People who complain about Anti Piracy methods are mad only because....

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

No because when I bought bioshock from steam I was in for some of the most BS anti piracy methods I have ever seen in my life. Then guess what? The pirates crack the game and don't have to go through the same hassle as me. Who has lost out here?

And don't get me started on starforce....

who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.Painballz

Eskimos.

No because when I bought bioshock from steam I was in for some of the most BS anti piracy methods I have ever seen in my life. Then guess what? The pirates crack the game and don't have to go through the same hassle as me. Who has lost out here?

And don't get me started on starforce....

jangojay

I found nothing wrong in Bioshock's anti piracy method, it was the same as every other game

Who complains about anti-piracy methods?tmatte

consumers. pirates complain about cracks.

duh? but why did you get an 8800ultra? anyways...but most companies dont know how to do antipiracy right. only valve really gets it since its darn near impossible to pirate their games yet you dont have to jump through hoops. honestly in the future microsoft should make a steam like service for all games and intergrate it into windows.....that would solve piracy.darkmagician06

I've had this Ultra since July 07

No I hate being punsihed for legally buying the game. I hate having to jump though hoops, and hop on one leg to play the blasted game. Some anti-piracy methods are alright but others make it feel like a punishment for buying the game.Chaos_HL21

Its not punishment, its a way to keep Pirates from stealing games.

You have to deal with it, don't blame the dev's, blame the pirates

[QUOTE="jangojay"]

No because when I bought bioshock from steam I was in for some of the most BS anti piracy methods I have ever seen in my life. Then guess what? The pirates crack the game and don't have to go through the same hassle as me. Who has lost out here?

And don't get me started on starforce....

Painballz

I found nothing wrong in Bioshock's anti piracy method, it was the same as every other game

You were limited how many times you could install the game.................

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]No I hate being punsihed for legally buying the game. I hate having to jump though hoops, and hop on one leg to play the blasted game. Some anti-piracy methods are alright but others make it feel like a punishment for buying the game.Painballz

Its not punishment, its a way to keep Pirates from stealing games.

You have to deal with it, don't blame the dev's, blame the pirates

Didn't you create another thread about the exact same topic about an hour ago?

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]No I hate being punsihed for legally buying the game. I hate having to jump though hoops, and hop on one leg to play the blasted game. Some anti-piracy methods are alright but others make it feel like a punishment for buying the game.Painballz

Its not punishment, its a way to keep Pirates from stealing games.

You have to deal with it, don't blame the dev's, blame the pirates

It is a punishment, it does not keep the pirates from stealing games, they will find ways around it, while the people who legally own the game will have to pay the price.

Companies like StarDock have no copy-protection on their games and they manage, infact they allow you to download their game over StarDock Central.

[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]No I hate being punsihed for legally buying the game. I hate having to jump though hoops, and hop on one leg to play the blasted game. Some anti-piracy methods are alright but others make it feel like a punishment for buying the game.Painballz

Its not punishment, its a way to keep Pirates from stealing games.

You have to deal with it, don't blame the dev's, blame the pirates

[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

No because when I bought bioshock from steam I was in for some of the most BS anti piracy methods I have ever seen in my life. Then guess what? The pirates crack the game and don't have to go through the same hassle as me. Who has lost out here?

And don't get me started on starforce....

jangojay

I found nothing wrong in Bioshock's anti piracy method, it was the same as every other game

You were limited how many times you could install the game.................

Dude, they did that so you can't pass it around to all of your friends, beat the game and be done with it.

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

Painballz

Many 'Pirates' torrent the game just to demo it and ultimately helps make the decision to buy.

As for the people with no internetz, well the majority of PC gamers originate from poorer countries and can barely afford dail up.

[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

No because when I bought bioshock from steam I was in for some of the most BS anti piracy methods I have ever seen in my life. Then guess what? The pirates crack the game and don't have to go through the same hassle as me. Who has lost out here?

And don't get me started on starforce....

Painballz

I found nothing wrong in Bioshock's anti piracy method, it was the same as every other game

You were limited how many times you could install the game.................

Dude, they did that so you can't pass it around to all of your friends, beat the game and be done with it.

For someone like who formats on a weekly basis it is a very big pain to know that...and I still haven't finished bioshock and I bought it a few days after it was live on steam......also I'm basically screwed out of 60 bucks when I formatted 3 times. How do you feel knowing that you bought a game and 3weeks later you will be unable to access it...

[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

No because when I bought bioshock from steam I was in for some of the most BS anti piracy methods I have ever seen in my life. Then guess what? The pirates crack the game and don't have to go through the same hassle as me. Who has lost out here?

And don't get me started on starforce....

Painballz

I found nothing wrong in Bioshock's anti piracy method, it was the same as every other game

You were limited how many times you could install the game.................

Dude, they did that so you can't pass it around to all of your friends, beat the game and be done with it.

No because when I bought bioshock from steam I was in for some of the most BS anti piracy methods I have ever seen in my life. Then guess what? The pirates crack the game and don't have to go through the same hassle as me. Who has lost out here?

And don't get me started on starforce....

jangojay

theres the crux of the problem. pirates get off scot free...legit customers get screwed.

not all anti piracy measures are good....MEs one least of all. piracy needs to be tackeled but it needs to be done in a transparent and non invasive way. ideally legit customers should be able to put in the disc and install away..and all the anti piracy stuff kicks in in the background (and doesent play havock with ure PC). requiring the game to call back every 10 days fits neither of those criteria.

[QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Painballz"][QUOTE="jangojay"]

No because when I bought bioshock from steam I was in for some of the most BS anti piracy methods I have ever seen in my life. Then guess what? The pirates crack the game and don't have to go through the same hassle as me. Who has lost out here?

And don't get me started on starforce....

Iyethar

I found nothing wrong in Bioshock's anti piracy method, it was the same as every other game

You were limited how many times you could install the game.................

Dude, they did that so you can't pass it around to all of your friends, beat the game and be done with it.

And this is true as well. But I used the real reason why I was pissed.

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

KingCotton462

Many 'Pirates' torrent the game just to demo it and ultimately helps make the decision to buy.

As for the people with no internetz, well the majority of PC gamers originate from poorer countries and can barely afford dail up.

People who pirate games, will play on private servers instead of buying the game and are you serious about that second comment? Nvidia won company of the year in 07

I complain about Anti-Piracy methods because they make it so I cannot use Xbox Live content that I legally bought and paid for.Fredrick2003x

[QUOTE="KingCotton462"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

Painballz

Many 'Pirates' torrent the game just to demo it and ultimately helps make the decision to buy.

As for the people with no internetz, well the majority of PC gamers originate from poorer countries and can barely afford dail up.

People who pirate games, will play on private servers instead of buying the game and are you serious about that second comment? Nvidia won company of the year in 07

Th best selling PC games require 56k or lower, you know I'm right with my statements.

[QUOTE="Fredrick2003x"]I complain about Anti-Piracy methods because they make it so I cannot use Xbox Live content that I legally bought and paid for.Big_T-Mac

I don't think that has to deal with piracy at all, that has to deal with digital rights which I think was a horrible idea to have it lock to the console you purchase it on.

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

Painballz

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

Painballz

Didn't you get the memo? Piracy isn't a problem on the PC. Not at all. That is just a conspiracy started by developers who make crappy games and want someone to blame for poor sales.

Just ask the hermits. They'll tell you. They all buy everything and none of them have a single pirated item on their PC.

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

ZIMdoom

Didn't you get the memo? Piracy isn't a problem on the PC. Not at all. That is just a conspiracy started by developers who make crappy games and want someone to blame for poor sales.

Just ask the hermits. They'll tell you. They all buy everything and none of them have a single pirated item on their PC.

99% of all pirates use the torrent as a demo to see if they like the game enough to buy it.:P

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

ZIMdoom

Didn't you get the memo? Piracy isn't a problem on the PC. Not at all. That is just a conspiracy started by developers who make crappy games and want someone to blame for poor sales.

Just ask the hermits. They'll tell you. They all buy everything and none of them have a single pirated item on their PC.

I don't have a single pirated item on my PC, I'm not sure what your goal saying this is about?

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

spinecaton

Didn't you get the memo? Piracy isn't a problem on the PC. Not at all. That is just a conspiracy started by developers who make crappy games and want someone to blame for poor sales.

Just ask the hermits. They'll tell you. They all buy everything and none of them have a single pirated item on their PC.

99% of all pirates use the torrent as a demo to see if they like the game enough to buy it.:P

[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"][QUOTE="Fredrick2003x"]I complain about Anti-Piracy methods because they make it so I cannot use Xbox Live content that I legally bought and paid for.spinecaton

I don't think that has to deal with piracy at all, that has to deal with digital rights which I think was a horrible idea to have it lock to the console you purchase it on.

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

Colonel_Cool

[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="Painballz"]

They can't pirate the game as easy.

They want to be able to just download the game from some torrent and then jump on multiplayer free of charge without having to use cracked servers

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

Colonel_Cool

Didn't you get the memo? Piracy isn't a problem on the PC. Not at all. That is just a conspiracy started by developers who make crappy games and want someone to blame for poor sales.

Just ask the hermits. They'll tell you. They all buy everything and none of them have a single pirated item on their PC.

99% of all pirates use the torrent as a demo to see if they like the game enough to buy it.:P

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

Painballz

And this is less than half an hour outside a major city - imagine what it's like in the middle of nowhere.

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

They stuff, like what about the people with internet, who the heck has a gaming PC with no internet.

lowe0

And this is less than half an hour outside a major city - imagine what it's like in the middle of nowhere.

Well, hes the minority

[QUOTE="Iyethar"]Survey says: BZZZZT! Pirates generally just download a cracked copy that's had the anti-piracy software removed. The people complaining about these anti-piracy measures are people who have bought the game and have to jump through stupid activation hoops or suffer from incompatibility and crashes caused by they copy protection software. They're upset (and they have a right to be upset) because they've paid for a product that's inferior and more inconvenient than what the pirates are downloading for free. The pirates aren't complaining about the copy protection measures because they don't have to deal with them. That doesn't sound very fair to me. Anyway, this is why publishers like Stardock should be supported for publishing games without copy protection.MagnuzGuerra

Dude, you won't even know when these checks are happening because thry run behind scenes, kinda like Steam.

Stop complaining just because its getting harder for you to pirate games.

Stop complaining just because its getting harder for you to pirate games.

Painballz

Stop complaining just because its getting harder for you to pirate games. Painballz

It's not getting any harder to pirate games. All pirates have to do is wait an average of 3-4 days and download a cracked copy.

What's getting harder is playing games that you bought and paid for. That just isn't right.

[QUOTE="Painballz"]Stop complaining just because its getting harder for you to pirate games. Iyethar

It's not getting any harder to pirate games. All pirates have to do is wait an average of 3-4 days and download a cracked copy.

What's getting harder is playing copies of games that you bought and paid for. That just isn't right.

Amen brotha.