Pachter: 3DS will live on, Vita will die slow, painful death

deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20 · 2014-01-23 09:29:09

On the state of the PlayStation Vita:The sales are horrible. My model says the Vita sold 4.2 million last year. It's a pretty small number and I don't think they are going to build a business selling 4 million a year -- and that number could go down. Vita is a little bit too elegant and a little too expensive. I always feel like I'm going to break it. But then it has relatively few games because they are complicated to make and the market is so small. Very few publishers are spending money to make them. You had Assassin's Creed: Liberation, that cost Ubisoft a lot. It's a whole new adventure. Sony will spend the money with their internal studios, but you're just going to see [Vita] die a slow, painful death.It's super high-end in the market; it's too expensive for a casual gamer. I know that phones are subsidized, but you can get a smartphone for free when you renew your contract. You can get an HTC free, or spend $200 on a Vita. It's too [hard] to pass up the free phone. They are never going to get the casual end of the market.On whether connectivity with PlayStation 4 could boost Vita sales:I don't quite get it. First they were selling it as a controller, which was lame. I would rather just spend $50 on a controller. They were selling it as a controller because...I have to turn off the game on my TV because American Idol is on and I have to continue my session on my Vita? That's what a DVR is for, you can watch American Idol later. I think most people who have competing concerns about use of the console versus watching TV have their console on a different TV from where their wife is. I agree those are cool features, but it's limited.On the future of Vita and Sony in the handheld market:There is no future and they couldn't do any better [than Vita]. The market is what it is because of Nintendo. Nintendo built the market and Nintendo has the best name in handhelds. I just think [Sony] misjudged the size of the market and launched it into this s---storm of mobile destroying the casual end of dedicated handhelds. And Nintendo's not giving up much share on the hardcore side, because they have three games to every one Sony game, and they are good games.SOURCEWelp, looks like 3DS is doomed then.

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#51 Edited By KBFloYd

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@Heil68 said:

@super600 said:

It's really obvious that the vita is dead and sadly sony is doing nothing to save the vita. I would not be surprised if it ended up in last place in terms of current gen platforms by the end of this gen.

Dead just like the WiiU. :(

dont you own a wiiu?

or did you sell it?

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#52 Heil68

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@KBFloYd said:

@Heil68 said:

@super600 said:

It's really obvious that the vita is dead and sadly sony is doing nothing to save the vita. I would not be surprised if it ended up in last place in terms of current gen platforms by the end of this gen.

Dead just like the WiiU. :(

dont you own a wiiu?

or did you sell it?

I own one. I'm looking forward to project X and SSBB and possibly Mario Kart, all hopefully this year. The console is set to be in dead last this gen though and those games wont stop that. Much like the Vita, no matter what gmaers come out, it's not coming close to 3DS.

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#53 PinkieWinkie

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It's sad when all sheep have left to hype is a handheld device.

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#54 Edited By Opus_Rea-333

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like 3 Vita threads per day by charizard.

and LMAO don't even compare it to 3DS.

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#55 Seabas989

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The Vita pretty much is and will be only relevant in Japan.

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#56 Shinobishyguy

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@PinkieWinkie: yeah, all they have is a platform with a fuckton of great games, how pathetic

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#57 Gargus

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@musicalmac said:

I think the 3DS is boring and owes its namesake to bad technology. I also feel the Vita is the coolest dedicated handheld gaming device ever released by any company and it's a shame it's not selling better.

That being said, the 3DS can still be a DS and it still enjoys a really reasonably good game lineup whereas the Vita cannot enjoy those same perks. And I think it's a shame.

I don't wish for Nintendo to fail, I should make that clear. I do, however, think the 3DS is one very boring piece of gaming hardware on its own.

Well that's because 3ds is still nothing more than a DS. When you strip away the 3d effect it has every single game on it feels just like a DS game and nothing more. The hardware and software offers no actual improvements or ability for games to actually be different.

But that's what Nintendo does, they slightly enchance but never actually innovate. The basic DS architecture is still being used, its been used since the original ds. The wiiu is a wii with a gimmick controller, the wii is a gamecube with a gimmick controller, and the 3ds is a ds with a gimmick 3d ability.

From a hardware and software standpoint I love my vita and it excels at everything the ds lacks. Just sadly its adoption has been slow at best but I still love the variety of games that can be played on it.

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#58 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20

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@Gargus said:

@musicalmac said:

I think the 3DS is boring and owes its namesake to bad technology. I also feel the Vita is the coolest dedicated handheld gaming device ever released by any company and it's a shame it's not selling better.

That being said, the 3DS can still be a DS and it still enjoys a really reasonably good game lineup whereas the Vita cannot enjoy those same perks. And I think it's a shame.

I don't wish for Nintendo to fail, I should make that clear. I do, however, think the 3DS is one very boring piece of gaming hardware on its own.

Well that's because 3ds is still nothing more than a DS. When you strip away the 3d effect it has every single game on it feels just like a DS game and nothing more. The hardware and software offers no actual improvements or ability for games to actually be different.

But that's what Nintendo does, they slightly enchance but never actually innovate. The basic DS architecture is still being used, its been used since the original ds. The wiiu is a wii with a gimmick controller, the wii is a gamecube with a gimmick controller, and the 3ds is a ds with a gimmick 3d ability.

From a hardware and software standpoint I love my vita and it excels at everything the ds lacks. Just sadly its adoption has been slow at best but I still love the variety of games that can be played on it.

Your idiocy knows no bounds

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#59 mariokart64fan

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wiiu is not a failure, its only a yr old and gots time, ps3 took 3 so that shou ld tell you , as far as vita, yea that thing never had a chance, the console market is unpredictable, that being said , any vita wiiu comparision is bull ,

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#60 Edited By j2zon2591

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@Gargus said:

@musicalmac said:

I think the 3DS is boring and owes its namesake to bad technology. I also feel the Vita is the coolest dedicated handheld gaming device ever released by any company and it's a shame it's not selling better.

That being said, the 3DS can still be a DS and it still enjoys a really reasonably good game lineup whereas the Vita cannot enjoy those same perks. And I think it's a shame.

I don't wish for Nintendo to fail, I should make that clear. I do, however, think the 3DS is one very boring piece of gaming hardware on its own.

Well that's because 3ds is still nothing more than a DS. When you strip away the 3d effect it has every single game on it feels just like a DS game and nothing more. The hardware and software offers no actual improvements or ability for games to actually be different.

But that's what Nintendo does, they slightly enchance but never actually innovate. The basic DS architecture is still being used, its been used since the original ds. The wiiu is a wii with a gimmick controller, the wii is a gamecube with a gimmick controller, and the 3ds is a ds with a gimmick 3d ability.

From a hardware and software standpoint I love my vita and it excels at everything the ds lacks. Just sadly its adoption has been slow at best but I still love the variety of games that can be played on it.

Has a CPP and PSP++ graphical output; PSP-esque button set features.

It was enough to "steal" games like MH, high PV KH and several anime games you would've thought should likely be on the PSP or VITA.

Ninty seems to have gotten the improved the sweet spot for portable console game development (Sony seems to have done it first with the PSP buttons/nub).

As far as variety goes.. I guess it's arguable since the PSV also has PSOne padding w/c is probably have more attractive offerings than eshop/VC but the 3DS has full DS b/c.

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