Only thing MS needs now is Japan support, agreed?

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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They finally started building on their first party which is great. It's good that they are aware of where they need to improve. Now the next step would be to try to get Japan support again. Then the console will be a complete system in my opinion. Do you agree, SW? Or are they still missing something else?

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I thought the show last night showed plenty of Japanese stuff. What more are you looking for?

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#3 SolidGame_basic
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@boycie said:

I thought the show last night showed plenty of Japanese stuff. What more are you looking for?

Would be cool if they had Japanese developers specifically develop for the Xbox like in the original Xbox days.

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Otogi series remaster?

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#5 pdogg93
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I disagree. The studio acquisitions should have happened 3 years ago. MS is playing catch up as per usual

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Japanese stuff never sold great on Xbox, pointless waste of money trying.

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#7 Heil68
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@pdogg93 said:

I disagree. The studio acquisitions should have happened 3 years ago. MS is playing catch up as per usual

And will never have laser focus on 1st party exclusives like SONY.

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#8 Archangel3371
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Well they certainly seem to be doing better in this area with the recent reveals of Tales of Vesperia Definitive Edition and Nier Automata. Would love to see a Lost Odyssey 2 and Blue Dragon 2 though.

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#9 Ant_17
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All they have to do is open a studio in Japan. After that the ball will roll and they could compete there.

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#10 Ibacai
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Microsoft is moving in the right direction. We’ll see if the gamepass is successful and whether these developers produce quality games. I would prefer some JRPG games and a stronger Japanese backing but only to round out the variety and really make it so the brand isn’t lacking.

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#11 magmadragoonx4
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A Fable and a price cut and xbox would be irresistible. I also think getting a major japanese aquisition would put them in a great position. Perhaps buy Konami entirely?

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#12  Edited By robert_sparkes
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The Xbox platform are improving I've been very honest about where ms were going after the Barron 2 years. I saw commitment to the gaming division and that's all I can ask for at this point. Tales of versperia definitive edition is a step in the right direction.

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@pdogg93: They never cared about gaming they just wanted to get into your house

goverment contracts......

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#14  Edited By BigBadBully
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Not only Japan Support but MS still needs these newly acquired studios to pull through. In time we shall see if they can get the same output/quality that we're seeing from Sony 1P .

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#15 robert_sparkes
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The studios were huge to see the intent to improve the 1st party was what we all wanted as gamers. Now it's important ms let the studios have the creative freedom that is most important. Something Sony does so well.

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#16 locopatho
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They have a new From Software game. That's Japan sorted.

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#17  Edited By Legend002
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Nier, KH3, FFVIIR, SEIKRO and even Vesperia which is so niche. They are fine and that's coming from a JRPG gamer.

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They had a fair few Japanese games on the stage.

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#19  Edited By kyacat
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@Archangel3371 said:

Well they certainly seem to be doing better in this area with the recent reveals of Tales of Vesperia Definitive Edition and Nier Automata. Would love to see a Lost Odyssey 2 and Blue Dragon 2 though.

I want Lost Odyssey 2 and could have sworn that Microsoft was supposed to show a Blue Dragon at E3 this and don't know if it was remaster but last week Gamespot had Blue Dragon list under Microsoft E 2018?

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-e3-2018-xbox-one-predictions-halo-6-perf/1100-6459227/

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#20 QuadKnight
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They are moving in the right direction but they still have a long way to go to catch up with Sony and Nintendo in first party. They need to open some studios in Japan to get some variety in their portfolio.

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#21 Archangel3371
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@kyacat: They were just speculating on what they thought might be shown at E3.

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#22 Basinboy
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They're not getting Japanese developers until they get the Japanese audience on-board. And between the offerings of Sony and Nintendo, that's highly unlikely to happen.

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#23 Shewgenja
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There is a lot of room to improve there but if I were an Xbox fan, I would say that not letting DMC5 slip out of grasp was a win for them. Also, getting Nier Automata was a sign that they know Japanese games have a presence in the west.

Xbox fans saying that Japanese games are not worth the effort because Xbox will never go big in Japan are the same jack holes saying that exclusives don't matter and the future is an always connected water cooler. Thank God MS stopped listening to them.

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#24 locopatho
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@Shewgenja said:

exclusives don't matter

Yeah cool how the WiiU sold 100 mill, lasted 8 years and won the 8th gen. Lol.

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#25 Blackhairedhero
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Whatever happened to the studio that made Blue Dragon?

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#26 Shewgenja
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@locopatho: breaking 30 million is hard. Said no PlayStation ever.

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#27  Edited By locopatho
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@Shewgenja said:

breaking 30 million is hard. Said no PlayStation ever.

Lol what shitty logic. Every PlayStation ever has had hundreds and hundreds of fantastic multiplats. Grand Theft Auto V is by far the best selling and biggest system seller PS4 has, Red Dead Redemption 2 will join it shortly. Meanwhile every Nintendo system ever has had dozens of top quality exclusives, yet they keep losing (N64, GC, post-craze Wii, WiiU. Jury still out on where Switch ends up).

You just proved my point for me, thanks.

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@blackhairedhero said:

Whatever happened to the studio that made Blue Dragon?

They make noodles now!

Very nice in a stir-fry!

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Can't wait for Xbox Duo/Zwei!

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Multiplats have never been xboxs problem it's good to see them invest and build new studios. The gaming industry needs all 3 firing and we the gamers are the winners.

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#31  Edited By AzatiS
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Only thing MS needs right now are exclusives to Xbox.

I thought they would go time exclusivity to their best games for Xbox and after a while for PC but it seems that wont happen for now. They better do that to gain momentum, saying this for a year now.

Whatever studios they get if all theyll do is going multiplatform, wont change anything. Since now will be bad to go back to what they were doing with X360 for PC gamers, time exclusivity for a while is the way to go. Thats what im suggesting and thats what im predicting will happen soon or later or else ... another hard time generation is coming for them, whatever the quality and variety of games theyll offer.

It doesnt matter really what kind of extraordinary games MS might release , the amount of PC gamers is growing more and more each year, everyone nowdays having at least 1-2 PC or laptops per home that can manage to play games. Owning an Xbox doesnt make sense for more and more people as we speak. They better do something or .. gg.

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#32  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@AzatiS: I think Microsoft are keeping parity between Xbox and Windows PC. Some of these games are exclusive to the Windows Store on PC but not all of them. For example, Ori and the Blind Forest is available on Steam.

I guess this is to keep the likes of cross-play and Play Anywhere consistent across the two platforms they are available on for their exclusive titles. I'm not sure though.

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#33  Edited By AzatiS
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@AzatiS: I think Microsoft are keeping parity between Xbox and Windows PC. Some of these games are exclusive to the Windows Store on PC but not all of them. For example, Ori and the Blind Forest is available on Steam.

I guess this is to keep the likes of cross-play and Play Anywhere consistent across the two platforms they are available on for their exclusive titles. I'm not sure though.

If MS wont do something with Xbox exclusives it really doesnt matter what kind of studios will buy or what kind of game they gonna release.

I doubt they bought so many studios of that caliber to just make multiplatform games. As i analyzed a year ago the only solution to that will be time exclusivity to xbox consoles and a transition to PC after a while. Thats my prediction to what MS will do if they wont go back to exclusivity mode for consoles, which at this point wont make any sense.

Imho if they wont do something about it, i dont think theyll have any better luck next generation. Sales wont be good vs PS5 And if i know that, they know it too.

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#34  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@AzatiS: I believe they did though. Microsoft are moving away from console exclusivity. They have 'Windows platform' exclusivity but I don't think Xbox One will have as many exclusives moving forward.

They are treating Windows PC and Xbox One as the same entity now, I believe. They offer services like Play Anywhere because they want parity between those two platforms. It would make no sense offering a service like Play Anywhere in games like Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2 only to have that service arbitrarily locked out for PC gamers for a period of time.

Since those games can only be purchased on the Windows Store, they benefit from it anyway. It means the Xbox One is a far less compelling platform (This is coming from a PC gamer and Xbox One owner) but hey, that's how it is and that's what Microsoft are wanting to do. I was playing State of Decay 2 with my brother last night. He on Xbox One and me on PC. Both used Xbox Live for voice chat. It was painless and simple. I think that's Microsoft's vision.

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#35  Edited By AzatiS
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@jumpaction said:

@AzatiS: I believe they did though. Microsoft are moving away from console exclusivity. They have 'Windows platform' exclusivity but I don't think Xbox One will have as many exclusives moving forward.

They are treating Windows PC and Xbox One as the same entity now, I believe. They offer services like Play Anywhere because they want parity between those two platforms. It would make no sense offering a service like Play Anywhere in games like Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2 only to have that service arbitrarily locked out for PC gamers for a period of time.

Since those games can only be purchased on the Windows Store, they benefit from it anyway. It means the Xbox One is a far less compelling platform (This is coming from a PC gamer and Xbox One owner) but hey, that's how it is and that's what Microsoft are wanting to do. I was playing State of Decay 2 with my brother last night. He on Xbox One and me on PC. Both used Xbox Live for voice chat. It was painless and simple. I think that's Microsoft's vision.

I dont think they want to move away, they got forced to. They knew they failed before X1 got in the market, just by watching the pre-orders. The idea of "lets go PC route" wasnt in their minds till X1 started failing big time. Yes, they were talking about it even back in the X360s early days but they never went that way because of X360 success. Now with Windows 10, PC gaming explosion and the epic fail of X1 since day 1 was the right time.

So i wont beleive for a split of second this was their idea long before they actually did it. Naaah. They didnt care about crossplay, they didnt care about PC gamers, PC gaming, PC ports, PC stores etc. As long as X360 was doing great that is.

So now they trying to translate X1 fail to " we care for PC gamers " or " we told you so " or " we like crossplay now " etc. Well, how not to when focusins on X1 alone would be a disaster. Thats what i think about this situation. I bet if X1 was a similar to X360 success story ... they wouldnt give a shit about crossplay or PC gaming or PC gamers as a whole.

That decision backfired because made X1 even a worse choice than before with zero exclusives to show off. But i guess since already it had hard time didnt matter that much in the end. PC gaming sales and such somewhat made up for this. Still though everything MS is doing is kinda messy and because it wasnt their original plan there are holes in their approach, marketing and final decisions. Will they recover next-gen ? Beh... if they keep this formula as it is ... a big NO comes in my mind as far as consoles go.

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@AzatiS: Oh, I don't actually know if this was their idea all along or if this is due to the Xbox One's situation in the market.

All I am saying is that this is what Microsoft are doing now, and will probably continue to do even with the acquisition of new studios. All of these games will be on both PC and Xbox One with maybe the exception of Halo Infinite.

The rest is conjecture that can't necessarily be proven. Cross-play is also connected with Nintendo Switch and offered for Paladins, Minecraft and Rocket League.

I don't care either way. As a PC gamer, I think it is great. I love cross-play because it lets me play with my brother who is on Xbox One.

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#37 SecretPolice
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Not gonna happen until MS announces the Mighty Surface Pro, Work & Play, Win10 gaming, buy once, play anywhere Handheld.

Nintendont = Doooomed. :P

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#38 robert_sparkes
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MS will never get the support Sony get in Japan.

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#39  Edited By deactivated-5b883bb846c10
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NO... They need to focus MORE on Europe and European devs which I consider MORE important.

They are wasting their money with Japan and Japanese gamers do not appreciate western consoles. Anyone thinking MS will get the support that Sony gets from Japan is living in lala land. FOCUS on EUROPE!

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#40 oflow
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They had From announce a new game at their presser and 4-5 other weeb titles. What more do you want?

The real weebs will always go Sony & Nintendo first no point in going overboard with it.