ND won't push UC4 to 60fps if it compromises experience

@Heirren: The actual problem came from ND saying it was all "in game engine". When you say shit like that and then can't deliver, well you look stupid. They made PS fanboys scream "only ps4 can do 1080p/60fps because of the POWER"...

@charomid:

And who is to say that is wasn't? Something people seem to not understand is the amount of detail even allowed in 1080p at the playable distance Uncharted takes on. That close up detail, even with the highest of high end pcs would not even be visible in gameplay. I'm not saying a powerful pc game couldn't look better, just that people make this assumption that somehow an impossible level of detail can be seen by the player at all times.

Time will tell and the bottom line is that I think Naughty Dog will deliver on most levels--even now I think people are selling the visuals short basing their judgement on a compressed video. Even the slightest of compression makes finer detail appear somewhat blurred.

Meaning that they wont push for 60 if it compromises the graphics to a degree that they feel would be to much.

Great.. Another generation where big budget developers put a lesser emphasis on gameplay experience (60 = much lower input lag and better response time, not to mention much better visual fluidity) and more on the visual experience. **** you.

Lmao... they were NEVER going to hit 60fps at the quality of the launch trailer anyway.

Only dumb ass cows believed it..

The gameplay reveal looked downgraded to shit and didn't run at any where close to fps..

Dumb ass cows owned again

Oh please. Stop this targeting bullshit. After the reveal ND devs were tweeting how its the minimum quality and they are aiming for even higher. Look up system wars many of your cow brethern has posted the same tweet. LOL targeting 60 after outright lying about it.

Oh please. Stop this targeting bullshit. After the reveal ND devs were tweeting how its the minimum quality and they are aiming for even higher. Look up system wars many of your cow brethern has posted the same tweet. LOL targeting 60 after outright lying about it.

Sacrifice what? the game only looks "above average" as it is lol.

By making this announcement I think its them saying and trying not to look like tools in the process that it isn't going to be 60fps, Was probably never the target and just sony feel good propaganda but we will never know. (not unless you work at ND)

I am sure 30fps will be fine for this kind of game. Even if cows want locked 60fps I don't think they are getting it.

That Xbox 360 Crystal Dynamics Rise of the Tomb Raider game looks tight!

The Rise of TR cross gen port to Xbone better be 60fps like the last TR reboot, since it has 360 graphics.

First of all, it's a question of priorities. Even if the PS4 had the double performance, ND might still decide to sacrifice 60fps for the maximum possible visual fx. After all, visuals are a better marketing argument than framerates.

Furthermore, that ND may decide to compromise on framerate right now, does not imply that they will never be able to deliver 60fps. Mastering the PS4 is certainly not as easy as some say. In order to max out the PS4 hardware, developers need to deal with the following challenges (in this sequence):

1. The optimal use of the PS4's GPGPU capabilities has to be understood.
2. The development infrastructure has to be optimized for GPGPU. This includes changed to libraries and middleware like Havok.
3. The game developers have to figure out which tasks can be performed efficiently via GPGPU (this is partly try and error).
4. The game developers must perform as many tasks as possible via GPGPU (this is similar effort as with the SPUs of the Cell processor).
5. All the tasks that remain for the CPU must be distributed as efficiently as possible across the six CPU cores that are available for the game developers. This includes restructuring the main thread of current game engines.

Maximum performance will only be reached after all of these challenges have been dealt with. This is the reason, why Sony says that the maximum performance will not be reached before 2016 or even 2017.

So no, PS4 programming is not as easy as some folks say. At least not, when you want to facilitate the PS4's GPGPU capabilities. Also, GPGPU will most likely not have a negative impact on the graphics processing speed, because the PS4 has more GPU cores than the CPU can make use of without GPGPU. Already during the design of the PS4 about 20% of the GPU power has been intended for GPGPU.

Lems still trying to hype up Rise of the Tomb Raider? After the reboot I'm surprised people still care about that franchise.

This is no reboot bruh. This is real. You know you want it. Roll it Phil.

Yes, I am aware the -sequel- to the reboot is real. It was also multiplat at the time that trailer was announced.

But hey, dem deep pockets getting a six month rental of Squeenix's worst Western franchise. I am envious.

I'm not shocked it won't hit 60 fps. Sony's focus is on resolution and graphics and it should probably stay there. A high fps is a hallmark of quality gameplay and should probably stay there.