@CrownKingArthur said:
@Suppaman100 said:
Anyway, can you answer this question (since most hermits are too scared to answer this and be confronted with the obvious truth): If PC has so many high scoring exclusives, then why can't it seem to win a GOTY these last years?
sure. i'd like to have a chance at answering that.
the answer comes as two sets of information, both stemming from the same one thing - money.
the pc isn't represented by a single company, not like how microsoft represents the xbone, sony the ps4; and nintendo the wii u. each of these companies has money for many things including: funding (exclusive) game development, and for marketing purposes.
obviously, MS/SNY/NIN are the console manufacturers. they need to shift their consoles, and one way to do that is to create 'killer app' exclusive content for their ecosystem. so they invest.
now at the same time, merit alone isn't good enough to sell games, in fact - if you look at the current pre-order doctrine it seems that its marketing which sells games.
so, what's the best method to market video games? well through video gaming publications/websites of course! and there is plenty of evidence on the internet to suggest that - at the very least - video game journalists can be coerced towards giving generous scores, and away from giving negative scores. totalbiscuit has spoken on the issue, that guy left gamespot to form giant bomb because of such corruption, and i think that rich stanton dude spoke out against rockstar saying they were the worst - and who holds the #1 position on metacritic? well rockstar of course. it is true there has been corruption in video gaming journalism - they are essentially a marketing arm of the console manufacturers. look at what gamespot did with titanfall, practically hyping the game for microsoft.
this is where pc gaming and console gaming fundamentally differ. i'm only going to buy a ps4 if it has exclusive 'killer app' content. its Sony's job to deliver those types of games. if they want me to buy a ps4, make games for it that i really need to play. Sony has to try and produce those GOTY award winning games, because if they don't - MS will, Nintendo will, and should all console manufacturers vehemently fail to secure a journalistic outfit's GOTY that year, well that would be marketing money well spent.
you don't have to agree with me, i'm not expecting to convince you. but it is true that console manufacturers have got access to a lot of money, and they do use that money to fund game development, a game under development is an investment, and they've got ways and means to help ensure success of their investment, and evidence exists that such means have been undertaken in the past.
a few years ago i stopped caring about things like metascores because i found they were a poor predictor of game 'enjoyment'. i never use metascores in argument here. metascores, scores in general are basically a reflection of the opinion of some person who has chosen writing about video games as a vocation.
anyway superman. have a super day.
Ah, finally someone who dares to really answer it unlike lostrib and co that are trying to damage control. I applaud u for that sir.
So basically your argument comes to this: Console makers throw money at the major gaming media to hype their games and PC has no company backing it like a console, so there is almost no money thrown at the major gaming media to support these PC exclusives. (And I partly agree about the corruption but I think these are separate cases and we can't judge the whole gaming media to be rotten because of some cases. But I'll leave this for another discussion)
Again I agree for a part, yes marketing can have an effect on the review score. (that's why, like you, I don't care much for scores) (example TLOU getting an 8, titanfall getting a 9,...)
1)But this has nothing to do with a GOTY award. When this award is given, most of the marketing campaign for the game is finished, this award will hardly affect sales since the game has been released some time already (unless of course it's released at the end of the year).
2)A GOTY award is choosen from a list of best games of that year chosen by editors and gaming staff. A PC game has just as much chance at winning an award as a console game. (Last year's GOTY was won by the 3DS zelda game and not by TLOU and hey I respect that decision, since Zelda was one or was the best game last year imo)
Conclusion: I don't believe money is the biggest factor behind the GOTY and PC not winning any these last couple of years. (btw, if GOTY truly was a popularity contest/ marketing/ money fueled award, we would constantly see games like COD, BF or GTA win these awards)
Here's my theory:
PC doesn't win any awards from the major gaming media because 1. most of the PC exclusives are indies and most of them are of lower quality than non indie games. (that's normal, you can't expect the same quality for a game that's developed by 10 devs in comparison to a team of 100+ devs.) (Indies are in a different division of the league, let's say indies are in the second division, whereas non indies are in the first division and thus there is a clear difference in quality)
2. PC is getting less and less non indie exclusives, there a couple of reasons for this, biggest imo being piracy.
Because of these reasons PC has a harder time to win a GOTY,... because PC has to compete with a lot of console exclusives that are made by big developers and thus the console games most of the time are of higher quality than the 100+ exclusive PC indies. And because of the low amount of non indie PC exclusives.
And again nice to see someone that dares to confront this question unlike most of the hermits here who get butthurt when PC gets criticized.
You have a super day too.
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