PC is not the master race

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#1 BboyStatix
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Okay let's get some things out of the way. PC has the best performance, graphics, potential of all consoles. xone and ps4 can't even hope to come close to its power. But the problem is, so few developers actually put their heart and soul into optimizing their games for the pc. Developers just care about consoles cuz that's where the money's at. And not to mention the piracy problem on the pc. You can say that consoles are indeed holding back the pc platform. Just don't understand why so many games are poorly optimized for pc, like da inquisition for example. If consoles didn't exist, pc gaming would be epic.

So what I'm trying to say is that despite pc being the most powerful system, it just doesn't have the games to push it to its true potential. PC gamers are stuck with poorly optimized games. But let's see, maybe the Witcher 3 will change that. (I'm not a pc gamer btw. I only have a 360 lol).

So, pc is not the master race because what is the use of a super powerful machine when the games that it's going to run is anything but? Oh and let's not forget the lack of exclusives.

Perhaps I am wrong. Would love it if someone could point out the flaws in my logic.

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#2  Edited By princeofshapeir
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DA Inquisition is optimized great for PC, what are you talking about?

The vast majority of games released in 2014 were actually optimized very well for PC. AC Unity is the only glaring exception but that game ran like shit across the board. Today it at least runs consistently above 60 (without AA) on my PC.

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#3 SexyJazzCat
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Even a poorly optimized PC game is better than any console game.

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#4 Northernboxer
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You might have had a point if every "poorly optimized," pc game didn't run much, much better than the console versions.

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#5 BboyStatix
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@princeofshapeir: Hmm maybe you played after patches?

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#6  Edited By melonfarmerz
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Why is there an anti PC thread every other day with absolutely no concrete evidence and yet more made up console gamer "facts". This stuff alone decreases the already low content value of SW to all new lows.

That said, thread makes need 500 posts before posting, sorry.

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#7 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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OP is old school peasant he doesn't even have a xb1/ps4 or pc hes still on 360 when are the kids get money an buy stuff like

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#8 BboyStatix
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@melonfarmerz: But don't you think its true that because of consoles, developers don't put enough effort into pushing the pc to its very limits so we are left with little difference between the different systems. Alright I guess ultra settings can be pretty epic. But is that ultra really ultra? Or is it ultra because of its comparison to consoles?

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#9 FoxbatAlpha
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PC is more of a novelty these days.

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#10 BboyStatix
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@ProtossRushX: Well, I'm saving up for a ps4. I'm still a uni student so yeah a little tough

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#11 hatecalledlove
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@melonfarmerz: This x1000. It's a bit ridiculous to be honest.

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#12 princeofshapeir
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@BboyStatix said:

@princeofshapeir: Hmm maybe you played after patches?

Nope, I played when the game launched. My 970 could handle Ultra at 50-60 (2x MSAA) FPS which I thought was pretty good considering how great the game looked.

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#13 BboyStatix
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@princeofshapeir: Just out of curiosity... how big is your screen? I'm asking cuz, if u have such epic graphics but have a small screen its kind of a waste. When I used to play on my laptop I'd connect it via hdmi cable to my 63 inch tv. It was awesome. Not sure how I'd achieve the same feat with a desktop computer though.

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#14 deactivated-5c8ff6a32bb23
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Hail, peasants!

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#15 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Consoles are legendary. Pc not so much.

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#16 ArunsunK
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@BboyStatix:

PC having no exclusives is a lie based on no facts.

The peasant/master race is a joke originating from The Witcher, most take it at face value and do not know its origins and others use it pointlessly.

The 360 also had a piracy problem.

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#17 Pray_to_me
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PC gamers think last gen games are "optimized" lol

PC is last gen again. Windows is for spreadsheets not gaming.

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#18 jun_aka_pekto
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Most TVs have a VGA port for connecting to desktop or laptop PC. HDMI can also be used. But, I much prefer the VGA port.

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#19 lundy86_4
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  1. Post count.
  2. Cite some sources.
  3. Meh/10.
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#20 princeofshapeir
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@BboyStatix said:

@princeofshapeir: Just out of curiosity... how big is your screen? I'm asking cuz, if u have such epic graphics but have a small screen its kind of a waste. When I used to play on my laptop I'd connect it via hdmi cable to my 63 inch tv. It was awesome. Not sure how I'd achieve the same feat with a desktop computer though.

My monitor's native resolution is 1920x1200. Sometimes I connect my PC to my 50'' HDTV via a long HDMI cable.

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#21 BboyStatix
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@jun_aka_pekto: And if your desktop is far away?

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#22 BboyStatix
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@lundy86_4: Think you could give me some examples of epic games on the pc that consoles are too inferior to run? I'm not here for a debate actually just for a discussion. Maybe the topic title was quite alarming lol. But really I'm curious.

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#23 jun_aka_pekto
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@BboyStatix said:

@jun_aka_pekto: And if your desktop is far away?

You have the choice of bringing either the PC or the HDTV nearer. My desk can handle up to a 50" HDTV with plenty of room to spare.

I sometimes use a 42" TV (from another room) as my monitor (set on my desk) when the wife allows it. Most of the time, I use a 24" 1080p TV and a dedicated PC monitor as a multimonitor setup.

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#24 lundy86_4
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@BboyStatix said:

@lundy86_4: Think you could give me some examples of epic games on the pc that consoles are too inferior to run? I'm not here for a debate actually just for a discussion. Maybe the topic title was quite alarming lol. But really I'm curious.

I don't really need to do much to undermine your argument, as you executed it so perfectly. Back up your statements in order to lend more credence to what you say.

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#25 madsnakehhh
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Master Race is a retard term used only by those who feel insecure about their platform for not having anything worth to play.

Anyway, yeah, the PC is no doubt the best gaming platform in tech specs, but like i said, the term is dumb.

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#27  Edited By ArunsunK
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@BboyStatix:

'Epic Games' on pc here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AMY7I_eHjk

https://www.youtube.com/user/EpicUnrealTournament/videos

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#28 blamix99
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PC is the greatest, but why master race if they get the games late? LOL

ex: GTAV

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#29  Edited By BboyStatix
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@lundy86_4: Hmm I came across this thread. http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-discussion-1000004/big-pc-exclusives-of-2014-2015-and-2016-version-3--31154099/

I guess I'm not digging the pc exclusives because of my taste in games. Some in that thread were awesome though like overwatch but yeah couldn't find anything mindblowing though. But yeah I guess pc wins as long as it runs multiplat games better than all other platforms (which 9/10 times it should unless the developers optimized the pc version poorly which is kinda my argument in this thread. That developers arent putting enough love into the pc versions.)

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#30 BboyStatix
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@arunsunk: Ok that my friend was mind-blowing. I didn't even watch the whole thing but the little I saw was epic.

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#31 Vaasman
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Need 500 posts, enjoy the lock you filthy peasant.

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#32  Edited By ArunsunK
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@BboyStatix:

Here is a newer one for UE4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6PQ19BEE24

*Not game just showing off UE4 on PC

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#33  Edited By so_hai
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The PC is a guest in the video games industry because it doesn't participate in the hardware generations. It incrementally improves, and has no set limits as to what constitutes a valid PC. They don't even agree among themselves.

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#34 wolverine4262
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Its a myth that PC games dont sell well or piracy hurts sales. If the game is well done, PC gamers will buy it at a reasonable price. They may be more frugal, but they typically buy a lot more.

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#35 Link3301
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@BboyStatix said:

@princeofshapeir: Just out of curiosity... how big is your screen? I'm asking cuz, if u have such epic graphics but have a small screen its kind of a waste. When I used to play on my laptop I'd connect it via hdmi cable to my 63 inch tv. It was awesome. Not sure how I'd achieve the same feat with a desktop computer though.

You do realize having such a big screen reduces your pixel density and thus reduces the image quality, right?

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@SexyJazzCat said:

Even a poorly optimized PC game is better than any console game.

this, unless it has uplay.

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#37  Edited By TrappedInABox91
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@PonchoTaco: He looks so much like Peter Griffin. IDK, but I sure hope someone made funny images or GIFs out of him.

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#38 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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If you use the term master race, you've already lost the argument. Either PC fanboys or console players.

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#39 NyaDC
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

PC is more of a novelty these days.

What....

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#41  Edited By Jankarcop
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@BboyStatix said:

But the problem is, so few developers actually put their heart and soul into optimizing their games for the pc. Developers just care about consoles cuz that's where the money's at.

PC gamers are stuck with poorly optimized games.

Perhaps I am wrong. Would love it if someone could point out the flaws in my logic.

You would have a point, if most games weren't better on PC:

Digital Foundry:

"We can't help but feel that Xbox One under-delivers while the PC game is much closer to the experience the developers set out to create."

"Anyone with a decent gaming PC should definitely stick to the computer version as it offers excellent scalability alongside further improved visuals."

"While the consoles battle it out with their relatively minor plus and minus points, it's the PC that powers away from the pack to take the prize. This may be a bit of a no-brainer, but 60fps gameplay makes a big difference".

"The PC version remains the best edition of the game available."

"The PC edition is easy to recommend for the premier Resident Evil playthrough; a release that scales to lower-end GPUs gracefully, while adding perks such as 60fps support and improved anti-aliasing."

"At just 3GB in size, Ground Zeroes is a nimble and polished sample of the Fox Engine on PC - it takes the excellent PlayStation 4 game and provides enough in the way of upgrades to make us eagerly await a more thorough work-out for the technology in The Phantom Pain."

"The end result is that only the new PC version lives up to its Definitive Edition moniker."

"The final analysis, the PC game is the definitive version of Alien: Isolation."

"Those looking for something closer to the best possible experience should really opt for the PC version."

"If you have a powerful PC, however, we'd have to recommend this version."

"It's clear that if you have the muscle, the PC version is going to provide the best experience"

"That particular honour goes to the PC version of Lords of the Fallen."

"Overall, it's the PC version that potentially offers the best experience. There's the ability to scale beyond the 30fps cap found on console, with extra image quality and resolution options too. "

Oh and let's not forget the lack of exclusives.

Right:,

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#42 Cloud_imperium
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Poorly optimized games on PC > Console version.

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#43 superbuuman
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PC is still super powerful..optimized or not...doesn't make it less powerful. :P

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#44 NyaDC
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@Cloud_imperium said:

Poorly optimized games on PC > Console version.

A lot of the time these "poorly optimized games" aren't even poorly optimized, it's just a bunch of potatoes who don't meet the minimum requirements complaining about performance problems or people who don't know how to update and maintain their PC's...

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#45 funsohng
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@mems_1224 said:

@SexyJazzCat said:

Even a poorly optimized PC game is better than any console game.

this, unless it has uplay.

If a shit is on uplay, it's not a PC game, it's a filthy console game being emulated.

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@so_hai said:

The PC is a guest in the video games industry because it doesn't participate in the hardware generations. It incrementally improves, and has no set limits as to what constitutes a valid PC. They don't even agree among themselves.

Wouldn't the lack of generations and being the de facto development platform make PC transcendent and therefore the mainstay rather than the guest?

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#47 HalcyonScarlet
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@Cloud_imperium said:

Poorly optimized games on PC > Console version.

Exactly, now imagine when DX12 becomes the standard on PC.

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#48 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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Lock it mods.

Lol at pc having no exclusives.

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#49 freedomfreak  Online
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You're absolutely right. It's the mustard race now.

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#50  Edited By BboyStatix
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@Jankarcop: That's a good refutation. But can the same be said about 2014-15? Considering its next gen now.