ok this is not cool sheep it needs to end....

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="n1ntendorevO"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

I agree but sales still count because the system that sells well gets more support from Developers so if the console is selling great we will start to get more games, and hopefully they will be good since Developers are finally starting to put time in development of Wii games instead of just porting crap over so in a few months we will see some Quality 3rd party games releasing they are already getting announced.

MikeE21286

Yeah, this is THE ONLY place that sales matters. I mean it's nice that Wii is gonna get some 3rd parties......but it WILL NEVER get the main third party franchises (MGS,FF,RE,DMC etc)

Ok.....lemme take a minute to deny your ownage...............

Will Wii owners play......

**MGS4? Nope....who cares where it started cuz you won't be playin it on Wii

**FFXIII? Nope (and BTW Crystal Chronicles is utter trash if you didn't play the first one on GC)

----Yeah, the DS got Dragon Quest IX, not the Wii

**RE5? Nope

**Yet Again DMC4? No

We can keep going just to rub it in..........

GTA IV? Nope

Ninja Gaiden 2? Nope

OWNED

Yeah, I know....it's called Dragon Quest Joker.....but again its just a spinoff of the main series to cash in off of

[QUOTE="famousking"][QUOTE="shsonline"]

They sure can't talk about owning anybody with the games

 

MikeE21286

hahaha OK we won't even bring up the guy who tried to make a comparison of top games and was embarassed outta the thread cuz there were 7 10-year old VC games. 

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="famousking"][QUOTE="shsonline"]

They sure can't talk about owning anybody with the games

 

Ultimate_Peon

hahaha OK we won't even bring up the guy who tried to make a comparison of top games and was embarassed outta the thread cuz there were 7 10-year old VC games.

Wait, he wasn't talking about ME, was he? I posted the top 10 games for a reason, why would I attempt to own myself if I was making the point the Wii didn't have games? 

Wait, he wasn't talking about ME, was he? I posted the top 10 games for a reason, why would I attempt to own myself if I was making the point the Wii didn't have games? shsonline

"Wow, embarassing. You claim ownage for Wii with 7 10-year old VC Games......that's no good there."

 Seems like he was talking to you to me.

Sheep need to realise that the wii isn´t even in the same race, microsoft doesn´t care, sony doesn´t care. The wii is mainstream like britney spears and guess what, britney sells a whole lot of albums, your not gonna tell me it´s "good" music are you?Eddie-Vedder

I can agree with the sheep logic gameplay over graphics but while lemmings and cows may be graphic whores sheep have become somthing much worse sales whores. the sheep constantly use it as there main source of ownage... at least graphics have somthing to do with the games but sheep just care about sales imo I may be wrong but i mean in a thread i was in like 5 sheep tried to pwn some guy by bragging about the wii's sales... sorry but this just gets me stick to gameplay sheep becuse you look stupis when you bring up sales non stop. ..kingyoto

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Sheep need to realise that the wii isn´t even in the same race, microsoft doesn´t care, sony doesn´t care. The wii is mainstream like britney spears and guess what, britney sells a whole lot of albums, your not gonna tell me it´s "good" music are you?Ultimate_Peon

 Good music isn´t just a matter of opinion, your entitled to your opinion of course, free to it, but music isn´t something that you are born with, you can be born with talent, but music you have to learn, and most of the top selling albums in every country are pretty bad, shallow, typical, uncomplicated crap that´s simply easy to listen to cause you´ve heard the same damn thing the last bunch of years to the common folk it´s fresh and new and diferent, then a month later they go on to something else. This also kind of explains why I don´t like the wii so much, but I like the wii a lot more then bad music lol.

Sheep need to realise that the wii isn´t even in the same race, microsoft doesn´t care, sony doesn´t care. The wii is mainstream like britney spears and guess what, britney sells a whole lot of albums, your not gonna tell me it´s "good" music are you?Eddie-Vedder

Good music isn´t just a matter of opinion, your entitled to your opinion of course, free to it, but music isn´t something that you are born with, you can be born with talent, but music you have to learn, and most of the top selling albums in every country are pretty bad, shallow, typical, uncomplicated crap that´s simply easy to listen to cause you´ve heard the same damn thing the last bunch of years to the common folk it´s fresh and new and diferent, then a month later they go on to something else. This also kind of explains why I don´t like the wii so much, but I like the wii a lot more then bad music lol. Eddie-Vedder

I'd debate whether something being good or not isn't a matter of opinion, but System Wars isn't really the place for that sort of conversation. So I'll just say that perhaps these people buying the albums are looking for something different than you are in music to buy.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] Good music isn´t just a matter of opinion, your entitled to your opinion of course, free to it, but music isn´t something that you are born with, you can be born with talent, but music you have to learn, and most of the top selling albums in every country are pretty bad, shallow, typical, uncomplicated crap that´s simply easy to listen to cause you´ve heard the same damn thing the last bunch of years to the common folk it´s fresh and new and diferent, then a month later they go on to something else. This also kind of explains why I don´t like the wii so much, but I like the wii a lot more then bad music lol. Ultimate_Peon

I'd debate whether something being good or not isn't a matter of opinion, but System Wars isn't really the place for that sort of conversation. So I'll just say that perhaps these people buying the albums are looking for something different than you are in music to buy.

That´s my point exactly, I would love to have a wii I´m sure I would have some good times with it, but it is different, it´s not really in the same category, I mean I think you either prefer a wii or in the other corner you have the ppl who prefer a 360 or ps3, some pick the 360 some pick the ps3, but I´m pretty sure if  a cow couldn´t play a ps3 anymore they would go to the 360, and vice versa, it´s really a different experience and therefor not in the same race. This must sound like a major bash to the wii but that really wasn´t what I intended.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="n1ntendorevO"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

I agree but sales still count because the system that sells well gets more support from Developers so if the console is selling great we will start to get more games, and hopefully they will be good since Developers are finally starting to put time in development of Wii games instead of just porting crap over so in a few months we will see some Quality 3rd party games releasing they are already getting announced.

MikeE21286

Yeah, this is THE ONLY place that sales matters. I mean it's nice that Wii is gonna get some 3rd parties......but it WILL NEVER get the main third party franchises (MGS,FF,RE,DMC etc)

Ok.....lemme take a minute to deny your ownage...............

Will Wii owners play......

**MGS4? Nope....who cares where it started cuz you won't be playin it on Wii

**FFXIII? Nope (and BTW Crystal Chronicles is utter trash if you didn't play the first one on GC)

----Yeah, the DS got Dragon Quest IX, not the Wii

**RE5? Nope

**Yet Again DMC4? No

We can keep going just to rub it in..........

GTA IV? Nope

Ninja Gaiden 2? Nope

OWNED

Yeah, I know....it's called Dragon Quest Joker.....but again its just a spinoff of the main series to cash in off of

Yeah, you can't really give "sales" as a reason to own a system. That's just ridiculously dumbMikeE21286

Well, sales usually means more games.  Unfortunately in the case of the Wii it will mean more mini-game compilations and cooking sims.  :lol: 

That´s my point exactly, I would love to have a wii I´m sure I would have some good times with it, but it is different, it´s not really in the same category, I mean I think you either prefer a wii or in the other corner you have the ppl who prefer a 360 or ps3, some pick the 360 some pick the ps3, but I´m pretty sure if  a cow couldn´t play a ps3 anymore they would go to the 360, and vice versa, it´s really a different experience and therefor not in the same race. This must sound like a major bash to the wii but that really wasn´t what I intended. Eddie-Vedder

The 360 and PS3 would certainly seem to be closer to each other right now than the Wii, that is true, though that might change somewhat after the libraries of the three systems solidify. At any rate the Wii is still competing with the other two for a share of the same market, as I believe most people still do not buy more than one console and that is something I'm sure Microsoft and Sony care about.

Sheep need to realise that the wii isn´t even in the same race, microsoft doesn´t care, sony doesn´t care. The wii is mainstream like britney spears and guess what, britney sells a whole lot of albums, your not gonna tell me it´s "good" music are you?Eddie-Vedder

I can agree with the sheep logic gameplay over graphics but while lemmings and cows may be graphic whores sheep have become somthing much worse sales whores. the sheep constantly use it as there main source of ownage... at least graphics have somthing to do with the games but sheep just care about sales imo I may be wrong but i mean in a thread i was in like 5 sheep tried to pwn some guy by bragging about the wii's sales... sorry but this just gets me stick to gameplay sheep becuse you look stupis when you bring up  sales non stop. ..kingyoto

I don't remember ever thinking, "Hey that console gets lots of sales, I think I'll buy it!"cheezisgoooood

[QUOTE="kingyoto"]I can agree with the sheep logic gameplay over graphics but while lemmings and cows may be graphic whores sheep have become somthing much worse sales whores. the sheep constantly use it as there main source of ownage... at least graphics have somthing to do with the games but sheep just care about sales imo I may be wrong but i mean in a thread i was in like 5 sheep tried to pwn some guy by bragging about the wii's sales... sorry but this just gets me stick to gameplay sheep becuse you look stupis when you bring up sales non stop. ..NRGCDS

[QUOTE="NRGCDS"][QUOTE="kingyoto"]I can agree with the sheep logic gameplay over graphics but while lemmings and cows may be graphic whores sheep have become somthing much worse sales whores. the sheep constantly use it as there main source of ownage... at least graphics have somthing to do with the games but sheep just care about sales imo I may be wrong but i mean in a thread i was in like 5 sheep tried to pwn some guy by bragging about the wii's sales... sorry but this just gets me stick to gameplay sheep becuse you look stupis when you bring up sales non stop. ..kingyoto

only when the wii graphics bashing ends.OGTiago

[QUOTE="OGTiago"]only when the wii graphics bashing ends.kingyoto

People need to understand things dont just change over night, games take years to develop. This is a business, so even though it seems like a dumb reason to go buy a console, it works because sales dictate support so buying a console that sells will almost ensures that it will have the software along side it. Later this year the effects of Wii's strong sales will be seen with larger amounts of games announced and more of those games with high production values.

[QUOTE="OGTiago"]only when the wii graphics bashing ends.kingyoto

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="OGTiago"]only when the wii graphics bashing ends.enduin

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="OGTiago"]only when the wii graphics bashing ends.AvinashTyagi

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="OGTiago"]only when the wii graphics bashing ends.kingyoto

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="OGTiago"]only when the wii graphics bashing ends.AvinashTyagi

[QUOTE="enduin"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="OGTiago"]only when the wii graphics bashing ends.kingyoto

Fanboys are awesome...

Last Gen, no cows cared about graphics

No sheep cared about sales

and no lemming cared about gameplay.

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="enduin"][QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="OGTiago"]only when the wii graphics bashing ends.enduin

I don't get why we can't use sales as something to brag about for the Wii

There is a REASON why Wii is selling better than 360 and PS3 momentarily, what do you think the reason is?

And if you say the motion sensing 'gimmick', GRAPHICS are just as much a a gimmick as motion sensing.  To me, showing a commercial for a PS3 game and showing off amazing graphics is no different than showing someone using a wii remote showing off the motion sensing. 

Fanboys are awesome...

Last Gen, no cows cared about graphics

No sheep cared about sales

and no lemming cared about gameplay.

tekkenlaw

I don't get why we can't use sales as something to brag about for the Wii

There is a REASON why Wii is selling better than 360 and PS3 momentarily, what do you think the reason is?

And if you say the motion sensing 'gimmick', GRAPHICS are just as much a a gimmick as motion sensing. To me, showing a commercial for a PS3 game and showing off amazing graphics is no different than showing someone using a wii remote showing off the motion sensing.

NATATO

I don't get why we can't use sales as something to brag about for the Wii

There is a REASON why Wii is selling better than 360 and PS3 momentarily, what do you think the reason is?

And if you say the motion sensing 'gimmick', GRAPHICS are just as much a a gimmick as motion sensing. To me, showing a commercial for a PS3 game and showing off amazing graphics is no different than showing someone using a wii remote showing off the motion sensing.

NATATO

A main argument for the Wii getting the gimmick rep is for the fact that the Wii-mote might not be around past this console. Graphics will always be there, therefore not a gimmick.  Graphics are an inherent part of the videogame industry.

[QUOTE="NATATO"]

I don't get why we can't use sales as something to brag about for the Wii

There is a REASON why Wii is selling better than 360 and PS3 momentarily, what do you think the reason is?

And if you say the motion sensing 'gimmick', GRAPHICS are just as much a a gimmick as motion sensing. To me, showing a commercial for a PS3 game and showing off amazing graphics is no different than showing someone using a wii remote showing off the motion sensing.

kingyoto

lol that's been around forever dude. Racist? Towards the PS3? Unless you're joking, last time i checked PS3 fanboys isn't a race. How bout countering what I said.

[QUOTE="NATATO"]

I don't get why we can't use sales as something to brag about for the Wii

There is a REASON why Wii is selling better than 360 and PS3 momentarily, what do you think the reason is?

And if you say the motion sensing 'gimmick', GRAPHICS are just as much a a gimmick as motion sensing. To me, showing a commercial for a PS3 game and showing off amazing graphics is no different than showing someone using a wii remote showing off the motion sensing.

MikeE21286

A main argument for the Wii getting the gimmick rep is for the fact that the Wii-mote might not be around past this console. Graphics will always be there, therefore not a gimmick. Graphics are an inherent part of the videogame industry.

[QUOTE="kingyoto"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

I don't get why we can't use sales as something to brag about for the Wii

There is a REASON why Wii is selling better than 360 and PS3 momentarily, what do you think the reason is?

And if you say the motion sensing 'gimmick', GRAPHICS are just as much a a gimmick as motion sensing. To me, showing a commercial for a PS3 game and showing off amazing graphics is no different than showing someone using a wii remote showing off the motion sensing.

NATATO

lol that's been around forever dude. Racist? Towards the PS3? Unless you're joking, last time i checked PS3 fanboys isn't a race. How bout countering what I said.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Yeah, you can't really give "sales" as a reason to own a system. That's just ridiculously dumbkingyoto

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

I agree but sales still count because the system that sells well gets more support from Developers so if the console is selling great we will start to get more games, and hopefully they will be good since Developers are finally starting to put time in development of Wii games instead of just porting crap over so in a few months we will see some Quality 3rd party games releasing they are already getting announced.

MikeE21286

Yeah, this is THE ONLY place that sales matters. I mean it's nice that Wii is gonna get some 3rd parties......but it WILL NEVER get the main third party franchises (MGS,FF,RE,DMC etc)

However that leads the way for great new franchises being made for the Wii hopefully