Microsoft acknowledges Kinect could spy on you but would challenge gov't orders

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#1 DrTrafalgarLaw
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Microsoft's been in the news a fair bit lately on the strength of its supposed collaboration with the US National Security Agency - a Guardian report alleges that the latter is able to gather user data via Skype, Outlook and Hotmail with Microsoft's consent. The company has now released a formal statement on the matter, denying much of the report and calling on the US government to allow it "to share publicly more complete information about how we handle national security requests for customer information".

Microsoft has also rejected claims that it will allow the NSA to gather data via the Xbox One's Kinect sensor, which is required for the console to run. "Absent a new law, we don't believe the government has the legal authority to compel us or any other company that makes products with cameras and microphones to start collecting voice and video data," reads a comment mailed to the Verge. "And we'd aggressively challenge in court any attempts to try and force us to do so."

Link: Xbox dOne

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#2 -Snooze-
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So could your phone. This is boring.

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sorry cows, time to find another weak argument to cry about.
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#4 mems_1224
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So could your phone. This is boring.

-Snooze-
or computer
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#5 meetroid8
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So could your phone. This is boring.

-Snooze-
So could your mom.
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#6 timbers_WSU
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Actually your link shows Microsoft is actually fighting the Government to not let them spy on you. You owned yourself nimrod.

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#7 DrTrafalgarLaw
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Actually your link shows Microsoft is actually fighting the Government to not let them spy on you. You owned yourself nimrod.

timbers_WSU
Then why did they not fight back in 2007? If uncle sam orders it, you can do jack shit.
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#8 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

So could your phone. This is boring.

meetroid8

So could your mom.

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#9 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Actually your link shows Microsoft is actually fighting the Government to not let them spy on you. You owned yourself nimrod.

DrTrafalgarLaw
Then why did they not fight back in 2007? If uncle sam orders it, you can do jack shit.

...then the ps4 can be used to spy as well...so there goes your argument.
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#10 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Actually your link shows Microsoft is actually fighting the Government to not let them spy on you. You owned yourself nimrod.

DrTrafalgarLaw
Then why did they not fight back in 2007? If uncle sam orders it, you can do jack shit.

You really need to give up on this "Create a thread" thing you try to do. You are obviously not very good at it.
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"Absent a new law, we don't believe the government has the legal authority to compel us or any other company that makes products with cameras and microphones to start collecting voice and video data," reads a comment mailed to the Verge. "And we'd aggressively challenge in court any attempts to try and force us to do so."

DrTrafalgarLaw

good.

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#12 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Actually your link shows Microsoft is actually fighting the Government to not let them spy on you. You owned yourself nimrod.

WilliamRLBaker
Then why did they not fight back in 2007? If uncle sam orders it, you can do jack shit.

...then the ps4 can be used to spy as well...so there goes your argument.

Playstation Eye is not mandatory, Kinect is.
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#13 kenmid
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The title should say this like the article saids.

Microsoft will "aggressively challenge" any government attempt to spy through Kinect

and not make up your own.

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#14 crimsonman1245
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This thread will be at least 10 pages.

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#15 DrTrafalgarLaw
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The title should say this like the article saids.

Microsoft will "aggressively challenge" any government attempt to spy through Kinect

and not make up your own.

kenmid
Make your own thread. I can pick whatever title I want.
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Then why did they not fight back in 2007? If uncle sam orders it, you can do jack shit.

...then the ps4 can be used to spy as well...so there goes your argument.

Playstation Eye is not mandatory, Kinect is.

Doesnt matter if it is mandatory or not, anything that is connected to the internet................or that is connected to something that is connected to the internet..............can be hacked and used as a spy tool.
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#17 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="kenmid"]

The title should say this like the article saids.

Microsoft will "aggressively challenge" any government attempt to spy through Kinect

and not make up your own.

DrTrafalgarLaw
Make your own thread. I can pick whatever title I want.

I suggest this: Another shit thread by DrTrafalgarLaw. Avoid like herpes.
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#18 Bigboi500
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thread backfire

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#19 crimsonman1245
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....Just let people turn the Kinect off and people wont have anything to be outraged about Microsoft, its so simple..

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Wow just wow! You mor......oh wait theres no name calling or the mods will get me. You people actually think the government is going to spy on you through a freakin video game system?! When youre done playing just unplug it if youre really that paranoid, PROBLEM SOLVED!

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#21 navyguy21
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....Just let people turn the Kinect off and people wont have anything to be outraged about Microsoft, its so simple..

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....you can turn it off.....
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Then why did they not fight back in 2007? If uncle sam orders it, you can do jack shit.

...then the ps4 can be used to spy as well...so there goes your argument.

Playstation Eye is not mandatory, Kinect is.

PS4 connects to the internet, and ships with a mic ...
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Wow just wow! You mor......oh wait theres no name calling or the mods will get me. You people actually think the government is going to spy on you through a freakin video game system?! When youre done playing just unplug it if youre really that paranoid, PROBLEM SOLVED!

JuanGrande386

a device millions could be purchasing and installing it in their home...with a full fledged camera and microphone, even Infrared recording capabilities and tracking of extremities?

FVCKING GOLDMINE for both the nsa and hackers.

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[QUOTE="kenmid"]

The title should say this like the article saids.

Microsoft will "aggressively challenge" any government attempt to spy through Kinect

and not make up your own.

DrTrafalgarLaw

Make your own thread. I can pick whatever title I want.

you don't think it's somewhat misleading considering what the article is really about?

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#25 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="kenmid"]

The title should say this like the article saids.

Microsoft will "aggressively challenge" any government attempt to spy through Kinect

and not make up your own.

CaseyWegner

Make your own thread. I can pick whatever title I want.

you don't think it's somewhat misleading considering what the article is really about?

read between the lines. Them mentioning they'd challenge (note: not refuse) such a thing implies that it could come to court and thus recording is possible and they'd fight it in such a case.
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#26 Shewgenja
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Go figure, it's the Amurr'can console that pisses all over gamers and their liberties.

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#27 Eddie-Vedder
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Kind of like they did before right? OH WAIT :lol: :lol: :lol: 

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#28 FoxbatAlpha
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[QUOTE="kenmid"]

The title should say this like the article saids.

Microsoft will "aggressively challenge" any government attempt to spy through Kinect

and not make up your own.

DrTrafalgarLaw
Make your own thread. I can pick whatever title I want.

No offense but your title sux.
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Kind of like they did before right? OH WAIT :lol: :lol: :lol: 

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#30 Shewgenja
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Sorry to say, but, all they are truly doing is admitting that they are collecting information that a law enforcement agency WOULD want to get their hands on.

 

So, it all boils down to two questions:

1.How much do you trust Microsoft?

2.How much do you trust the US Government?

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#31 NEWMAHAY
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didn't really put up a fight with Skype
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"We think government cannot make us spy, and we will fight them..." *turns over everything*  LOL MS jerking xbox fan around and around. What is new?
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#33 strawhatlupi
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The cloud will be used to process intelligence data. thats why the original plan is "always online". Kinect is more than what phones can do. it is capable for realtime behavioral biometric profiling down to your heat signature.
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#34 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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This thread will be at least 10 pages.

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this guy has a boner for microsoft and xbox one..that happens when you're a basement dweller 24/7 in here :cool: sad life indeed.
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this guy has a boner for microsoft and xbox one..that happens when you're a basement dweller 24/7 in here :cool: sad life indeed.Tessellation
What is Mr-Kutaragi's excuse? He hasn't been here long and too me is is by far the most butthurt Cow in this forum. Luckily I ignore him because I can't tell what the Hell he is trying to say most of the time.
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]this guy has a boner for microsoft and xbox one..that happens when you're a basement dweller 24/7 in here :cool: sad life indeed.timbers_WSU
What is Mr-Kutaragi's excuse? He hasn't been here long and too me is is by far the most butthurt Cow in this forum. Luckily I ignore him because I can't tell what the Hell he is trying to say most of the time.

You ignore because so much butthurt when I own you. :cool:
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#38 Aidenfury19
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If there is one company I trust to protect my privacy it sure isn't Microsoft. That company's name does start with an M though.

[spoiler] It's Mozilla Corporation [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Actually your link shows Microsoft is actually fighting the Government to not let them spy on you. You owned yourself nimrod.

WilliamRLBaker

Then why did they not fight back in 2007? If uncle sam orders it, you can do jack shit.

...then the ps4 can be used to spy as well...so there goes your argument.

The simple fact is, we don't have any real privacy anymore.  The kinect is a small part of a much bigger problem 

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I other news, it's hot in NYC. 

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#41 CanYouDiglt
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I really hate all this since the Xbox One in many ways is the better console but I do not feel comfortable with this. It makes me not look forward to next gen since PS4 is just a PS3 with upgraded hardware and the X1 has all these data collecting fears.
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#42 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Then why did they not fight back in 2007? If uncle sam orders it, you can do jack shit.

...then the ps4 can be used to spy as well...so there goes your argument.

Playstation Eye is not mandatory, Kinect is.

doesnt matter your words alone. "if uncle sam orders it you cant do jack shit" so anyone that owns a ps copy can be spied upon.
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] ...then the ps4 can be used to spy as well...so there goes your argument.

Playstation Eye is not mandatory, Kinect is.

doesnt matter your words alone. "if uncle sam orders it you cant do jack shit" so anyone that owns a ps copy can be spied upon.

they cannot order to buy pseye if own ps4. If you want xbone, you have to buy with kinect eye pack in because daddy MS demands.
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#44 Riverwolf007
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of course it could but what i think would put the sony dudes fears of the fast approaching orwellian nightmare of nineteen eighty four-ish proportions to rest is to remind them that nobody cares that they are jackin it to anime.

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#45 Krelian-co
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yeah we all know microsoft and nsa are not best buddies with microsoft giving them all the info they want :roll:

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Make your own thread. I can pick whatever title I want.DrTrafalgarLaw

you don't think it's somewhat misleading considering what the article is really about?

read between the lines. Them mentioning they'd challenge (note: not refuse) such a thing implies that it could come to court and thus recording is possible and they'd fight it in such a case.

i see you changed it. cool.

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If MS had no intention on spying then they wouldn't be keeping records of all skype conversations and emails and they wouldn't have signed with the NSA. MS can say whatever they want, they've have lied many times before.. the facts speak for themselves.
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i want chinese food.

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#49 DrTrafalgarLaw
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i want chinese food.

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Kinect is keeping tabs on you, you commie!
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#50 deactivated-5c03000d4b1b4
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isn't microsoft part of the nsa?