Next Xbox Already In Development, Microsoft Insider Confirms

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#1 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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So, to summarize:

  • The Xbox One X is not the final Xbox system, and Microsoft has no intention of leaving the market
  • It already is under active development, with a full codename and everything
  • It will not launch in the next 2 years
  • It may be a half step improvement over the Xbox One X (making it a full step improvement over the existing Xbox One)
  • Microsoft is committed to no generations going forward
  • Phil Spencer has 'heard the feedback' regarding MS's horrendous first party. Whether or not he intends to do something about it is unclear, but there is at least that.

What is your take?

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#2  Edited By CrashNBurn281
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Too soon! Too soon Executus!

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#3 Jebus213
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I'm upgrading my PC in two years.

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#4  Edited By Ap3xLyfe
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As long as it doesn't come out within the next two years I'll be happy.

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#5 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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And let me guess, it will be more than twice as powerful as the PS5, which itself will be more than twice as powerful as the X1X, which itself is more than twice as powerful as the PS4 Pro, which itself is more than twice as powerful as the PS4, which itself is marginally more powerful than the XB1, which is a turd.

This stuff is tiring.

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#6 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@reduc_ab_: So what I am hearing you say is that you are greatly interested in the Nintendo Switch?

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#8  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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No surprises here... sounds good to me. As long as it doesn't release too soon.

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#9 FireEmblem_Man
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I'm hoping more cross-play support titles between Next Gen Xbox and the Switch/next gen Nintendo conso.e

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#10 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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@charizard1605: That's some interesting logic. ;)

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#11 smashed_pinata
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@crashnburn281 said:

Too soon! Too soon Executus!

I wish i had thought of this

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#12  Edited By ronvalencia
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@charizard1605: Microsoft has entered into PC OEM hardware business and why would MS exit from the hardware business?

Surface Pro with AMD Raven Ridge SoC please...

X1X dev kit already has 6.6 TFLOPS GPU and 24 GB memory storage.

Let's see..

With 7 nm process tech, Vega 10's 1630 Mhz with 88 CU yields 18 TFLOPS. 88 CU doubles X1X's 44 CU GPU.

Memory bandwidth should double towards 652 GB/s via GDDR6 memory modules.

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#13 Celsius765
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@FireEmblem_Man: I wish I could give your comment a like.

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#14  Edited By ronvalencia
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@reduc_ab_ said:

And let me guess, it will be more than twice as powerful as the PS5, which itself will be more than twice as powerful as the X1X, which itself is more than twice as powerful as the PS4 Pro, which itself is more than twice as powerful as the PS4, which itself is marginally more powerful than the XB1, which is a turd.

This stuff is tiring.

Relentless evolution is part of PC hardware market. Stay with PowerPC for costly hardware upgrades and custom instruction set dead ends.

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#15 dan_mimmsie
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ms like to screw evwry1 over

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#16 PinkAnimal
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Lol weren't lems making fun of Sony because they had already the PS5 in mind? Well Microsoft is even worse, they haven't even released the X1X and already planning the next. What would it cost? $600?

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#17 lamprey263
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surely they're always in R&D phase, what's to say they're setting any particular direction in stone yet, my guess is they'll stick with the mid-gen upgrade as long as they can until Sony unveils the PS5 proper and attempt to go toe-to-toe with them when that happens

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#18  Edited By Howmakewood
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But cows told me there wont be a next one, they wouldn't lie

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#19 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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Wow, two years? Does MS want anyone buying their stuff?

This will backfire if true.

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#20 PSP107
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None of these modern/future system will never be better than SNES.

Current systems have the power but the games have been average the last 10-12 years.

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#22 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@Random_Matt said:

Wow, two years? Does MS want anyone buying their stuff?

This will backfire if true.

It clearly said NOT in 2 years...

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#23  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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Well you wouldn't be a good company if you weren't working on a new console.

It's pretty much a given that say when PS5 releases, they start thinking about and R&D'ing the next playstation.

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#24 nethernova
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Well, of course it's already in development. That's to be expected of any company. Are the hardware developers supposed to sit on their asses for a few years?

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#25 HalcyonScarlet
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"Well generation's are over".

Kind of why I'm done with MS and Sony consoles.

PC and Nintendo for consoles for me now.

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#26 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

"Well generation's are over".

Kind of why I'm done with MS and Sony consoles.

PC and Nintendo for consoles for me now.

How does PC have generations?

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#27 Vaidream45
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Never been a better time to be a PC/Nintendo owner instead of this crazy crap. I sure don't wanna upgrade consoles every few years and buy these games not knowing if the next system will be backwards compatible or what. Too bad Steam Machines blew it so badly because that would have been a great future of consoles packed with thousands of games to play instead of this games reset every new console.

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#28 Litchie
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Oooh, an Xbox One XXX 360 X.. X. One.. box.

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#29 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@reduc_ab_ said:

And let me guess, it will be more than twice as powerful as the PS5, which itself will be more than twice as powerful as the X1X, which itself is more than twice as powerful as the PS4 Pro, which itself is more than twice as powerful as the PS4, which itself is marginally more powerful than the XB1, which is a turd.

This stuff is tiring.

And all of them are 100x more powerful then that wet fart you call PSVR :P

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#30 VFighter
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@vaidream45: Psssttt, you don't have to buy new consoles every few years, my og ps4 will be fine well into the next gen of consoles.

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#31  Edited By Ten_Pints
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To be honest they really want to be releasing it as soon as the AMD/globalfoundaries 7nm APUs become available. The next gen is gonna stick around for a while if they can get in early then they will take the market for quite a number of years.

We are getting extremely close to the limits of silicon and the cost in researching and making this stuff is skyrocketing.

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#32 DaVillain  Moderator
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I already knew MS was in developing a new next-gen console so this does not surprise me and Phil kinda mention this before Scorpio reveal awhile back. No point in me speculating on specs or any innovation at this time.

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#33  Edited By pelvist
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When I used to buy consoles for myself, having a system that didn't need to be upgraded for 5-10 years was a blessing and the only real benefit of owning a console over a PC in console v PC arguments. Exclusives were never a big reason as I found most of them were actually overhyped shite.

Now I always keep my PC up to date and sometimes it costs quite a lot, like when I need a new video card for instance, but that is justified since my computer does a lot more than just playing games and I am safe in the knowledge that it has the latest hardware. Paying £500 for a new console with mid range PC specs every 2-3 years just makes me more glad that I stopped buying them for myself after the PS3/360.

Im also glad that my daughter likes Nintendo.

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#34 xhawk27
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It's going to be out a year after the PS5.

@dan_mimmsie said:

ms like to screw evwry1 over

Yeah like Sony does?

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#35 PinkAnimal
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I just hope they're working on actual games for this. What good is to flood the market with gaming hardware with no worthwhile games to play?

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#36 nepu7supastar7
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@charizard1605:

I doubt generations are dead. Once ps5 comes out, MS will have no choice but to follow suit.

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#37  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@killered3 said:

@charizard1605:

I doubt generations are dead. Once ps5 comes out, MS will have no choice but to follow suit.

Pretty much this. Sony however made the mistake with PS3 and let MS go first when they launch Xbox 360 and I doubt Sony isn't gonna bother to wait for MS announcing there next-gen console this time around. I hope both of them at least just announce there next-gen consoles like around 2020.

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#38  Edited By lrdfancypants
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Love this strategy.

Release one every 2 years. Bye bye PC.

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#39 aroxx_ab
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@FastRobby said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

"Well generation's are over".

Kind of why I'm done with MS and Sony consoles.

PC and Nintendo for consoles for me now.

How does PC have generations?

Generations of hardware

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#40 knight-k
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In other news:

Water is wet

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#41 HitmanActual
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Real True 4K?

Real Native 4K?

Extra UHD 4K?

High End PC True Native 4K?

I wonder what marketing PR bullshit they will use to market this one?

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#42  Edited By SecretPolice
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Poo cows just can't catch a break these dayzzz.... Phony's BS5 is already DOA. lol :P

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#43 maverick5683
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Some of these responses are funny. Any decent company in any industry is always working on the new product's replacement immediately upon launch, if not before. As an example I work for an automaker, and pretty much the minute Car Y releases, the next generation of Car Y is in development. I'm sure that Apple is probably already working on the iPhone 9, and Nintendo is probably working on whatever will replace the Switch.

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#44  Edited By 22Toothpicks
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My take is that this whole mid gen upgrade stuff is a terrible idea. Make a console with a cpu that has enough omph to be future proof and build it with modularity in mind as to allow other components to be upgraded individually. I mean shit theyr doing everything they can to be pc's may as well go all in on that concept.

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#45 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@reduc_ab_: You're saying you're tired of the endless rat race that is the power game and want some good games instead.

So, Switch?

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#46 stereointegrity
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@ronvalencia said:

@charizard1605: Microsoft has entered into PC OEM hardware business and why would MS exit from the hardware business?

Surface Pro with AMD Raven Ridge SoC please...

X1X dev kit already has 6.6 TFLOPS GPU and 24 GB memory storage.

Let's see..

With 7 nm process tech, Vega 10's 1630 Mhz with 88 CU yields 18 TFLOPS. 88 CU doubles X1X's 44 CU GPU.

Memory bandwidth should double towards 652 GB/s via GDDR6 memory modules.

price

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#47 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@aroxx_ab said:

Generations of hardware

The type of hardware that's also new in the consoles... Thing is that MS is getting closer to PC instead of further away, while you make it sound like it's the opposite.

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#48 emgesp
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Well, they have to wait until 7nm process is viable which is probably 2019 - 2020. Doubt they wait longer than that, especially since I'm 99% confident Sony will have something ready to launch in 2019.

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#49 VFighter
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@lrdfancypants: Consoles aren't going to be released every 2 years, and pc isn't going anywhere.

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#50 N64DD
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@ronvalencia said:

Why do I get the feeling you were for AMD?