Japan, why do you guys rate it so highly?

Now, this is only my oppinion. But why does this forum repeatedly pay homage to Japan? Now I'm aware that Japan could possibly lay claim to being the birthground of modern gaming, and 2 of the companies in this generations war are Japanese, but things like Japanese sales figures seems to be the largest debate in this place. Japan is only the second largest consumer group in the world. America is the largest. Japan are notoriously loyal to Japanese products, whereas Europe and the US go for the product which suits trends rather than it's origin.

So I ask the question: Why do you rate Japan so highly? possibly to a higher degree than the USA market? 

just wondering about all this 'japan hates american products' thing, do they not love the ipod? obviously the 360s library simply
does not fit their needs its not just national loyalty is it? ps3 is hardly even selling there either.-SR388-

I think if there were a product made by the japanese with similar appeal to the ipod they'd shun the ipod straight away. 

i dont.....

probably becasue all of the games hailed from there first.

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just wondering about all this 'japan hates american products' thing, do they not love the ipod? obviously the 360s library simply
does not fit their needs its not just national loyalty is it? ps3 is hardly even selling there either.braydee1234

I think if there were a product made by the japanese with similar appeal to the ipod they'd shun the ipod straight away.

i thought sony make and sell their own mp3 player? ;) 

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just wondering about all this 'japan hates american products' thing, do they not love the ipod? obviously the 360s library simply
does not fit their needs its not just national loyalty is it? ps3 is hardly even selling there either.-SR388-

I think if there were a product made by the japanese with similar appeal to the ipod they'd shun the ipod straight away.

i thought sony make and sell their own mp3 player? ;)

dude have you seen how ugly that thing is? 

Now, this is only my oppinion. But why does this forum repeatedly pay homage to Japan? Now I'm aware that Japan could possibly lay claim to being the birthground of modern gaming, and 2 of the companies in this generations war are Japanese, but things like Japanese sales figures seems to be the largest debate in this place. Japan is only the second largest consumer group in the world. America is the largest. Japan are notoriously loyal to Japanese products, whereas Europe and the US go for the product which suits trends rather than it's origin.

So I ask the question: Why do you rate Japan so highly? possibly to a higher degree than the USA market?

braydee1234

Just to clarify, Europe is the largest consumer group.

Anyway, Japan was the savour of games. First consoles (before the crash) were based on the American market. The crash occured and games then became more Japan-based 

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Now, this is only my oppinion. But why does this forum repeatedly pay homage to Japan? Now I'm aware that Japan could possibly lay claim to being the birthground of modern gaming, and 2 of the companies in this generations war are Japanese, but things like Japanese sales figures seems to be the largest debate in this place. Japan is only the second largest consumer group in the world. America is the largest. Japan are notoriously loyal to Japanese products, whereas Europe and the US go for the product which suits trends rather than it's origin.

So I ask the question: Why do you rate Japan so highly? possibly to a higher degree than the USA market?

daqua_99

Just to clarify, Europe is the largest consumer group.

Anyway, Japan was the savour of games. First consoles (before the crash) were based on the American market. The crash occured and games then became more Japan-based

Ehh, I know Europe has a larger possible base, but America are far ahead of Europe in terms of hardware sales. 

Japan basically made gaming. The nes and genesis popularized it back then and it was still japanese companies that are keeping it popular today. alot of the gaming stuff is all made by japan. a few aren't made by japan but they aren't sucessful. the only one that suceeded is Microsoft, but they're just microsoft.

and games sell better outside of japan like the US because the US is alot bigger than Japan. the US is a large blob on the globe thats easil recognizeable but Japan is a tiny island in the sea. 

Japan basically made gaming. The nes and genesis popularized it back then and it was still japanese companies that are keeping it popular today. alot of the gaming stuff is all made by japan. a few aren't made by japan but they aren't sucessful. the only one that suceeded is Microsoft, but they're just microsoft.

and games sell better outside of japan like the US because the US is alot bigger than Japan. the US is a large blob on the globe thats easil recognizeable but Japan is a tiny island in the sea.

especensor

Surely this is why we should accept japan is the country that brought us gaming, but not the reason we need to look at their hardware and software sale? 

it's all about dating simulation and anime games there, wich IMO frankly suck or are preverted and still suckUtensilman

anime is just popular there. its just what people like. besides, not all anime themed games are bad. and what dating sims. they are only released on the PC, you never see them on consoles.

besides, anime games are no different than movie games. If a *** didn't know anything about the US and walked into a shop, wouldn't they think that Movie games are all the rage in the US? 

Japan basically made gaming. The nes and genesis popularized it back then and it was still japanese companies that are keeping it popular today. alot of the gaming stuff is all made by japan. a few aren't made by japan but they aren't sucessful. the only one that suceeded is Microsoft, but they're just microsoft.

and games sell better outside of japan like the US because the US is alot bigger than Japan. the US is a large blob on the globe thats easil recognizeable but Japan is a tiny island in the sea.

especensor

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just wondering about all this 'japan hates american products' thing, do they not love the ipod? obviously the 360s library simply
does not fit their needs its not just national loyalty is it? ps3 is hardly even selling there either.braydee1234

I think if there were a product made by the japanese with similar appeal to the ipod they'd shun the ipod straight away. 

sony MP3 walkman... But still I agree Japan are a very stubborn market place. We, in the west, have finally embraced JRPGs, but the FPS genre has no legs to stand on in Japan- But that's mainly due to the fact that Japanese life (much like we are turning into) is hard to escape and constantly connected- so the further detatched from reality these games are, the better.

Still the reason i hold admire japan more than the west is because welll... Third party publishers have propertys that aren't just sport and movie cash-ins. A lot of western developers have actually agreed they'd like a more eastern pholasaphy on games to them allow physically experimenting with different types of games, rather than focusing on one and thats your lot. lets put it this way, without that pholosiphy RE4 wouldn't be the way it is.

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just wondering about all this 'japan hates american products' thing, do they not love the ipod? obviously the 360s library simply
does not fit their needs its not just national loyalty is it? ps3 is hardly even selling there either.braydee1234

I think if there were a product made by the japanese with similar appeal to the ipod they'd shun the ipod straight away.

i thought sony make and sell their own mp3 player? ;)

dude have you seen how ugly that thing is?

But you said that japanese people would shun the ipod straight away for a national product. Aren't you contradicting yourself by saying the sony mp3 player didn't sell because it was ugly. 

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just wondering about all this 'japan hates american products' thing, do they not love the ipod? obviously the 360s library simply
does not fit their needs its not just national loyalty is it? ps3 is hardly even selling there either.Krigon

I think if there were a product made by the japanese with similar appeal to the ipod they'd shun the ipod straight away.

I said were there a national product with appeal. eg the wii is attractive, the ps3 isnt. Wii wins japan. 

i thought sony make and sell their own mp3 player? ;)

dude have you seen how ugly that thing is?

But you said that japanese people would shun the ipod straight away for a national product. Aren't you contradicting yourself by saying the sony mp3 player didn't sell because it was ugly.

Because Japan's a purdy place to live in:

Tokyo > The world 

Because:  Japanese give us weekly sales, NA give us monthly sales, and Europe gives us nada (well, a tidbit here and there).

So, Japanese sales are the most consistent and correct.

Alot of gamers just wish they could be japanese so that they could like gaming and anime out in the open and be considered cool for it.TheSystemLord1

Funny, I can do that here, in the US :o.

Because Japan's a purdy place to live in:

Tokyo > The world

 

Eponique

It is, it really is, everything is so different from America when you get out into the countrysides.  I don't know...its just a nice place. 

[QUOTE="Eponique"]

Because Japan's a purdy place to live in:

 

Tokyo > The world

 

TheSystemLord1

It is, it really is, everything is so different from America when you get out into the countrysides.  I don't know...its just a nice place. 

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

Because Japan's a purdy place to live in:

 

Tokyo > The world

 

Eltroz

It is, it really is, everything is so different from America when you get out into the countrysides.  I don't know...its just a nice place. 

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

Because Japan's a purdy place to live in:

 

Tokyo > The world

 

Eltroz

It is, it really is, everything is so different from America when you get out into the countrysides.  I don't know...its just a nice place. 

Yes... but do they have... ELECTRONIC TOILETS?! I DUN THINK SO! 

Free butt wipe, w00t?

Features such as:

1.  Small flush and large flush. If your doodie is big, you do the large flush. But if your doodie is small, you do the small flush, environment friendly :)
2. Bidet: To clean your vulva (ew).
3. You can adjust the water pressure to your liking!
4. Blow dryer, if your bottom's hair is a bit wet.

And many many more!

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On topic, because Japan's got 35 million gamers, Now that's a big % of the population compared to the other regions. 

Now, this is only my oppinion. But why does this forum repeatedly pay homage to Japan? Now I'm aware that Japan could possibly lay claim to being the birthground of modern gaming, and 2 of the companies in this generations war are Japanese, but things like Japanese sales figures seems to be the largest debate in this place. Japan is only the second largest consumer group in the world. America is the largest. Japan are notoriously loyal to Japanese products, whereas Europe and the US go for the product which suits trends rather than it's origin.

So I ask the question: Why do you rate Japan so highly? possibly to a higher degree than the USA market? 

braydee1234

actually japan is only the 3 when it comes to buying games and consols America is 1 Europe 2 and japan3

That toilet looks like a torture device.ross131313

[QUOTE="ross131313"]That toilet looks like a torture device.Jandurin

Ha, yeah, and WTF is up with the roll bar near the back of that contraption. 

I have nothing against Japan, but at the same time I also don't put them on a pedestal and worship them like some other people . .  . .sonicare

Then I could be a giant!

They're held a little higher because they're 1.) more tech savvy, and 2.) they made gaming what it is now, so they have some of the most valuable input in the gaming industry.  Not only the people who create, but the people who play.  The gamers there are open to much more than just "teh mature" games or madden.  Unlike many many many people in the US.

In short, they're more tech savvy, they've got seniority, and are more gaming (on a whole) oriented.

We don't rate Japan highly; a console, in order to win the console war, has to have Japan is all. I don't really hold them to a high standard since they seem to buy any game which has an anime-look to it.-The-G-Man-

What about Americans who like Sports and Shooters or Europeans that like sandbox games? Otakus love anime video games no matter how crappy they are. Same thing with frat boys loving shooters and sports games no matter how rehashed and mediocre they may be. 

I can't stand some of the Japanophiles myself, but I can't deny that Japanese have made gaming as popular as it is today. You can thank Nintendo for that. ;)  

Because Japan's a purdy place to live in:

 

Tokyo > The world 

 

Eponique

Looks like the projects in Chicago

Because they make better stuff than the USA does.  Cars, electronics, robots (fwt?!?!), games.  But when it comes to other media like movies and music America is more widely acknowledged as the HotDogs there.  Even though 99% of Hollywood movies suck, but still its the best we've got.

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Because Japan's a purdy place to live in:

 

Tokyo > The world 

 

Neal_Gore

Looks like the projects in Chicago

speaking of purdy places: