PC Gaming is Officially Dead!

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#1 PBSnipes
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Game over hermits. From a recent interview with Brad Wardell (CEO of PC game publisher Stardock) and Chris Taylor (um, Chris-mother****ing-Taylor). When asked about the belief that PC gaming is dying, Wardell responded with:

Oh absolutely. It's not just dying, it's already dead. Totally. In fact...all game developers that feel that way should quickly flee to the, um ... console market, right now. Don't worry about us, we'll guard you're back while you retreat. Nothing to see here. We'll shut the lights off when you're all gone. No, no, no need to thank us at all. We just want to make sure the developers who think PC gaming is dying are safe to flee to greener pastures. We're just that selfless.

Note that I myself understand that Wardell is (obviously) being sarcastic, but I wanted to see a) how many people read the whole post and b) how many people understand that capitalism is cyclical, and sooner or later the trend of porting PC games to consoles will reverse, and we'll see more "hardcore" PC games. As developers like Epic (apparently) shift their focus to consoles, developers/publishers like Stardock and Gas Powered Games are going to fill the void.

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#2 Nolan16
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Lol theres my boy Chris Taylor
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#3 Saturos3091
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Yes, we'll see what they can bring to the PC in the coming years, and vice versa for the developers who are focusing on console releases.
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#4 DAZZER7
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lol, so everyone keeps saying. This death really seems to be taking a long time! no?
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#5 my_name_is_ron
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wow.... sarcasm is never seen around these parts

...that too was sarcastic....

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#6 st1ka
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PC IS NOT DEAD YOU MORONI...

oh wait its sarcasm my bad :P

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#7 Haee
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Yeah its dead alright.
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#8 IgGy621985
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I believe that you're late to teh party.

This interview is several months old.

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#9 bigLLL
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aslong as WOW is alive and kicking pc gaming will live on, for single player non RTS games though I dont see much point bringing it to PC when the console version is so much more fun for the casual market, no stuffing around just put in the disc and it takes care of everything for you while playing with ur favourite controller on a big HDTV, keyboard and mouse on a small monitor just isnt fun, unless it's a mmo or rts

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#10 PBSnipes
Member since 2007 • 14621 Posts

I believe that you're late to teh party.

This interview is several months old.

IgGy621985
Fixed. Thanks for the tip, I only saw it about a week ago so I assumed it was pretty new.
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#11 bignice12
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So much truth in Wardell's statement/sarcasm.
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#12 Hewkii
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was this topic just locked a minute ago?
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#13 PBSnipes
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was this topic just locked a minute ago?Hewkii
Yes it was. I believe a moderator fell victim to:

Note that I myself understand that Wardell is (obviously) being sarcastic, but I wanted to see a) how many people read the whole post...PBSnipes

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#14 Marka1700
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Neither console or PC gaming are goin anywere. They are both growing.
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#15 gasmaskman
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Reading between the lines:

There will be more innovative games coming from these "low end" publishers who can take more risks on low budget games.

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#16 PBSnipes
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Reading between the lines:

There will be more innovative games coming from these "low end" publishers who can take more risks on low budget games.

gasmaskman

But that's the funny thing, Stardock really isn't taking any risks, at least not when you look at gaming logically. They're spending less money on their projects (I don't think either Galactic Civilizations 2 or SOASE broke the $1 million mark), designing them so that the greatest number of users can play them (ie low system requirements), they're not using DRM of any sort (both creating good will with the consumer and keeping costs down by not spending money on ineffective DRM) and they're creating great, unique games. The problem is the general opinion in the gaming community is so flawed that the majority of the decision makers don't know what a "good" game is, nor what will sell or not.

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#17 gasmaskman
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[QUOTE="gasmaskman"]

Reading between the lines:

There will be more innovative games coming from these "low end" publishers who can take more risks on low budget games.

PBSnipes

But that's the funny thing, Stardock really isn't taking any risks, at least not when you look at gaming logically. They're spending less money on their projects (I don't think either Galactic Civilizations 2 or SOASE broke the $1 million mark), designing them so that the greatest number of users can play them (ie low system requirements), they're not using DRM of any sort (both creating good will with the consumer and keeping costs down by not spending money on ineffective DRM) and they're creating great, unique games. The problem is the general opinion in the gaming community is so flawed that the majority of the decision makers don't know what a "good" game is, nor what will sell or not.

Risks come from the fact that they're treading in uncharted paths. Who knows how a PC game is going to sell? They don't. Though their successes in non-gaming applications can get them money even without their games selling well.

My main point being is that I'll be happy to trade some PC devs that do the same game over and over because it sells (Epic and UT, CoD, etc.) for innovative small-time devs willing to put thought into why their game is selling.

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#18 IgGy621985
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Reading between the lines:

There will be more innovative games coming from these "low end" publishers who can take more risks on low budget games.

gasmaskman

Well, Sins may be a low-budget game, but I believe that it sold pretty damn well worldwide, both via retail and DD.

I mean, they made a terrific game that wont massacre your hardware.

I can't wait what Stardock will pull-off next.

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#19 PBSnipes
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Risks come from the fact that they're treading in uncharted paths. Who knows how a PC game is going to sell? They don't. Though their successes in non-gaming applications can get them money even without their games selling well.

My main point being is that I'll be happy to trade some PC devs that do the same game over and over because it sells (Epic and UT, CoD, etc.) for innovative small-time devs willing to put thought into why their game is selling.

gasmaskman

True, but on that note no one knows whether or not a new IP will work out these days, especially on the PC. Unless you're a premier developer (ie Valve, Bioware, Blizzard, Relic) nothing is guarenteed, but unlike other publishers/developers Stardock gives their games every chance to succeed.

But I agree with your second point, we don't need another UT or CoD, especially considering how little innovation there has been in either series.

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#20 PS3_3DO
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I just bought a 22" monitor and soon a $5,000 PC. :o Now you tell me PC gaming is over! :(

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#21 A_zombie
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That has got to be the thickest way to lay a sarcasm I've ever read :p

Yeah, PC gaming started to die when NES came out :roll:

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#22 naruto7777
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oh no what does this mean
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#23 xXHackettXx
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How can you say this with StarCraft 2 and Spore coming out this year?
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#24 thrones
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Oh no, I just got a subscription for Age of Conan and now my computer won't play PC Games?

I wasted my f***ing money.

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#25 lillefix
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How can you say this with StarCraft 2 and Spore coming out this year?xXHackettXx

Is this someone who hasn't read the opning post or is my irony-detector broke.

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#26 Kratos_OMEGA
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I half think it's half dead. The MMO's keep PC gaming alive. Without MMO's it would be dead.
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#27 lordlors
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honestly, who still believes in this pc is dying or dead crap anyway? those who still believe must be really stupid and idiotic. PC gaming will never die.
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#28 wklzip
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oh no what does this meannaruto7777

That we are zombies :(

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#29 lordlors
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I half think it's half dead. The MMO's keep PC gaming alive. Without MMO's it would be dead.Kratos_OMEGA

Yeah and SC2, Spore, Sims 3, DoW 2, etc. are MMOs.

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#30 Archang3l_666
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so that means my Gaming PC is undead? Is it a zombie or a vampire?

Cool:P

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#31 lordlors
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so that means my Gaming PC is undead? Is it a zombie or a vampire?

Cool:P

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Zombies are cooler :P

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#32 smokeydabear076
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Lulz teh hermits just got owned, me thinks.
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#33 ChiddaPotta
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Starcraft....Starcraft....Starcraft....
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#34 iam2green
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not dead at all. starcraft is comingout age of conan just came out, wow wotlk is coming out. ur saying pc gaing is dieing.
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#35 carrot-cake
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Soooo who actually read the whole post!? I can spot some people that didnt!!
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#36 DDX2
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Lol theres my boy Chris TaylorNolan16

the quotes from Brad Wardell :lol:

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#37 smokeydabear076
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Soooo who actually read the whole post!? I can spot some people that didnt!!carrot-cake
Who are they?
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#38 A_zombie
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[QUOTE="Archang3l_666"]

so that means my Gaming PC is undead? Is it a zombie or a vampire?

Cool:P

lordlors

Zombies are cooler :P

Trust me, we are way cool ;)

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#39 -GhostMLD-
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MS wont allow it.

They want every game to be Games for Windows branded.

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#40 kidcool189
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I just bought a 22" monitor and soon a $5,000 PC. :o Now you tell me PC gaming is over! :(

PS3_3DO


i feel sorry for u if u really are going to spend $5000 on a pc
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#41 thrones
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MS wont allow it.

They want every game to be Games for Windows branded.

-GhostMLD-

They do, that part of Microsoft's affect on PC Gaming I couldn't care less about.

It's GfwL most PC Gamers have problems with.

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#42 SimpJee
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Pssh, from his comments Taylor just wants all the PC gamers for himself ...
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#43 PS3_3DO
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

I just bought a 22" monitor and soon a $5,000 PC. :o Now you tell me PC gaming is over! :(

kidcool189



i feel sorry for u if u really are going to spend $5000 on a pc

I am not going to after playing my new Alienware PC. :)

I am finally going to get to play Crysis, Spore, Mass Effect, Stalker, etc. :)

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#44 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

I just bought a 22" monitor and soon a $5,000 PC. :o Now you tell me PC gaming is over! :(

PS3_3DO



i feel sorry for u if u really are going to spend $5000 on a pc

I am not going to after playing my new Alienware PC. :)

I am finally going to get to play Crysis, Spore, Mass Effect, Stalker, etc. :)

So what are packing in this 5000$ Alienware/Dell PC?

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#45 crzza
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

I just bought a 22" monitor and soon a $5,000 PC. :o Now you tell me PC gaming is over! :(

PS3_3DO



i feel sorry for u if u really are going to spend $5000 on a pc

I am not going to after playing my new Alienware PC. :)

I am finally going to get to play Crysis, Spore, Mass Effect, Stalker, etc. :)

Can't you play those on 360? You could save 4,700 $ lol
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#46 VoodooGamer
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i feel sorry for u if u really are going to spend $5000 on a pckidcool189

haha i no whacha meen man. whoever spends 5000 bucks on a computer is a complete moron. he could get a 360 with that and have the same graphics. also can you get halo 3 on the computer? no i didnt think so. its funny that some people actually believe that they know whats right for them when they dont obviously.

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#48 leejohnson7
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Well it might not be dying, but it certainly isn't better than it was five years ago.
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#49 PBSnipes
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Soooo who actually read the whole post!? I can spot some people that didnt!!carrot-cake
Someone should make a thread titled "PC" and then post a paragraph from Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, just so we can see how many people still make the default "PC gaming is/isn't dead!" post.