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#51  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@PinkieWinkie said:

@mbirdy88: oh you mean the games that NDs completely destroyed in metacritic reviews? How many goty awards did those games win? Face it, when it comes to games development ND >>> Valve

you mean like most flashy games that are short and ridiculously simple that critics love?

gone home... PC game of the year... bwhahahaa.

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#52 V3rciS
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Even MS respects "Godly Dog". One of the smartest moves Sony ever did to invest in this studio.

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#53  Edited By PinkieWinkie
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@Mbirdy88: ah, opinions. I don't care about yours and you don't care about mine. That's why we have things like metacritic. Therefore I win and you lose.

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#54  Edited By shadiezz2012
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well, that's good from Microsoft

TLOU is GOTG and can't wait to see what ND have for Ps4

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#56 killatwill15
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@uninspiredcup said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@uninspiredcup: lol no...not even close

Naughty Dog makes 2 shitty Tomb Raidery games. Valve revolutionizes digital distribution, indie gaming, free2play, early access. Creates a diverse 90+ metacritic game collection and practically invented all the scripted sequences games these days do badly (Naughty Dog included, obv).

Valve are better. You young console people need to learn some dam respect rather than flavor of the moment, it's sickening.

so valve is to blame for scripted sequences?

I hated that about episode 2, being confined to an area,

while a character I don't give a **** about,

barfs exposition at me

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#57 clr84651
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But Lems don't want ND making games for them because they say they flop like The Last of Us although it received 203 GotY awards. Lol!

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#58 Pikminmaniac
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If anything, Naughty Dog is special in that they've proven that good gameplay and Level design are irrelevant in gaining high critical reception. Being able to use a monstrous amount of cash to bolster production values is all you need.

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#59 John_Matherson
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@no-scope-AK47 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But Valves better.

LOL, Valve.

Try again if the release Half-Life 3.

Valve is the most overrated piece of shit dev in the business. The source engine sucks balls and Although I'm a fan of half life series, that only allows them to get away with so much...

You must have bumped your head and forgot what valve has done for pc gaming. People are still playing TF2 online if that is not greatness I don't know what is ??

I just went to steam and there are over 54 thousand people playing right now down from over 63k earlier.

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@John_Matherson said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But Valves better.

LOL, Valve.

Try again if the release Half-Life 3.

Valve is the most overrated piece of shit dev in the business. The source engine sucks balls and Although I'm a fan of half life series, that only allows them to get away with so much...

Well, I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion, yours just seem to always be really stupid

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@no-scope-AK47 said:

@John_Matherson said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But Valves better.

LOL, Valve.

Try again if the release Half-Life 3.

Valve is the most overrated piece of shit dev in the business. The source engine sucks balls and Although I'm a fan of half life series, that only allows them to get away with so much...

You must have bumped your head and forgot what valve has done for pc gaming. People are still playing TF2 online if that is not greatness I don't know what is ??

The young console people play Call Of Duty every 12 months. They have no interest in Valves masterpiece (that is vastly superior to any Naughty Dog title).

LMAOOO When I saw how many notifications I had I figured it was hermits going nuts over what I said. I stand by it.

The source engine sucks balls and is greatly outplayed.

Half Life/Portals are good series and yes I do know what Valve did for gaming. I just don't like them anymore. Ever since L4D.

And no you can't say I'm a Cod fan...I'm CoD's arch enemy in this forum. Everyone knows that.

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#60 lostrib
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@John_Matherson said:

LMAOOO When I saw how many notifications I had I figured it was hermits going nuts over what I said. I stand by it.

The source engine sucks balls and is greatly outplayed.

Half Life/Portals are good series and yes I do know what Valve did for gaming. I just don't like them anymore. Ever since L4D.

And no you can't say I'm a Cod fan...I'm CoD's arch enemy in this forum. Everyone knows that.

Baddy

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#61 blackace
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@Suppaman100 said:

Lol even the chiefs of MS admit, playstation has the best exclusive games.

TLHBO

Inb4 butthurt lemmings

I don't think he said that at all. He's talking about one company. There are other companies who have made great games just like Naughty Dog. Bioware is one of them. Their track record is just as great if not greater.

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#62 speedfog
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To all the little system wars kiddies here. (cowwsss)

ND is indeed a good studio. They make very good games.

The problem is that they went the wrong way with their games.

From having excellent artstyle, very unique gameplay with excellent controlls to boring shallow gameplay with stories that is worse then a budget movie. (Okay TLOU had a decent story. But still it wasn't spectecular)

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#63 BlbecekBobecek
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@PannicAtack said:

I wonder if people will ever realize that apart from production values and presentation, ND isn't that special.

This statement might have been a subject of discussion before TLOU was released, since then it is just false.

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#64 senses_fail_06
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@uninspiredcup said:

But Valves better.

Too bad they don't develop games anymore.

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#65  Edited By PannicAtack
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@BlbecekBobecek said:

@PannicAtack said:

I wonder if people will ever realize that apart from production values and presentation, ND isn't that special.

This statement might have been a subject of discussion before TLOU was released, since then it is just false.

TLOU doesn't retroactively make Uncharted 1's puzzles make sense. Or its controls not ass. It also doesn't mean that Uncharted 2 has any kind of staying power.

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#66  Edited By Gue1
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@V3rciS said:

Even MS respects "Godly Dog". One of the smartest moves Sony ever did to invest in this studio.

by the time they bought ND they didn't have much of a record but that the studio evolved to become what it is today from Crash to Jak to Unchartd & TLOU it was more luck on Sony's part.

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#67 betamaxx83
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A lot of ass kissing by MilkingSoft. Haha pathetic. I wish I could believe them, but we all know how consumer friendly, and the intense milkage they do to it's user base. More like damage control.

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#68 Gue1
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@Pikminmaniac said:

If anything, Naughty Dog is special in that they've proven that good gameplay and Level design are irrelevant in gaining high critical reception. Being able to use a monstrous amount of cash to bolster production values is all you need.

if anything what it proves is that you have no idea what you're talking about based on the stuff you write.

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#70 shadiezz2012
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@Gue1 said:

@Pikminmaniac said:

If anything, Naughty Dog is special in that they've proven that good gameplay and Level design are irrelevant in gaining high critical reception. Being able to use a monstrous amount of cash to bolster production values is all you need.

if anything what it proves is that you have no idea what you're talking about based on the stuff you write.

and he didn't even play TLOU yet

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#71  Edited By DarkLink77
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@WadeFan said:

One of the best studios in the business. 2 games in Meta's top 5.

I really wish people would stop spreading this lie.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all?view=condensed&sort=desc

They barely crack the top twenty.

That said, they're easily the best studio Sony has, with the possible exception of Team Ico.

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#72 DarkLink77
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@PinkieWinkie said:

@Mbirdy88: ah, opinions. I don't care about yours and you don't care about mine. That's why we have things like metacritic. Therefore I win and you lose.

Wrong. No Naughty Dog game has ever outscored half-Life 2. Just sayin'.

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#73  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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@FreedomFreeLife: I agree. Naughty Dog has come a long way since its 3DO days.

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#74 Evo_nine
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yep, Just like the cows are "special people"

lol

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#75  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@PinkieWinkie said:

@Mbirdy88: ah, opinions. I don't care about yours and you don't care about mine. That's why we have things like metacritic. Therefore I win and you lose.

Yea ... I'l take the 600-700k Peak concurrent players, large e-sport tournaments and high streaming views, over some ****** critic reviews of games they play through once and don't touch again just because they have a salary and limited time as a measure of "Quality and Player Satisfaction" thanks....

and as pointed out, HL2 still higher... all 3 counter-strikes are still largely played, TF2 peaks at 100k concurrent... whats uncharted's MP at?less than 10k since forever... because its Sh*t.... same as last of us, shame that never makes it into the reviews though.

ALL of Valve's Multiplayer games are still highly played after many MANY years.

Nobody will give a f*ck about Uncharted or Last of Us... only their equally shallow PS4 inevitable milkage sequals with the same below-genre-standard Shooter mechanics, but its ok, because they are so preeetyyy....

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#76  Edited By blackace
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@Gue1 said:

@Pikminmaniac said:

If anything, Naughty Dog is special in that they've proven that good gameplay and Level design are irrelevant in gaining high critical reception. Being able to use a monstrous amount of cash to bolster production values is all you need.

if anything what it proves is that you have no idea what you're talking about based on the stuff you write.

Pretty much 95% of the people on here don't know what they are talking about. What else is new?

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#77 Jankarcop
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@uninspiredcup said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@uninspiredcup: lol no...not even close

Naughty Dog makes 2 shitty Tomb Raidery games. Valve revolutionizes digital distribution, indie gaming, free2play, early access. Creates a diverse 90+ metacritic game collection and practically invented all the scripted sequences games these days do badly (Naughty Dog included, obv).

Valve are better. You young console people need to learn some dam respect rather than flavor of the moment, it's sickening.

Amen

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"Microsoft was not aware of individual contracts Machinima had with their content providers as part of this promotion and we didn’t provide feedback on any of the videos. We have asked Machinima to not post any additional Xbox One content as part of this media buy and we have asked them to add disclaimers to the videos that were part of this program indicating they were part of paid advertising." they haven't done anything illegal yet. Or is it guilty until proven innocent now?

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#79 X_CAPCOM_X
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@FreedomFreeLife said:

@uninspiredcup said:

But Valves better.

yeah

Yeah.. they were. This is 2014 now, so no.

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#80 PannicAtack
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@MBirdy88 said:

ALL of Valve's Multiplayer games are still highly played after many MANY years.

Except for Day of Defeat: Source. Only a handful of active servers on that one.

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#81 edwardecl
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Is he looking to jump ship to Sony or something? Why would you even come out praising your competition like that. They are saying go buy a PS3/PS4 if you want awesome exclusives that only Naughty Dog can provide.

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#82  Edited By lamprey263
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bwahahaha, none of you can read between the lines!

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#83 Zophar87
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@freedomfreak said:

Yes. These companies are not fanboys. They can acknowledge a good studio, or game when they see it.

Unlike the drones that support them.

Post of the year.

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#84 zeeshanhaider
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Yup, they are special because they make movies not games while being a game studio. I would say extremely special.

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#85  Edited By Zaibach
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ND are currently the best Devs currently working in the business, I do feel that its a shame that they are exclusive to one singular platform; then I look at what MS did to RARE and Bungie and what Activision did to IW and what EA are currently doing to...EVERYONE maybe exclusivity is a good thing in this case.

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#86 l34052
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@no-scope-AK47 said:

Translation we wish we had invested in them damn you Sony.

This.

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#87 edwardecl
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But without them being exclusive to the PS3 the games would not have been as good. So there are times when exclusives are good because they are exclusive. You have to remember Naughty Dog not only make a game but they makes bits of the PS3/4 firmware and graphics libraries and tools used in every game (on the PS4 at least)

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#88 no-scope-AK47
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@edwardecl said:

But without them being exclusive to the PS3 the games would not have been as good. So there are times when exclusives are good because they are exclusive. You have to remember Naughty Dog not only make a game but they makes bits of the PS3/4 firmware and graphics libraries and tools used in every game (on the PS4 at least)

ND does seem to understand hardware better than other devs faster. You can see it in the games their graphics are the best on console. I can only imagine what is going to happen on their ps4 games. Last gen ND had weaker hardware that was harder to understand than quantum physics. On the ps4 ND should actually get pc style graphics as they will actually max out the hardware.

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#89  Edited By Suppaman100
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@Evo_nine said:

yep, Just like the cows are "special people"

lol

Stop crying now.

In other news: The TR PS4 edition runs at 60 fps, the Xbone version at 30 fps.

LOL

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#90  Edited By BlbecekBobecek
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@PannicAtack said:

@BlbecekBobecek said:

@PannicAtack said:

I wonder if people will ever realize that apart from production values and presentation, ND isn't that special.

This statement might have been a subject of discussion before TLOU was released, since then it is just false.

TLOU doesn't retroactively make Uncharted 1's puzzles make sense. Or its controls not ass. It also doesn't mean that Uncharted 2 has any kind of staying power.

TLOU does make ND a special developer though, and that was my point.

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#91 StriateEnd
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@uninspiredcup said:

@PinkieWinkie said:

@uninspiredcup: lol no...not even close

Naughty Dog makes 2 shitty Tomb Raidery games. Valve revolutionizes digital distribution, indie gaming, free2play, early access. Creates a diverse 90+ metacritic game collection and practically invented all the scripted sequences games these days do badly (Naughty Dog included, obv).

Valve are better. You young console people need to learn some dam respect rather than flavor of the moment, it's sickening.

Mfw, you are such an idiot. Did you start gaming last gen? But wait, ND made four games last gen....

Yup, you're just fucking dumb. Give PC gamers a bad name.

And before you come at me with more bullshit, I actually agree with your main point that Valve are better devs. Why must you sprinkle your main argument with a giant portion of retard?

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#92  Edited By clr84651
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TC why did you make this topic? You said The Last of US looked like crap which is done by ND & is completely false.

You have completely lost your mind!

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#93 g0ddyX
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Man enough to admit it and appreciate the competition and a credit to who deserve it.
Take a hint Reggie and others.

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#94 osan0
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uh oh...just how secure is NDs partnership with sony? do sony own them or is it more of a "here is some money...go makes games for our platforms" thing?

if its the latter then that could preclude an attempted buyout from MS.

...i am reading to much into this i think :P.

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I read somewhere that a normal employee at ND could be a lead in another company. XD Sick!

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#97 edwardecl
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Naughty Dog is owned by Sony since 2001.

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@osan0 said:

uh oh...just how secure is NDs partnership with sony? do sony own them or is it more of a "here is some money...go makes games for our platforms" thing?

if its the latter then that could preclude an attempted buyout from MS.

...i am reading to much into this i think :P.

Sony owns ND, they won't sell the chicken of the golden eggs

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#100  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@StriateEnd said:

, I actually agree with your main point that Valve are better devs.

Good, it makes right.