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#1 BenjaminBanklin
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Phil Spencer claims PlayStation wants to grow ‘by making Xbox smaller’

“Sony is trying to protect its dominance on the console. The way they grow is by making Xbox smaller,” Spencer said.

“[Sony] has a very different view of the industry than we do. They don’t ship their games day and date on PC, they do not put their games into their subscription when they launch their games.”

“Sony is leading the dialogue around why the deal shouldn’t go through to protect its dominant position on console, so the thing they grab onto is Call of Duty,”

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/phil-spencer-claims-playstation-wants-to-grow-by-making-xbox-smaller/

Siiigh. Phil stating this like Microsoft hasn't been the masters of capitalism for almost five decades now. Look, MS. You will never be an underdog in this industry, you currently have one publisher, and many studios under your belt, and you still can't seem to get games out in a timely manner. I don't think the problem is content.

MS can afford to not only buy up pubs, but also take a loss leader strategy by putting all these games under a sub service day one. Never used to hear MS bellyache directly about their rivals, but it sounds like it's getting under their skin. All that talk about Sony not being their competition, but Google, Amazon and others seems to be a great big load of horseshit.

This outburst almost makes it seem like he's trying to lose the ABK deal. You spend years on social media trying to brand a "good guy" image, then you flush it all at once at the first sign of resistance from government agencies. Phil's finally sounding like he has to justify his position of VP of Gaming at Microsoft.

All being said, I'm enjoying this slap fight of trillionaires against billionaires

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Those 70 billion they have can green light multiple projects from the studios they already own and they could be pushing out content for their service. Instead they’re just trying to buy publishers to control who has access to major ips. Sony didn’t make them do that. They made bad choices all on their own. Like cancelling scalebound, passing on Spider-Man exclusivity, and not releasing any major exclusives for an entire year.

Funny that the reason they gave marvel for not taking Spider-Man was because they wanted to work on their own ips. Now look.

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@Zero_epyon said:

Those 70 billion they have can green light multiple projects from the studios they already own and they could be pushing out content for their service. Instead they’re just trying to buy publishers to control who has access to major ips. Sony didn’t make them do that. They made bad choices all on their own. Like cancelling scalebound, passing on Spider-Man exclusivity, and not releasing any major exclusives for an entire year.

Funny that the reason they gave marvel for not taking Spider-Man was because they wanted to work on their own ips. Now look.

Not to mention they didn't even have to lose the Call of Duty marketing deal, they just gave it up. Now they're trying to get the whole shebang. I can tell all the money they got to blow on video games is a more recent thing because now they're practically screaming, "WHY HASN'T THIS MARKET SUCCUMBED TO US YET?!"

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No excuses, Phil. You should be investing in your companies and developing new ones, not trying to buy out huge publishers just to have an edge on the competition.

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Oh no, that's very concerning.

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Well he’s not lying. Sony opened up this can of worms so......

Phil: “You wanna get nuts? Let’s get nuts!” 😅

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Sony fannies continue to stress over this acquisition. I guess it makes sense. Their boy Jim Ryan is stressing about so like all good followers, they must follow.😂

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That honestly makes him sound desperate.

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@Archangel3371 said:

Well he’s not lying. Sony opened up this can of worms so......

Phil: “You wanna get nuts? Let’s get nuts!” 😅

Sony opened the can of worms? Microsoft has never made third party or marketing deals ever. No sirree bob! Also, what publishers did Sony purchase to keep MS from playing their games? These Xbox drone narratives are are good for a laugh

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Ten years may seem like a long time, but as you get older, time starts going by faster and faster, and before you know it, CoD would be Xbox exclusive after the contract expired. It makes sense why Sony would be against this. And reading some of the posts in this thread, you guys have good points. Why focus on buying up more studios when you could be honing what you have already? This is why I'm glad I'm not involved in the decision making behind this. XD

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@BenjaminBanklin: Easy there quick draw. When I said that Sony opened up this can of worms I meant in this back and forth over this deal in particular. However if you want to go the route of them paying to keep games off of other platforms then they most certainly did that as well in the past. They’re just crying now though because Microsoft has a bigger wallet and they showed them how the big boys play this game. 😅

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#12 palasta
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System Wars appropriate title would be.

Phil Spencer:"Wuäh, wuäh, Sony is so mean, they don't want us to buy up the whole industry and realize a monopoly, but that's only way we gonna have a chance, since we suck at creating and maintaining development studios or good game IPs. Look how mean Sony is. Uh... wuähwuäh."

@Archangel3371 said:

Well he’s not lying. Sony opened up this can of worms so......

Phil: “You wanna get nuts? Let’s get nuts!” 😅

What can of worms what that be? Studios and IPs have been sold and aquired on a moderate scale throughout the decades without much of fuss.

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@Archangel3371 said:

@BenjaminBanklin: Easy there quick draw. When I said that Sony opened up this can of worms I meant in this back and forth over this deal in particular. However if you want to go the route of them paying to keep games off of other platforms then they most certainly did that as well in the past. They’re just crying now though because Microsoft has a bigger wallet and they showed them how the big boys play this game. 😅

It is so funny reading the complaints about this deal when the same folks who have been cheering exclusives at the top of their lungs. Now that MS is actually putting their money where their mouth is (keep in mind OP was one of the goons who said that they should in the past), the tears are flowing. "They should invest in creating their own studios" but they are mute when Sony makes acquisitions. In fact, the same goons in this thread create celebration threads.😂

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@palasta: I’m talking about this back and forth between Sony and Microsoft about this deal specifically.

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#15 Archangel3371
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@Pedro: Exactly. 😅

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@Archangel3371 said:

@palasta: I’m talking about this back and forth between Sony and Microsoft about this deal specifically.

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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Lol, you cows have been extra insecure lately. I guess 2023 isn't looking as good for you, so throwing stones while you can.

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Lol hillarious 🤣🤣.

MS buying up publishers left and right only to keep games off Playstation and Nintendo platform. They say it's ok because they release them on PC?

MS has been an incompetent shitdhow when it comes to managing their first party.

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@Pedro said:

It is so funny reading the complaints about this deal when the same folks who have been cheering exclusives at the top of their lungs. Now that MS is actually putting their money where their mouth is (keep in mind OP was one of the goons who said that they should in the past), the tears are flowing. "They should invest in creating their own studios" but they are mute when Sony makes acquisitions. In fact, the same goons in this thread create celebration threads.😂

That's why you needed to stay gone because you always lie or argue in bad faith. I never said MS needed to waste all their cash reserves to buy up pubs to keep third party IPs away from other systems. And that's not even something Sony has the capital to do. MS missing the occasional third party exclusive or getting it later isn't nearly on the same level as what MS is trying to do, and you know it. There's a reason they're now at odds with regulating bodies as opposed to Sony.

For someone that's quick to state that he's against acquisitions you're certainly cheerleading MS on making them. You're about as shady as Phil

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@palasta: Yes it does. Sony starting taking pot shots at Microsoft to try to prevent this deal from going through and now Microsoft is firing back.

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Ok bro, PlayStation isn't the one spending billions to buy out Doom, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Call of Duty, Diablo, Quake, Wolfenstein, Crash Bandicoot, Candy Crush, Starcraft, Overwatch, Starfield, Dishonored, Redfall, Prey, Warcraft etc.

Nothing is stopping them from weilding those IPs to make others smaller either. Microsoft isn't nobler than PlayStation.

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@Archangel3371 said:

@palasta: Yes it does. Sony starting taking pot shots at Microsoft to try to prevent this deal from going through and now Microsoft is firing back.

Sony isn't a regulatory agency holding back the deal, they only raised objections with it. MS drew this attention to themselves because they make themselves too obvious when they want to control a market.

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I remember MS congratulating Sony for everything Sony does. This has changed now. Now they're butthurt😂😂😂

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@BenjaminBanklin: Well yeah, obviously Sony is trying to prevent the deal from going through by making objections to it. They opened up this can of worms by taking potshots at Microsoft and even Nintendo. 🤷‍♂️

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@Archangel3371 said:

@BenjaminBanklin: Well yeah, obviously Sony is trying to prevent the deal from going through by making objections to it. They opened up this can of worms by taking potshots at Microsoft and even Nintendo. 🤷‍♂️

Sony is an angel. With nothing but pure intentions. They buy up third-party exclusives because they care. They purchase studios and lock games to their platform because they care. They raise prices because they care. They don't have BC support for PSVR with their new hardware because they care. They spoke kindly of Microsoft and even Nintendo because of this passion for caring. I am sorry you don't understand the passion and care Sony has for gamers. 😎

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Time for Phil to ask papa Nadella to buy him Sony.

Now, thinking about it. It would be funny if that indeed comes to pass. Imagine the same execs who are against this deal doing the 180 and defending the MS/Sony merger. Oh capitalism.

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@Pedro: Forgive me. I clearly wasn’t thinking there. 😅

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Imagine being the head of xbox. Going to a game awards show and Sony winning basically everything and none of your games are even nominated.

WTF was Phil even doing at the show.

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@hardwenzen: right? I expected a congrats from Phil on the God of War launch like he usually does. Not a peep.

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What a load of BS 😂

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@Zero_epyon said:

@hardwenzen: right? I expected a congrats from Phil on the God of War launch like he usually does. Not a peep.

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@Pedro: Well that is awkward. 😅

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@Zero_epyon said:

@hardwenzen: right? I expected a congrats from Phil on the God of War launch like he usually does. Not a peep.

From now on, you can forget about it. Next year Sony is gonna bring bangers as they always do, but MS will stay silent and incredibly salty.

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And yet buying a publisher with over 30 studios isn't trying to make your competitors smaller? Man, this guy needs to shut up.

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@pc_rocks said:

Time for Phil to ask papa Nadella to buy him Sony.

Now, thinking about it. It would be funny if that indeed comes to pass. Imagine the same execs who are against this deal doing the 180 and defending the MS/Sony merger. Oh capitalism.

Oh god, Sony getting bought by MS would instantly curse them. We wouldn't see anymore games until 2026

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#37  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@Pedro: well I stand corrected!

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#38 Zero_epyon
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@Archangel3371: Awkward indeed. I'll take the L on that one.

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Oh gtfo. Sony is crying like a bitch because of this deal. Spencer is spot on.

If ps is so great with its third person, cinematic archetype of games then just keep making them and forget about who owns COD. But Sony can’t because they bitches.

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@Zero_epyon: It happens. Nobody’s perfect.

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#41  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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@cainetao11 said:

Oh gtfo. Sony is crying like a bitch because of this deal. Spencer is spot on.

If ps is so great with its third person, cinematic archetype of games then just keep making them and forget about who owns COD. But Sony can’t because they bitches.

Oh poor Phil. He's probably going to miss out on a yacht payment if this deal doesn't clear. How would he ever eat? 🙄 If he hadn't been shitting the bed up until this point with Xbox, they wouldn't have even needed ABK to begin with. His crocodile tears are worthless

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Oh poor Phil. He's probably going to miss out on a yacht payment if this deal doesn't clear. How would he ever eat? 🙄 If he hadn't been shitting the bed up until this point with Xbox, they wouldn't have even needed ABK to begin with. His crocodile tears are worthless

You really spew absolute nonsense. 😂

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Archangel3371 said:

Well he’s not lying. Sony opened up this can of worms so......

Phil: “You wanna get nuts? Let’s get nuts!” 😅

Sony opened the can of worms? Microsoft has never made third party or marketing deals ever. No sirree bob! Also, what publishers did Sony purchase to keep MS from playing their games? These Xbox drone narratives are are good for a laugh

Sony buys time exclusives. FF7 Remake still not on Xbox. FF 16 also time exclusive till end of 2023. Sony not buying big publishers but they still playing dirty by buying time exclusives.

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Clown shoes having a go at Phil Spencer but say f@#k all when Sony lie to them.

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#45 Zero_epyon
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Look at what Sony made Microsoft do last gen! Sony's truly evil.

https://gamerant.com/canceled-xbox-one-games/

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-may-have-closed-five-more-internal-game-studios

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@Pedro said:

Sony fannies continue to stress over this acquisition. I guess it makes sense. Their boy Jim Ryan is stressing about so like all good followers, they must follow.😂

Naw, don't see anyone stressing. He's just reporting news. Seems you're the one that's stressing making a mountain out of a molehill with endless spin.

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Oh my crying Phil is blaming Sony for his own failures . What else is new ??

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#48 Pedro
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@Sagemode87: Odd, I am not the one that made this thread and the dozen threads crying about this acquisition. I support you Sony fannies hourly prayers as you hope for the deal to fail. 😂

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#49 blaznwiipspman1
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@mycatismilk: MS spent $70 billion. Let that sink in for a minute. You think they would be dumb enough to make their cash cow exclusive?? Sorry but it ain't going exclusive until they make every single dollar back, and not a second before then. Even after that, I doubt they'd make it exclusive either. Also cod is one game, Sony needs to sack the f up. It's not cod that will sink Sony. It's their weak ass bitch attitude, and how they don't want to compete. Gamepass is already changing the landscape. Making ps useless, Sony need to step up. If they can't buy up studios. Then make more games, open up their older titles, invest.

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#50 Jippo
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In the fall of 2019 Sony had bought Insomniac Games which brought out Spiderman for Sony and didn't come on the xbox because sony had bought Insomniac games.