Patcher "PS5 to have more TFLOPS than Xbox One X"

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#1 EnergyAbsorber
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PS5 will be more powerful than Xbox One X, Sony locked in TFLOPS race

Analyst talks about the the launch of the PS5, and believes that it will have more TFLOPs than Xbox One X, and therefore be more powerful!

By Michael Harradence

10 July 2017

The PlayStation 5 will boast more TFLOPS than Microsoft’s upcoming Xbox One X, claims Michael Pachter, an analyst with Wedbush Morgan Securities.

Speaking with GamingBolt, Pachter reiterated that PS5 will launch around 2019 when 4K adoption becomes more widespread, and that Sony will be firmly locked in a TFLOPs race with Microsoft with its next-generation home console.

“By the time 4K becomes affordable in 2019, PlayStation will have a 4K device, that will have more TFLOPs than the Xbox One X has, because they seem to be in a TFLOPs race,” said Pachter.

The analyst also said that he thinks the PS4 will stick around for a long while yet, and will continue to be sold even after the launch of the as-yet unannounced PS5, provided the console keeps pulling in the punters. Obviously, Sony has done this with its previous consoles, with PS2 and PS3 in particular continuing to sell even after the launch of their successors.

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Pachter has touched on the subject of the PS5 multiple times in the past, and feels strongly that we’ll see a new console out around 2019/2020, which will feature backwards compatibility with the PS4 Pro. Sony has indicated that a PS5 release is still a long way off, although has at least acknowledged that the format holder will launch new hardware at some point down the line.

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#2 DrLostRib
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wow, really going out on a limb for that one

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#3  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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At least link to my article if you will quote it and copy it wholesale

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#4 EnergyAbsorber
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This was pretty much to be expected anyway that a console releasing 2 to 3 years after X1X would be more powerful.

I just hope the PS5 won't have a gimped CPU causing a severe bottleneck.

Both the PS4 Pro and even the more powerful X1X seem to have bottlenecked CPUs.

I'd be happy if the console was more balanced in terms of power.

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#6 EnergyAbsorber
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@charizard1605:

http://gamingbolt.com/ps5-will-have-more-tflops-than-xbox-one-x-sony-and-microsoft-are-in-a-tflops-race-michael-pachter

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#7 lhughey
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You don't say.

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#8  Edited By JasonOfA36
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It should be. Honestly. If it was weaker than the X1X, then what's the point of a new generation.

Plus, by then, 6+ TFLOPs GPUs should be cheap enough for gaming. EDIT: 4K gaming at reasonable FPS.

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#9 cainetao11
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Well I would fvckin hope so.

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#10 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@EnergyAbsorber: Thank you

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#11 MonsieurX
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At least he's not wrong,for once

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#12 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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Why do you people put his stupidity on these forums, i mean don't you think we have enough idiots here already?

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#13 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Patcher bro your awful

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#15 Archangel3371  Online
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Well I would certainly hope so.

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#16 xxyetixx
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So he is guessing that a console that 2-3 years away will have more TFlops than a console coming out this year ? I'd like to apply for a Job at his company I could stay the obvious just as well.

Here let me try...mmhhhm PS5 will come with a wireless controller. Check please

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#17 Ten_Pints
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The PlayStation 5 will be also be called PS5.

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#18 darkangel115
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@drlostrib said:

wow, really going out on a limb for that one

and in other news. the xbox 6 will have more then the PS5 but less then the PS7 LMAO

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#19 PinkAnimal
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I need ronbot charts to understand this. Will it be equivalent to GTX1070 though?

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#20 appariti0n
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Wow, you think?

In other news, nvidia's next video cards will be faster than the current ones.

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#21 Juub1990
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@charizard1605 said:

At least link to my article if you will quote it and copy it wholesale

Did you write the article on gamingbolt? The guy is named Pramath and I know you're Indian so it's you right?

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#22  Edited By danjammer69
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@pinkanimal said:

I need ronbot charts to understand this. Will it be equivalent to GTX1070 though?

For the love of god, please no. His sleep inducing, nonsensical tech marketing BS is seriously too much to handle.

I am sure he is a very smart guy, but he doesn't seem like someone that interacts with people all too well. I am wondering if he is an engineer by trade.

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#23 Xabiss
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Man this guy is genius to come up with this! You mean a console that comes out 2 years from now will be more powerful? No way! WTF is wrong with this guy!

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#24  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@Juub1990 said:
@charizard1605 said:

At least link to my article if you will quote it and copy it wholesale

Did you write the article on gamingbolt? The guy is named Pramath and I know you're Indian so it's you right?

Yup

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#25  Edited By SUD123456
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Zee analysis is strong in him.

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#26 nathanbats
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No shit Sherlock

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#27 WitIsWisdom
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Really? A console that releases a year or two after another one that is only a mid gen step will have more power then it? I'm shocked.. shocked I tell you.

It's no secret.. Each of the 2 companies will keep pushing the "most powerful console" bar higher and higher with each new iteration until one either caves, feels it is time to exit the race, or feels as though the graphics and power is high enough and instead it is time to start worrying about frame rate, lag, net code, and things that actually matter...

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#28 WitIsWisdom
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@i_p_daily said:

Why do you people put his stupidity on these forums, i mean don't you think we have enough idiots here already?

lmao.. that's gold bro.

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#29 hrt_rulz01
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And I'm guessing that graphics and power will suddenly become the most important thing again for cows & the media... and 4k will be massively important. Lol.

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#30 Chutebox
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It'll probably have different packaging too.

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#31 VFighter
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In other news Patcher said the PS5 will probably be named "PlayStation 5" and will apparently play video games.

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#32 stereointegrity
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

And I'm guessing that graphics and power will suddenly become the most important thing again for cows & the media... and 4k will be massively important. Lol.

I dont understand why your damage controlling something three years away

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#33  Edited By nomadic8280
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And here I thought nothing could outperform the X1X, ever.

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#34 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Wow, that's really surprising. I wonder how the industry will react to such a bold move. I'm going to take a wild guess and say PS6 will even be more powerful.

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#35 EG101
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@i_p_daily said:

Why do you people put his stupidity on these forums, i mean don't you think we have enough idiots here already?

LOL that's like stating PS6 will have more TF's than PS5. Is Pachter that dumb or is his audience so dumb that he needs to inform them of the obvious??

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#36 mazuiface
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Wow, what an obvious, dull statement.

Does this mean Patcher is actually correct for once?

- or is the Patcher curse going to set in and we will get a console weaker than the X1X?


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#37 PAL360
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Who would have guessed :o

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#39  Edited By kuu2
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Yeah but will it have the proper memory bandwidth like The Mighty One X?

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#40 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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Rather they stick a beasty CPU in and just keep the TFlops the same.

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#41 pankar94
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And the next xbox will have more tflops than ps5 and then ps5 pro will come out with more tflops and the story doesn't have an end...

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#42 PSP107
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@pankar94:

Isn't the XoneX just a more powerful Xone anyway?

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#43 pankar94
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@PSP107:

yeah it is but actually ps5 will be a new gen system not an upgraded version of ps4 so a new gen xbox will release when ps5 will come out.

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#44 Telekill
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Systems coning out after a different one should be more powerful. Nintendo is the only one that hasn't really followed that idea.

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#45 PSP107
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@pankar94: "yeah it is but actually ps5 will be a new gen system not an upgraded version of ps4 so a new gen xbox will release when ps5 will come out."

So they going to take turns one upping each other?

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#46 superbuuman
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kinda obvious isn't it.... 4k at 240fps its gonna have to lol xP......lol Pachter.. :P

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#47  Edited By PSP107
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@kvally said:

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

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#48 CanYouDiglt
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There ya go cows in a few years you may catch up in graphics. Granted Sony has never caught up in gameplay but judging by what you enjoy all you care about is graphics anyways. Enjoy your QTE games starting to match up to Xbox in a few years but we all know they will never have good gameplay, not like Sony fans enjoy actual gameplay in their games.

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#49  Edited By lamprey263
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This is easily achievable simply of virtue that better tech gets cheaper in relatively quick time.

I think what will be more important when that happens is how much more powerful and for how much, and can Microsoft come right back and leapfrog them afterwards? Will the PS5 need a mid-gen upgrade just to stay ahead?

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#50 Tessellation
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Did we even need a thread for the obvious? this is waste of bandwidth.