.

I don't think anyone can argue that every console not only has new technology but also more hardware in them now (HDD,LAN,WI-FI,CD,DVD,Blu-ray,Wireless controllers,motion control,HD/HDMI,new processors/GPU/RAM,ect).

example: In 1915 the Model T cost $440. Now it's safe to say that cars don't cost that much now day (not ones you want anyway). $440 sounds really cheap, but that equates $9,544.34 today.

I, along with you, would love for everything to stay the same price and have a console in 2020 to have the same price as today. But I know it wont.

One thing that needs to be remembered.... value is subjective.

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#43 opi-14
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I sold my soul to satin paid $600 me then I bought PS3. I love PS3.
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#44 ThePlothole
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I sold my soul to satin paid $600 me then I bought PS3. I love PS3.

opi-14

You sold your soul to a lawyer?

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#45 OrlandoEngelaar
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Sony thought people would buy it anyway but ehhh nope.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Nike_Air

This post hit the bullseye.

It is more than that though , they could have launched at $400 but the Wiimote/Wii Sports hype would have been enough to top it.

The Wii is its own ridiculous phenomenom. The 360 could have been the same price as it and we'd probably still be looking at the same picture today (minus the stillborne PS3.)

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#47 Thewbacca
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[QUOTE="Syk0_k03r"]

the only reason why the PS3 is the worst selling this gen is cuz of its price tag at launch, which led it to be hated

not the online service, cuz XBL was the best last gen, and yet PS2 outsold the xbox

not the games either, cuz the DC had better games within the first year of launch, but it didnt stop the PS2. did it?

if the ps3 retailed for 400 at launch, people would have been buying it for blu ray and for games

i hope sony realized where they went wrong, and have their next system launched at 400 at the most

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you sir, are smart

You sir, are an idiot. I myself would prefer a great console over a much worse, slightly less expensive one - that why I bought a Ps3 over a 360 in the first place.
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#48 Indie_Hitman
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Sony just brought at an unfortuante time and didnt have enough of a wow factor to justify the price. Too bad that the PS3 has been neglected from the publics view as its come out with some really good games now.

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#49 Thewbacca
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[QUOTE="hrt_rulz01"]

I think the PS3 will really start to shine in 2009/2010... I think it's going to be difficult for the 360 to keep up this momentum it has. 2008 was the year for 360 exclusives (ie. Halo 3, Gears 2, Fable 2 etc).

As for Wii, who knows. It's more of a "family" console, so it will probably keep selling well. But I think PS3 will start to dominate 360 next year.

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The PS3 was supposed to dominate at launch.

What gave you that idea?
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#50 Simulator_Shock
Member since 2006 • 1699 Posts
[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"][QUOTE="Simulator_Shock"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It launched at $600. You don't launch a videogame console for $600.Thewbacca

And it had no games for its launch.

What the hell were Resistance:Fall of Man and Motorstorm, then?

He meant no good games. Technically, take away multiplats, and they still don't have enough good games. Some, but not enough.

Once again, what do you call Resistance: Fall of Man and Motorstorm?

If I recall, Motorstorm didn't even come out a few months after the ps3 was out. And only one halfway decent game such as Resistance didn't make the system's launch "full of good games". The Wii and 360 had a much better launch than that.