Likely PS4 will sell over 120 million units Lifetime?

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Poll Likely PS4 will sell over 120 million units Lifetime? (44 votes)

Yes 57%
No 43%

PS3 sold a whopping 80 million but compared to ps4 stats...

  • PS4 sold 4x what the PS3 sold at launch
  • Launched at 200 dollars cheaper than PS3
  • Has plethora of game support from the get-go

Xbox sold 80 million+ too and obviously some xbox buyers will switch to the PS4 where as it's likely little Playstaion buyers will switch to the Xbox One if they were able to stay with Sony this generation

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#1 inggrish
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No, I reckon 100 million over it's lifetime. 120 is probably pushing it, especially when there is not as much marketshare to fight over anymore.

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#2 FoxbatAlpha
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Launch games got poor scores, The console is electrocuting people. Sure 120 million seems like a good goal. lulz.

1. Blue lights of Death. Could not turn PS4 on. No any image on TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW-eDs9kxeo

2. Red Line Of Death (RLOD). PS4 constantly overheats and shuts down or freezes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpvitvoDSWk

3. White line of Death (WLOD). HDD problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKB80wvqow

4. Defective controller. Thumbstick rubber peels off & R1 button gets stuck - R1 button gets stuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSk8GPldOSM

- PS4 Controller R1 Button Defective after only 10 hours of play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzvyIMmvPzw

5. Wobbles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1cZjmx7qfM

6. Strange sound when inserting disc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tlHzTPksMI

7. HDMI cable problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJfqGbQYXQ

8. PS4 is very loud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2T_p05WA_4

9. Electroshocks its owner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD9_kTxjAeA

10. Bad assembly and cheap plastic. Someone could not find its power button because it was missed.

11. Defective disc drive. Sometimes can't play disc based games or movies.

12. The screen is glitchy.

13. Battery in controller dies in less than 6 hours of gameplay.

Other problems and complains:

- Bluray loads painfully slow. - Blu-ray will not output digital sound, neither will games. But the dashboard will? - Blu-ray looks DVD quality and a little bit muddy. - Blue blinding light on controller, with no option to turn it off. - Constant game freezing - Poor interface for inviting friends to online games - Just plain poor interface - 3.5 hour initial set up.

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#3 Sweenix
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Launch games got poor scores, The console is electrocuting people. Sure 120 million seems like a good goal. lulz.

1. Blue lights of Death. Could not turn PS4 on. No any image on TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW-eDs9kxeo

2. Red Line Of Death (RLOD). PS4 constantly overheats and shuts down or freezes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpvitvoDSWk

3. White line of Death (WLOD). HDD problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKB80wvqow

4. Defective controller. Thumbstick rubber peels off & R1 button gets stuck - R1 button gets stuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSk8GPldOSM

- PS4 Controller R1 Button Defective after only 10 hours of play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzvyIMmvPzw

5. Wobbles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1cZjmx7qfM

6. Strange sound when inserting disc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tlHzTPksMI

7. HDMI cable problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJfqGbQYXQ

8. PS4 is very loud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2T_p05WA_4

9. Electroshocks its owner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD9_kTxjAeA

10. Bad assembly and cheap plastic. Someone could not find its power button because it was missed.

11. Defective disc drive. Sometimes can't play disc based games or movies.

12. The screen is glitchy.

13. Battery in controller dies in less than 6 hours of gameplay.

Other problems and complains:

- Bluray loads painfully slow. - Blu-ray will not output digital sound, neither will games. But the dashboard will? - Blu-ray looks DVD quality and a little bit muddy. - Blue blinding light on controller, with no option to turn it off. - Constant game freezing - Poor interface for inviting friends to online games - Just plain poor interface - 3.5 hour initial set up.

You posted the exact same thing that other user posted

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#4  Edited By JTH_22
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I'm going to say no but I do think it's POSSIBLE. I'm figuring maybe just a little north of 100 million.

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If the mods dont clean these trolls up system wars is going to be dead, they are copy/pasting that PS4 list in every thread.

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#6  Edited By APiranhaAteMyVa
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It's possible, but I think Xbone will be pretty close, so like 90-110 million for both. With the PS4 beating the Xbone by 10-20 million units.

There is no Wii console this time that is offering competition so they both have that market to try and capture too, that is where I think Microsoft will make up some of the numbers in the long run as they cater for casuals better with Kinect and the multimedia functionality.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Launch games got poor scores, The console is electrocuting people. Sure 120 million seems like a good goal. lulz.

1. Blue lights of Death. Could not turn PS4 on. No any image on TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW-eDs9kxeo

2. Red Line Of Death (RLOD). PS4 constantly overheats and shuts down or freezes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpvitvoDSWk

3. White line of Death (WLOD). HDD problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKB80wvqow

4. Defective controller. Thumbstick rubber peels off & R1 button gets stuck - R1 button gets stuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSk8GPldOSM

- PS4 Controller R1 Button Defective after only 10 hours of play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzvyIMmvPzw

5. Wobbles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1cZjmx7qfM

6. Strange sound when inserting disc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tlHzTPksMI

7. HDMI cable problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJfqGbQYXQ

8. PS4 is very loud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2T_p05WA_4

9. Electroshocks its owner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD9_kTxjAeA

10. Bad assembly and cheap plastic. Someone could not find its power button because it was missed.

11. Defective disc drive. Sometimes can't play disc based games or movies.

12. The screen is glitchy.

13. Battery in controller dies in less than 6 hours of gameplay.

Other problems and complains:

- Bluray loads painfully slow. - Blu-ray will not output digital sound, neither will games. But the dashboard will? - Blu-ray looks DVD quality and a little bit muddy. - Blue blinding light on controller, with no option to turn it off. - Constant game freezing - Poor interface for inviting friends to online games - Just plain poor interface - 3.5 hour initial set up.

And that's just at launch! ROFL!

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#9  Edited By tonitorsi
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Its got a chance of solidly hitting 100 milli considering Sony's got the strongest 1st and 2nd party devs of the big 3, pumped up their marketing prowess, and are starting it off good from a price standpoint.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Launch games got poor scores, The console is electrocuting people. Sure 120 million seems like a good goal. lulz.

1. Blue lights of Death. Could not turn PS4 on. No any image on TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW-eDs9kxeo

2. Red Line Of Death (RLOD). PS4 constantly overheats and shuts down or freezes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpvitvoDSWk

3. White line of Death (WLOD). HDD problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKB80wvqow

4. Defective controller. Thumbstick rubber peels off & R1 button gets stuck - R1 button gets stuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSk8GPldOSM

- PS4 Controller R1 Button Defective after only 10 hours of play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzvyIMmvPzw

5. Wobbles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1cZjmx7qfM

6. Strange sound when inserting disc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tlHzTPksMI

7. HDMI cable problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJfqGbQYXQ

8. PS4 is very loud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2T_p05WA_4

9. Electroshocks its owner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD9_kTxjAeA

10. Bad assembly and cheap plastic. Someone could not find its power button because it was missed.

11. Defective disc drive. Sometimes can't play disc based games or movies.

12. The screen is glitchy.

13. Battery in controller dies in less than 6 hours of gameplay.

Other problems and complains:

- Bluray loads painfully slow. - Blu-ray will not output digital sound, neither will games. But the dashboard will? - Blu-ray looks DVD quality and a little bit muddy. - Blue blinding light on controller, with no option to turn it off. - Constant game freezing - Poor interface for inviting friends to online games - Just plain poor interface - 3.5 hour initial set up.

Hopefully these problems work themselves out. With Sony's stellar track record and endless amounts of cash I am sure everyone will be taken care of.

@crimsonman1245 said:

If the mods dont clean these trolls up system wars is going to be dead, they are copy/pasting that PS4 list in every thread.

Sony Fan begging mods to defend them..............

What happened to SW, we need a new class of Cow.

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#11 Heil68
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1 million+ sold on launch day baby. Awwww yeahhhhhhh.

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#12 Spartan070
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It doesn't do anything revolutionary enough(be a cheap DVD player) to warrant those kinds of sales.

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@_Matt_ said:

No, I reckon 100 million over it's lifetime. 120 is probably pushing it, especially when there is not as much marketshare to fight over anymore.

marketshare? the market keeps getting bigger. the average age of a gamer is early 30s. gaming is no longer a niche hobby!

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#14 lhughey
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You are all misguided if you think the PS4 will run away with sells. Its going to be another close race between Sony and M$.

The gaming population is growing. There is a chance that both consoles will reach close to that milestone.

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@mrintro said:

@_Matt_ said:

No, I reckon 100 million over it's lifetime. 120 is probably pushing it, especially when there is not as much marketshare to fight over anymore.

marketshare? the market keeps getting bigger. the average age of a gamer is early 30s. gaming is no longer a niche hobby!

It wasn't a niche in 7th gen neither. What I mean is gaming is spreading out, mobiles are taking over casuals, and then there are more options than ever for gaming, we have Steamboxes, the 3 regular consoles, Shield, Ouya, and others.

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That foxalpha post just killed it

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possibly, it depends if the isues with the hardware are isolated cases, or if they are a big issue.

The PS4 is the better positioned console right now, so if failure rates are low, no overheating, and the like, then yeah I can see it reaching up there. especially if we see a 10 year cycle for all consoles this time.

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#18 Gue1
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probably more. The PS3's gonna sell 100 millions for sure and the PS4 will only sell much more than that.

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With NIN not pulling the same numbers as last GEN it might happen.

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#20  Edited By MGS2007
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You keep forgetting that china just removed their ban on consoles so the ps4 will easily sell over 120 million units.

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#21 Netret0120
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I will stick to 100mill lifetime sales.

I wouldn't be surprised if it passes that but just to be safe especially with Ipads/Tablets gaining ground

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It will probably reach 140 million

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#23 Murderstyle75
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The PS4 didnt launch at $200 cheaper. It launched at $100 cheaper.

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#24  Edited By Liquid_
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peo

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Launch games got poor scores, The console is electrocuting people. Sure 120 million seems like a good goal. lulz.

1. Blue lights of Death. Could not turn PS4 on. No any image on TV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW-eDs9kxeo

2. Red Line Of Death (RLOD). PS4 constantly overheats and shuts down or freezes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpvitvoDSWk

3. White line of Death (WLOD). HDD problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKB80wvqow

4. Defective controller. Thumbstick rubber peels off & R1 button gets stuck - R1 button gets stuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSk8GPldOSM

- PS4 Controller R1 Button Defective after only 10 hours of play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzvyIMmvPzw

5. Wobbles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1cZjmx7qfM

6. Strange sound when inserting disc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tlHzTPksMI

7. HDMI cable problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJfqGbQYXQ

8. PS4 is very loud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2T_p05WA_4

9. Electroshocks its owner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD9_kTxjAeA

10. Bad assembly and cheap plastic. Someone could not find its power button because it was missed.

11. Defective disc drive. Sometimes can't play disc based games or movies.

12. The screen is glitchy.

13. Battery in controller dies in less than 6 hours of gameplay.

Other problems and complains:

- Bluray loads painfully slow. - Blu-ray will not output digital sound, neither will games. But the dashboard will? - Blu-ray looks DVD quality and a little bit muddy. - Blue blinding light on controller, with no option to turn it off. - Constant game freezing - Poor interface for inviting friends to online games - Just plain poor interface - 3.5 hour initial set up.

i don't think you get it.

1 million ps4 units sold in 24 hours

took 2 months for 360 to sell that many

yet within those 2 months 360 had more problems than the ps4 does all together

more units = more cases

oh man, internet people with no logic

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#25 El_Garbanzo
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Easily. Wii u flopped, xbone will semi flop and ps4 will pick up the slack

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#26  Edited By lamprey263
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well, when PS2 dominated the Xbox and GameCube sales were like 20 million each, the Wii U is already shaping up to be a repeat of the GameCube, so if the X1 does just as bad then that's possible, but if not then they're going to have to share a larger chunk of the console gaming market with MS

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@Liquid_:

You are forgetting the reason the 360 sold less. It's called a launch shortage. The Xbox 360 was completely sold out for quite some time and as a result, the EBay prices were in the thousands. Many stores were reporting less than 10 units for the launch. A lot of people didnt even get their launch preorders until 2006. Even during Best Buys second launch. There were over 200 people standing in line at my Best Buy for many hours. Come morning, there were only 25 consoles to give. I was 6th in line. I think its safe to say that the Xbox 360 would have sold like that if only the units were available .

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@MGS2007 said:

You keep forgetting that china just removed their ban on consoles so the ps4 will easily sell over 120 million units.

Yep all 200 of those Chinese people making more than $50 a year only will be able to buy it. I don't think you know how things work over ther. Game King only broke 3 million, and that's adding all 3 (heard there were 4 but only played 3) of them

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#29  Edited By Liquid_
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@Murderstyle75 said:

@Liquid_:

You are forgetting the reason the 360 sold less. It's called a launch shortage. The Xbox 360 was completely sold out for quite some time and as a result, the EBay prices were in the thousands. Many stores were reporting less than 10 units for the launch. A lot of people didnt even get their launch preorders until 2006. Even during Best Buys second launch. There were over 200 people standing in line at my Best Buy for many hours. Come morning, there were only 25 consoles to give. I was 6th in line. I think its safe to say that the Xbox 360 would have sold like that if only the units were available .

that is exactly what I said?

did you even read my post?

i wasn't even trying to make a point that ps4 sold more in 24 hours.

let me break this down for you since you don't read/understand posts.

more units available to the public = more cases of things to go wrong

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#30 blackace
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I doubt it. It will probably sell about the same amount at the PS3, It won't get anywhere close to the 150+ million the PS2 sold.

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#31  Edited By I_can_haz
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So many angry lems in SW today. Yes OP it will sell 120 million or more. WiiU is out of the equation, Xbone is more expensive and is going to be dominated in Europe and Asia and no way MS is gonna sell a million in a day. SDC is assured.

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#32  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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No, Playstation now has stiff competition that attacks the exact same market. It's a matter of there not being enough of the gamers in the market.

I look at it like this, the X360 and PS3 both sold the same, 80m, but I see it as they have 50% of the same target market which consists of around 160m. The PS4 could sell a few million more then the X1 this gen but that's it. So it maybe 85m to 75m at the very best to Sony.

The days of Playstation consoles selling that much are over, when they did sell that much it was because they had no viable competition.

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#33  Edited By foxhound_fox
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You think you can predict 5+ years of performance based on a week of sample data? What kind of statistician are you?

Given the current market and the equalized performance of the 360, PS3 and Wii, I don't doubt that none of the now current gen consoles will get anywhere close to 100 million. The market is trending towards smartphones/tablets and PC games. Handhelds and consoles are a dying breed. I would be surprised if any of the new consoles make it past 50 million in 5 years.

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#34 Sword-Demon
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Depends on who takes the casual market.

PS1 got them 5th gen - over 100 million sold, PS2 got them 6th gen - over 150 million sold, Wii got them last gen - over 100 million sold

This gen, who knows who will get them.. The Wii U has a family friendly reputation as well as a price advantage; The XB1 has Kinect and multimedia capabilities; and the PS4 has a power advantage, while staying on the tried and true path for everything.

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#35 blackace
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@I_can_haz said:

So many angry lems in SW today. Yes OP it will sell 120 million or more. WiiU is out of the equation, Xbone is more expensive and is going to be dominated in Europe and Asia and no way MS is gonna sell a million in a day. SDC is assured.

Your crystal ball is broken and nothing is real in Fantasy Land. If the PS4 continues to have issues, no ones going to want to buy it anymore.