Max Payne 3's sales flop hard! Strategy Informer

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#1 biggest_loser
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"Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter revealed some startling news from the NPD on his Twitter feed: Max Payne 3 did less than half of LA Noire's launch business in the same period of time.

Pachtertweeted,"Without divulging too much NPD goodness, I can tell you that Max Payne 3 sales were less than 50% of L.A. Noire's. 8 years in development!"

This is devastating for Take 2 Interactive, which sunk in a ton of cash into reviving the IP. It could be 8 years was too long between games even for the Max Payne property."

Source:http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/18613/pachter-max-payne-3-did-less-than-50-sales-than-la-noire

Why did people not buy this game on consoles? :(

The death of a once great IP :(

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#2 waltefmoney
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Well it's Michael Pachter so no one will take this seriously. He's the VGChartz of people.

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#3 Crazyguy105
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Its becoming quite obvious how many people out there are actually willing to buy something that doens't have CoD or army men plastered all over the cover. That number isn't very high.

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#4 BPoole96
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That's sad to hear. I'll be buying the PC version soon

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#5 Bigboi500
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Why did people not buy this game on consoles? :(

biggest_loser

I didn't buy it because I haven't played the first two. I also didn't see any advertisements for it except in the video game store.

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#6 Vari3ty
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Well I bought both a 360 and PS3 copy. Don't blame me. Too bad, I thought it sold 3 million in the first week?

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#7 wiistation360
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i really want max payne 3 to do very we;;
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#8 Pikachu69er
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good, now make gta

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#9 JohnnyCageMK
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The lack of hype and advertising killed it. The game is amazing but you would think after 8 years of development R* would have advertised the hell outta this game.
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#10 Rocker6
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Very sad to hear it,from everything I've seen,it's a great game,it deserves better...

Will be picking up the PC version in a few days...

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#11 campzor
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good, now make gta

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lol, sorta this ^
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#12 Pikachu69er
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The lack of hype and advertising killed it. The game is amazing but you would think after 8 years of development R* would have advertised the hell outta this game. JohnnyCageMK

there to busy making the surperior 1 disk version of gta 5 on ps3

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#13 hippiesanta
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Blame it on Marky Mark
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#14 biggest_loser
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The lack of hype and advertising killed it. The game is amazing but you would think after 8 years of development R* would have advertised the hell outta this game. JohnnyCageMK
http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/07/max-payne-3-to-be-rockstars-biggest-and-boldest-marketing-effort-thus-far/
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#15 Vari3ty
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Honestly I can't see Take-Two being overly worried, they still have a lot of great franchises and GTA V is the next game in Rockstar's lineup that should do very well.

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#16 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

Why did people not buy this game on consoles? :(

Bigboi500

I didn't buy it because I haven't played the first two. I also didn't see any advertisements for it except in the video game store.

Are you kidding me? Its been all over gamespot, imdb.
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#17 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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I thought it did well?

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#18 Inconsistancy
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I'll probably buy it once it's cheap as hell on steam :D! No demo!
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#19 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

Why did people not buy this game on consoles? :(

biggest_loser

I didn't buy it because I haven't played the first two. I also didn't see any advertisements for it except in the video game store.

Are you kidding me? Its been all over gamespot, imdb.

I have ad block so I don't see adds. I guess a lot of people, including myself, know next to nothing about the game.

As another poster pointed out, Mark Walburg might have had a negative effect on the series because even I saw advertisements for the campy movie spin-off.

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#20 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]I didn't buy it because I haven't played the first two. I also didn't see any advertisements for it except in the video game store.

Bigboi500

Are you kidding me? Its been all over gamespot, imdb.

I have ad block so I don't see adds. I guess a lot of people, including myself, know next to nothing about the game.

As another poster pointed out, Mark Walburg might have had a negative effect on the series because even I saw advertisements for the campy movie spin-off.

Camp is not the right word to describe that movie.
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#21 CanYouDiglt
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It is a shame since it is a really great game. I got my copy on Steam.
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#22 megaspiderweb09
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I wanted to get the game because of its overal polish and i mean, its a Rockstar game. However the game itself isnt endearing, what you do basicly 90% is hold a gun and shoot, that id asume gets monotonous and boring after a while

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#23 hrt_rulz01
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Its becoming quite obvious how many people out there are actually willing to buy something that doens't have CoD or army men plastered all over the cover. That number isn't very high.

Crazyguy105
Yeah, seems that way. Very sad.
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#24 tenaka2
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Why did people not buy this game on consoles? :(

biggest_loser

Its not COD or Halo, console casuals have no idea what max payne is.

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#25 R4gn4r0k
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So are those NPD sales numbers ?

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#26 Cranler
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The lack of hype and advertising killed it. The game is amazing but you would think after 8 years of development R* would have advertised the hell outta this game. JohnnyCageMK
Who said it took 8 years of development time? Ever stop to think the game was on Rockstars backburner for awhile? A game like GTA 4 takes A LOT more development time than a linear shooter.
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#27 Goyoshi12
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Dang, it seems like such a great game and deserves better numbers. :(

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#28 WarTornRuston
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I rented it from Redbox and almost got it beat. So I was not gonna spend $60 on it. I don't really care about the multiplayer in it but I hear it is full of bugs and cheaters anyway. Game was great but I liked the first one better. Not something I would have in my collection to be honest....

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#30 WarTornRuston
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

Why did people not buy this game on consoles? :(

sts106mat

Its not COD or Halo, console casuals have no idea what max payne is.

i bought the game, found it a dull shooting gallery, took it back and got Batman Arkham City again and a shed load of MS points for the robin / nightwing / harley DLC and still have some left for the dawnguard DLC and new maps for Birds of Steel. all three of those games are far more enjoyable than max borefest 3.

He is not worth one letter. He has never added anything to a topic. He just trolls and pretends he is special in some way because he does not like what the majority does. Max Payne on the XBOX was a much better game then Max Payne 3. This one was a beautiful mess......worth the rental but not much more.
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#32 dommeus
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If I had a job and wasn't a poor ass student then I totally would have bought it.

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#33 FrozenLiquid
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I'm sure it's selling a respectable amount, but how the f*ck is it half as much as that dumbass L.A Noire?
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#34 NirdBerd
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Am I the only person who feels that if Rockstar never announced Grand Theft Auto V before Max Payne 3 was released, a lot more people would've bought MP3?

I remember everytime a new Max Payne 3 trailer was out people were just whining for GTA V.

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#35 nutcrackr
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Amazingly low considering the apparently huge advertising campaign for the game. Max Payne just seems to be a series that doesn't sell, the first two games deserved many more sales than they achieved.

They should have done an Epic and put GTA 5 beta code in the box or something.

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#36 biggest_loser
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It is a shame since it is a really great game. I got my copy on Steam.CanYouDiglt
So expensive on Steam. Like $89 (au) for a single player game padded with cutscenes and so-so MP! :(
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#38 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]It is a shame since it is a really great game. I got my copy on Steam.biggest_loser
So expensive on Steam. Like $89 (au) for a single player game padded with cutscenes and so-so MP! :(

Steam sucks for us down under. You might've known of this site, but here it's selling MP3 for AUD44. Australia still sucks and all, but yeah :P
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#39 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]I'm sure it's selling a respectable amount, but how the f*ck is it half as much as that dumbass L.A Noire?sts106mat
F*** knows, Rockstar need to stick to open world formula. RDR was awesome, GTA4 was at the time, good, though i got bored eventually i didn't appreciate the gritty story / atmosphere. If GTA5 is to be the same style, i might not get it day one. I hope they make it more like San Andreas in style.

I think they may have taken the GTA4 super serious criticisms to heart. The DLC was praised for being more fun than the main campaign. And they better take the Max Payne control scheme and plug it into GTA, because going back to old Rockstar games just shows how clunky they are, especially compared to the competition.
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#40 WarTornRuston
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Am I the only person who feels that if Rockstar never announced Grand Theft Auto V before Max Payne 3 was released, a lot more people would've bought MP3?

I remember everytime a new Max Payne 3 trailer was out people were just whining for GTA V.

NirdBerd
I think the main problem with Max Payne 3 is the writing. Not that the story sucks but anyone who has played a Grand Theft Auto game knows exactly how Max Payne 3 was gonna be after the first 30 minutes. You could basically watch the game and see a character and no exactly how the topic or conversation was gonna play out. Also- Even though the shooting mechanics was good in Max Payne 3 it was still to glitchy. Sometimes he would not go into cover, sometimes one bullet to the chest would kill someone and other times it would take 10 shots. Max would dive with one gun then get up with another gun, sometimes the game refused to let me switch weapons...... I just think Rockstar's games are starting to blend in a little to much with the characters personalities and stereotypes. It's just old.
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#41 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="NirdBerd"]

Am I the only person who feels that if Rockstar never announced Grand Theft Auto V before Max Payne 3 was released, a lot more people would've bought MP3?

I remember everytime a new Max Payne 3 trailer was out people were just whining for GTA V.

WarTornRuston
I think the main problem with Max Payne 3 is the writing. Not that the story sucks but anyone who has played a Grand Theft Auto game knows exactly how Max Payne 3 was gonna be after the first 30 minutes. You could basically watch the game and see a character and no exactly how the topic or conversation was gonna play out. Also- Even though the shooting mechanics was good in Max Payne 3 it was still to glitchy. Sometimes he would not go into cover, sometimes one bullet to the chest would kill someone and other times it would take 10 shots. Max would dive with one gun then get up with another gun, sometimes the game refused to let me switch weapons...... I just think Rockstar's games are starting to blend in a little to much with the characters personalities and stereotypes. It's just old.

I had those issues too, until I played the game again. I admittedly was playing it wrong, at least for conquering the Euphoria and Bullet middleware engines. Now I feel like a freakin' legend conquering the game on hard and with free aim. Only issue that remains is the cover system, but then again the only cover system that was ever perfected was in Gears of War.
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#42 soulitane
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]It is a shame since it is a really great game. I got my copy on Steam.FrozenLiquid
So expensive on Steam. Like $89 (au) for a single player game padded with cutscenes and so-so MP! :(

Steam sucks for us down under. You might've known of this site, but here it's selling MP3 for AUD44. Australia still sucks and all, but yeah :P

Generally buy all my games off there (well the NZ one) these days, unless it's off steam or some other place can miraculously beat its pricing.
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#43 princeofshapeir
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If this is true, what a shame. Game of the year so far, by far, and possibly the best third-person shooter this gen.
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#44 skrat_01
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Possibly just a bad time for it to hit the shelves in terms of retail.
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#45 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"] So expensive on Steam. Like $89 (au) for a single player game padded with cutscenes and so-so MP! :(

Steam sucks for us down under. You might've known of this site, but here it's selling MP3 for AUD44. Australia still sucks and all, but yeah :P

Generally buy all my games off there (well the NZ one) these days, unless it's off steam or some other place can miraculously beat its pricing.

Hard. I wonder how MightyApe does since they get smashed by NZGameshop.com lol
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#46 SPYDER0416
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Not entirely confirmed, but I hope this isn't true. LA Noire sold well but still fell under "super mega hit" standards.

Max Payne 3 is the best title I've played yet this year, and if this is true I'd blame Rockstar's lack of marketing. They really should have had some more TV spots and ads for it.

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#47 soulitane
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"] Steam sucks for us down under. You might've known of this site, but here it's selling MP3 for AUD44. Australia still sucks and all, but yeah :P

Generally buy all my games off there (well the NZ one) these days, unless it's off steam or some other place can miraculously beat its pricing.

Hard. I wonder how MightyApe does since they get smashed by NZGameshop.com lol

Try and compensate by saying they are having a sale every day on the exact same items?
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#48 FrozenLiquid
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Not entirely confirmed, but I hope this isn't true. LA Noire sold well but still fell under "super mega hit" standards.

Max Payne 3 is the best title I've played yet this year, and if this is true I'd blame Rockstar's lack of marketing. They really should have had some more TV spots and ads for it.

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The Max Payne 3 ad campaign is huge. If I'm not mistaken it's their biggest ad campaign yet.
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#49 FrozenLiquid
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Try and compensate by saying they are having a sale every day on the exact same items? soulitane

did not know that lol. Never even browse there anymore.

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#50 JohnnyCageMK
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Not entirely confirmed, but I hope this isn't true. LA Noire sold well but still fell under "super mega hit" standards.

Max Payne 3 is the best title I've played yet this year, and if this is true I'd blame Rockstar's lack of marketing. They really should have had some more TV spots and ads for it.

FrozenLiquid
The Max Payne 3 ad campaign is huge. If I'm not mistaken it's their biggest ad campaign yet.

I only saw one Max Payne 3 commercial but they showed Diablo 3 and Ghost Recon commercials all the time.