Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth is stupidly good

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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I have been playing this game for two months straight now, and it is really damn good. It is actually amazing how addictive it is, in spite of being so different from regular Persona.

First up, the gameplay- whereas I suppose I have objective appreciation for Etrian Odyssey, I am no big fan of it myself, as in, I won't play the games because they don't appeal to my personal tastes. But Persona Q takes the basic gameplay of Etrian Odyssey, adds a Persona spin to it, and makes it work. It's an amazing game, with all of its mechanics benefitting from each other, to deliver something that is mechanically far better than either Etrian Odyssey or Persona.

I mean that. The two big weaknesses of Persona have always been said to be the dungeons and the battle system. Persona Q addresses that problem very well- the dungeons are vast, intricate, huge puzzles that will constantly challenge you, and can legitimately tire you out due to how well designed they are; it actually becomes very important to keep a map of the dungeon for yourself, because otherwise, you'll be lost before you know it, going round and round in circles. The combat, too, has been spruced up, taking a page from Etrian Odyssey, allowing for class specialization, and battle formations (which are fully customizable and should depend entirely on each character's type of attack, and defensive capability); Boost States, Leader Skills, and the fact that each character can equip and use multiple Personae also makes this a far mechanically superior and intricate game than either Persona 3 or 4.

The Etrian Odyssey side benefits too- the Persona specific enhancements (Boost states, weakness exploitation, All out attacks, Sub Personae, and so on) obviously enhance the battle system, but the dungeons benefit from the surreal setting that Persona brings with it, meaning each dungeon is visually differentiated, interesting, and just some place you want to explore and don't tire of that easily. All of this, of course, also helps with the map keeping.

But it's not just gameplay where the game shines- it does well in nearly every other aspect as well. It has the Persona series' strong writing, storytelling, incredible characterization (even though S.Links are gone, the game brings in a new feature called Strolls which basically is like Fire Emblem Awakening's character interaction system) which compensates for that, it has great voice acting, and the music is exemplary, following in the footsteps of Persona 4, and being every bit as good. I do not say that lightly,Persona 4 is literally my favorite game soundtrack of all time.

It even addresses the flaw of the Persona series' lack of difficulty, as the game poses a significant challenge, with a potential for stray deaths if you don't watch out, even on the lowest difficulty. It is, in other words, an amazing game, and if you own the 3DS, and are a fan of Persona, you owe it to yourself to play the game. It's a celebration of all things persona, with its crossover of Persona 3 and 4's stories, and their characters; hell, even Persona 1 and 2 are celebrated, via the first person point of view, and the ability for each character to use more than one Persona.

This is every bit Persona- a very true Persona game and an excellent JRPG. It is, in fact, the best JRPG released all year (not counting Pokemon as a JRPG, because sue me, I won't), far better than anything else out on the Vita or the 3DS, and certainly better than anything on the consoles. Why have you not got it yet? Get on it!

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#3 93BlackHawk93
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@TheGuardian03 said:

Good. Will pick up next month. just ordered SMT IV too.

Be careful tho. Chaz tends to hyperbole everything.

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#5  Edited By ninjapirate2000
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I'll check it out when it's on sale. I'm not big on etrian odyssey though. The whole map thing scares me.

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#6 93BlackHawk93
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On another note: Sorry Chaz, I couldn't get a Vita these holidays (or anything at all), so I can't play this. Maybe next Christmas.

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#7  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@93BlackHawk93 said:

On another note: Sorry Chaz, I couldn't get a Vita these holidays (or anything at all), so I can't play this. Maybe next Christmas.

This is on 3DS though :P

Although you are right, waiting on it till you are done with P4G is a good idea.

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted for holidays, though! :(

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#8 Blabadon
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Noted. Will actually look for deals for this game

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#9 93BlackHawk93
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@charizard1605 said:

@93BlackHawk93 said:

On another note: Sorry Chaz, I couldn't get a Vita these holidays (or anything at all), so I can't play this. Maybe next Christmas.

This is on 3DS though :P

Although you are right, waiting on it till you are done with P4G is a good idea.

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted for holidays, though! :(

I really hope it's not next Christmas or even until my birthday, because I'm DYING OVER HERE from the temptation and it's your goddamn fault! >:(

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#10 speedfreak48t5p
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Charizard likes it, so it must be terrible. :P

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#11  Edited By Liquid_
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Charizard on his knees again

shocker.

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#12 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Liquid_ said:

Charizard on his knees again

shocker.

Oh look, a completely irrelevant comment by liquid that has nothing to do with the topic on hand again.

Shocker.

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#13 Liquid_
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@charizard1605 said:

@Liquid_ said:

Charizard on his knees again

shocker.

Oh look, a completely irrelevant comment by liquid that has nothing to do with the topic on hand again.

Shocker.

i'd rather post irrelevant posts than have scabbed knees

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#14 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@Liquid_ said:

Charizard on his knees again

shocker.

Oh look, a completely irrelevant comment by liquid that has nothing to do with the topic on hand again.

Shocker.

i'd rather post irrelevant posts than have scabbed knees

I'd rather you stay on topic and refrain from pointless hostility.

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#15 Liquid_
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@charizard1605 said:
@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@Liquid_ said:

Charizard on his knees again

shocker.

Oh look, a completely irrelevant comment by liquid that has nothing to do with the topic on hand again.

Shocker.

i'd rather post irrelevant posts than have scabbed knees

I'd rather you stay on topic and refrain from pointless hostility.

And I'd rather have to not look at SW without seeing 30 of your threads that have no difference in content.

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#16 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605 said:
@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@Liquid_ said:

Charizard on his knees again

shocker.

Oh look, a completely irrelevant comment by liquid that has nothing to do with the topic on hand again.

Shocker.

i'd rather post irrelevant posts than have scabbed knees

I'd rather you stay on topic and refrain from pointless hostility.

And I'd rather have to not look at SW without seeing 30 of your threads that have no difference in content.

Feel free to ignore threads that offend you. You're not forced to enter any threads, certainly not mine, which are better off without any of the pointless and useless crap you post.

Final warning- refrain from off topic and overly hostile posting. Not just in this thread, and not just in my threads. Any thread.

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#17  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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#18 MidnightChannel
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Omg I need to get a 3DS.

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#19 illmatic87
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It's a good game.

Not anywhere near my top 10 of the year, but it's enjoyable in its own right regardless of the fanservice.

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#20  Edited By zassimick  Moderator
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I want it badly, but I refrained from picking it up because I haven't played Persona 3 yet. I did just pick up P3P and I have started playing it, so once I beat that I'm definitely checking out PQ!

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#21  Edited By Maroxad
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Definately a must have for any modern Persona fan.

I seriously hope the dungeon design in Persona 5 takes off from this game.

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#22 TrappedInABox91
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I was going to buy because I heard it was a EO with a Persona skin. Then heard that its not a jumping on point for Persona, so no. I'll rather wait a little longer for EO Untold 2 and EO 5.

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#23 AznbkdX
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Will grab it someday for sure. I'm a fan of Etrian Odyssey so this will probably be my type of game.

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#24 GreySeal9
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How do the Strolls work?

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#25 yokofox33
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And yet Gamespot STILL hasn't reviewed it.

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#26 finalfantasy94
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@TheGuardian03 said:

@93BlackHawk93 said:

@TheGuardian03 said:

Good. Will pick up next month. just ordered SMT IV too.

Be careful tho. Chaz tends to hyperbole everything.

Oh I know, been here for years .:P but he was one of the people that recommended P4G to me and after finishing it this year, it joined my list as one of the best games ever so hes cool as far as Persona goes.:P

you played P3?

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#27 finalfantasy94
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I had day one the LE. I just busy with other games right now on my vita.

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#28 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@GreySeal9 said:

How do the Strolls work?

They show up in the navigation menu periodically- once they do, you select them, and you'll see multiple strolls you can take. Select one, a scene plays out (usually with two or three characters at a time), and basically you see all these light hearted character development snippets. They update pretty frequently, and each of them is short enough.

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#29  Edited By TrappedInABox91
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It feels like Atlus is trying to push EO. They released EOU and 4 in 2013. Now they made PQ (2014) with EOU 2, 5, and a spinoff coming in 2015.

Char.. Persona Q is hard because it runs off hardass EO.

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#30 Ballroompirate
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Persona for life

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#31  Edited By Bigboi500
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I agree with Chaz, it's a very, very good game. Best game I've played all year, in fact. Easily my GOTY.

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#32 Liquid_
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@charizard1605 said:

@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605 said:
@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@Liquid_ said:

Charizard on his knees again

shocker.

Oh look, a completely irrelevant comment by liquid that has nothing to do with the topic on hand again.

Shocker.

i'd rather post irrelevant posts than have scabbed knees

I'd rather you stay on topic and refrain from pointless hostility.

And I'd rather have to not look at SW without seeing 30 of your threads that have no difference in content.

Feel free to ignore threads that offend you. You're not forced to enter any threads, certainly not mine, which are better off without any of the pointless and useless crap you post.

Final warning- refrain from off topic and overly hostile posting. Not just in this thread, and not just in my threads. Any thread.

You called my posts useless and pointless; that's pretty hostile.

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#33 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605 said:
@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605 said:

@Liquid_ said:

Charizard on his knees again

shocker.

Oh look, a completely irrelevant comment by liquid that has nothing to do with the topic on hand again.

Shocker.

i'd rather post irrelevant posts than have scabbed knees

I'd rather you stay on topic and refrain from pointless hostility.

And I'd rather have to not look at SW without seeing 30 of your threads that have no difference in content.

Feel free to ignore threads that offend you. You're not forced to enter any threads, certainly not mine, which are better off without any of the pointless and useless crap you post.

Final warning- refrain from off topic and overly hostile posting. Not just in this thread, and not just in my threads. Any thread.

You called my posts useless and pointless; that's pretty hostile.

Definitely; but mine was in response to an antagonistic post from you to begin with. Yours was a pointlessly unprovoked attack.

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#34 lostrib
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well either way, one (or both) of you should get moderated for breaking the quote chain rule :P

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#35 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@lostrib: I've issued myself a five day suspension.

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#36 lostrib
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@charizard1605: I'm sure you'll learn your lesson

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#37 Xaero_Gravity
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@Blabadon:

Unless you're an Etrian Odyssey fan, don't bother. Even as a Persona fan it bored me to tears. Not to mention the fact that Rei is one of the most annoying characters I've ever had to deal with.

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#38  Edited By Liquid_
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@charizard1605: At least you are setting a good example. Lol

It wasn't so much an attack, but an observation..its pretty obvious you'd give both your testicles away to avoid Nintendo shutting down.

It's only an attack if you're easily offended. Much much worse has been said on these forums, you should be used to it by now.

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#39 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Liquid_ said:

@charizard1605: At least you are setting a good example. Lol

It wasn't so much an attack, but an observation..its pretty obvious you'd give both your testicles away to avoid Nintendo shutting down.

  1. An observation can be made in much more civil language
  2. This thread had nothing to do with Nintendo, it had to do with Persona. I love Persona, my love for the series is pretty damn well known at this point, to the extent that Persona 5 is actually my most anticipated game for next year... period. It's the reason I am keeping my PS4 around. This thread was just about the newest Persona game that happens to be on the 3DS. If you had actually read the OP, you would see that nowhere at all did I praise Nintendo, or 3DS, or even mention them except where absolutely necessary- that's because this wasn't a thread about Nintendo. It's still not a thread about Nintendo. It's a thread about Persona. Stop trying to make it something it isn't.
  3. Accusing me of blind Nintendo fanboyism... you do realize my favorite game of all time is a PlayStation exclusive? My favorite console for the last two generations has been PlayStation? That I spent more money (and faith) on PlayStation 4 than on Wii U, which I wouldn't get until I was basically getting for all but free?
    You see what you want to see.
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#40 lostrib
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@charizard1605: a lot of people (mainly fanboys) seem to only see what they want to see.

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#41 LegatoSkyheart
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About time you started playing this game Chaz.

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#42 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@lostrib said:

@charizard1605: a lot of people (mainly fanboys) seem to only see what they want to see.

This is true, sadly.

@LegatoSkyheart said:

About time you started playing this game Chaz.

I've been playing this since October 25 lol. I'm nearing the end of my P3 run now.

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#43 jg4xchamp
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Charizard likes it, so it must be terrible. :P

Basically

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#44 freedomfreak
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No.

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#45  Edited By lamprey263  Online
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I'm loving what I've been playing so far, admittedly though I haven't been playing as much of it as I wanted. I've been too involved with my Xbox One since getting it. However, I made a commitment to myself to play through it quicker, after all I think I'm going to want to play through it from the Persona 4 perspective if it offers a different narrative (decided to go P3 first playthrough). And I wanna get that all out of the way before Devil Survivor 2 comes out.

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#46  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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No it's not.

-Runs away.

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#47  Edited By King_Dodongo
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I dunno.

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#48 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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Eww moar persona fetish. :p

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#49 Suppaman100
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Agree.


Game is great.

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#50 adsparky
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I haven't played it; but I heard that it's a good game if it's the first Persona you play and it's awesome if you have played persona 3 and 4.