Nintendo has reached the limits of Wii U hardware

Saw that article yesterday.

And this is exactly what I thought.

Eh, at least "N" brought the HD for this gen so really for me all it needs is a better price to performance ratio and I'll bite especially when new Zelda hits the street.

Assassin's Creed Unity is 900p... Watch Dogs? Wasn't that 900p. Sleeping Dogs, is that even 1080p and 60fps? All the last gen ports?

Have I proven the PS4 is tapped out?

Eh, knowing TC he just needed something to combat those 3DS sales and Bayonettas 10.

Okay first off: "It’s not as though it is news that the Wii U is underpowered when compared to the Xbox One or the PS4. No one expected Destiny to be available on the Wii U, despite how undeniably cool that game would be to play on the Gamepad." lol yes we've heard how awesome it is.

Secondly, I don't care, because we knew what we were getting with the Wii U. So it having weaker hardware wouldn't stop me getting one, in fact the games look fun. They look better than I thought they would and I'm sure they play great, and if sales pick up, I'm sure it'll get the 3rd party games as well. They don't have to be multiplats, what do I need the other consoles for, I have a PC.

But the Wii U is acceptable because Nintendo never told us it was teh super charged PC. Where as with the X1 and PS4, we were told they are teh POWAH. Where as in reality mobile technology is catching up to them faster than ever with Nvidia making GPU architecture more efficient than we would have imagined thanks to their Tegra research (led to Maxwell design) and AMD making more powerful and mobile APUs all the time as they have huge potential in this area. And these teh poweh consoles struggle to get to 1080p and far worse they struggle to get frame rates above 30fps on games unless we want the games to look like last gen titles on high settings.

So Wii U = 'ahhh it's better than I thought and the game look fun'

X1 and PS4 = 'WTF is this disappointing shit, the games look a bit better than last gen'

The only thing the current gen consoles truly smoke last gen consoles at is physics. Graphics aren't impressing me in the context of a gen leap, and ai is a research based thing.

This is fuckin Nintendo we're talkin about, TC. Go play Driveclub.

@cainetao11 said:

This is fuckin Nintendo we're talkin about, TC. Go play Driveclub.

I own a Wii U lol. In fact last year I was promoting it while everyone else was taking a dump on it.

That's cute...back to my awesome Wii U library now...

@SolidGame_basic said:

@cainetao11 said:

This is fuckin Nintendo we're talkin about, TC. Go play Driveclub.

I own a Wii U lol. In fact last year I was promoting it while everyone else was taking a dump on it.

As Tormentos says, "its not what you own, its what you spend your time championing"

Not until Xenoblade Chronicles X releases I think. And maybe not even.

Oh shit, you are telling me that rendering a game twice will push the system more than the usual one render output that is the TV?! Why I would never...

Hold the phone, Sherlock Holmes is in town and he is on to something. Lets gather around and see how this particular process heavy use of the Gamepad connects to the idea that the Wii U has been tapped out in a well thought, logical manner!!!

Common sense

PS3 none of prior games used its full capabilities

Wii u better than PS3 so......

Isn't the gpu in the console a modified version of a low end gpu that is anywere from 4-7 years old.

Even if this were the case I wouldn't really care. Of course it's not though.

OP, sometimes you're an alright dude and sometimes you're just so damn naive.

Yes, its considered a "modern" gpu. He is talking out of his ass

The wii u renders the games twice on the weakest hardware basically bring it back to almost 360 level graphics. That said finally there is a game I want in bayonetta 2 on it if I can find one for cheap I will play it.

yea, real modern.

That article is purely speculative and was probably written by Speak_Low (who is still waiting for the Philips lawsuit to ban Wii U console sales).

I believe that when hell freezes over judging by super Mario galaxy Wii if they were able to get that to look the way it did on Wii they can do more on wiiu

TC is making stuff up... but even if is WAG is accurate... 1080p at 60 frames a sec seems to be a nice limit for this gen (for consoles at least). Maybe someday X1 and ps4 can match that.

And yet no game on WiiU looks better than Uncharted 2/3,KZ3 and God of War 3 on PS3.WiiU.....lol

As long as they dont **** up Xenoblade Chronicles, the only game I actually want for the system, I'll be ok.

Not that big a problem since I don't think people go for the console for the graphics.

@AtariKidX: yep it was only slightly better than ps3 but i don't think wii u users bought console for graphics anyway so argument pretty much is irrelevant.

Stupid would be a more accurate term IMO.

All the consoles are reaching their limits.

Is uncharted running at a locked 60 fps? Because me and friends tried to make SM3DW do a frame drop and we couldn't make it happen.

Where's your "10" brother? :D

You do realize that SM3DW has very small levels right? You can do 60 fps when you have less to work with...

They are pushing more graphics and pixels but it runs poorly as a result -___-;
More like the devs are not as capable I reckon.

@SolidGame_basic: what's your Nintendo ID and your 3DS FC?

Yeah Fast Racing Neo is pulling off stuff that Horizon 2 and Drive Club aren't doing. The Ps4 and Xbox One already reached it's limit seeing how games are only running at 30fps and being suited with a very weak CPU.

Then why isn't Uncharted at 60fps when there is far less things going on screen?

Are you saying that SM3DW is on the same level as Uncharted 3 from a technical perspective? Therefore, Uncharted would run 60 fps on Wii U?

Again with the gameplay shit? You tell me, then, how exactly is any game on PlayStation or Xbox different from two or three generations ago? What is GTA5? Same game, a little prettier? What is Watch Dogs, same game as Assassin's Creed, in a modern world? What is Metal Gear Solid, same game but prettier? Final Fantasy?

You sound so daft and are shifting so many goalposts. Your arguments about gameplay do not just apply to Nintendo. They apply to everybody, even the games on the 'limitless hardware' of the PS4. If the gameplay is still the same and still limited across consoles, then the author's (and yours) argument about hardware power is asinine and falls apart. Just stop.

@SolidGame_basic: Again ... What's your NNID

Blah. Blah. Blah. Goalposts. Blah Blah. Blah. You have yet to show that you actually have digested what is being said. If you think that Wii U games are going to be much bigger and better than they are now you are absolutely wrong. There is nothing in Nintendo's track records that even validates this. Tell me what games last gen show that Nintendo really pushed the system so much that they were drastically different than their predecessors. And I'll get some popcorn so I can enjoy this.

@SolidGame_basic: Super Mario Galaxy 2. There, that was easy. Why are you ignoring Kaze?

Exactly what makes Uncharted 3 more advance than any Wii U game? first off Both the PS3 can barely run games at 720p at 60fps let alone 30 when games like Battlefield and Crysis struggle to run on those systems. And before you say Sonic Boom that game is running on a modified Cryengine to be able to play split screen. Super Mario 3D world used deferred rendering which is something not possible on the Ps3 and 360 without bottlenecking the system. And yet the Wii U is able to maintain a lock 60fps

Xenoblade Chronicles. No game like it on GameCube.

Lol char is getting destroyed in this thread

@Blabadon: One has to truly have tunnel vision, or just be a terrible troll with no sense of perspective, to think I am 'getting destroyed.' In your case, both apply, so I don't know why I expected better.

a nonsense argument from the link in the OP. oh look it cant render 2 seperate images and send them to 2 different screens while keeping the detail maxed out....the wiiu must be tapped out.

im going to use the same logic for the PS4 and X1: oh look they cant consistently render games at 1080P and 60FPS. they cant even touch 1440P. must be tapped out. crappy consoles.

oh look my PC cant play shadows of mordor, rome 2 and X rebirth at the same time nor can it send the game feeds to 3 different TVs at the same time....must be maxed out. what a crappy PC.

nonsense argument.

when nintendo and monolith say the wiiu is maxed out...its maxed out. next year wiiu games go from confined and smaller levels to massive open worlds like zelda and X. thats a pretty nice upgrade from what is currently available on the wiiu.

im very critical of the wiiu hardware. nintendo got it really really badly wrong on so many levels. but the argument that its maxed out doesnt even make sense. define maxed out. how is it measured? what evidence does a game need to show to prove that its maxed out the console? what if said game just has crappy code that drives the hardware to its maximum capacity...but gets a poor result? what if one games looks stunning but has small levels while another game looks a bit rough but is like skyrim or X....which has maxed the console out more?

i always have a belief (though by no means is this any sort of fact or even guide really). when you see a game and you cant believe its running on a platform then its approaching maxed out. so games like god of war 2 on the PS2, zelda TP on the gamecube, xenoblade on the wii (which is not the best looking game on the wii but its a miracle from a tech standpoint), halo 2 on the first xbox (im not a fan of the game but i have to hand it to bungie...amazing technical feat there), moon on the DS. when games like these arrive then its time to start thinking "ok how much is left in the tank?". as i say though this is only a gut feeling. there is nothing concrete about it.

so far nothing on the wiiu that i have seen has made me think this. i do think X is approaching it (if it really is possible to go from one end of the world with no loading screens and you can see the whole world while flying high up). i dont know if monolith will get a second bite at the wiiu but it would be interesting to see if they could squeez any more out of it with a second title.

@osan0: but if PS4 can't make 1080p/60ps, and Wii U is far inferior to it, what exactly are you expecting from Nintendo this gen? because saying it's not maxed out as opposed to its current state is semantics. it's already been 2 years. I'm waiting for Nintendo to convince me otherwise.

rather be tapped out of graphics than gameplay ideas like xbox and playstation.

But Wii U *is* doing 1080p/60FPS.

@charizard1605: where?

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U.

Mario Kart 8, and Mario 3D World I believe, was said to be 1080p at first. They both ended up being 720p.