Iwata-3DS continues to struggle

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]History repeating itself; its the DS all over again. blackace

DS had a slow start. Outside of a N64 port (sound familar?) it had no killer apps for a while.

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]I dunno, OoT 3DS is 2nd Worldwide this week in sales, and it DID in fact spike the 3DS sales, just not like a killer app would. I don't think is as big as a blow people are making it to seem. A remake of a 13 year old game doesn't have quite the same appeal as say, Mario Kart 3DS. If Mario Kart or Mario 3DS don't move units, then the 3DS is in trouble.ratchet_usa

3ds needs a killer app badly. Everybody already played oot, and I don't think anybody will pay $249 just to replay an old game from the 90's.

The original DS sales were not horrible at launch nor its first year. It was already out pacing the GBA without any killer aps for more than a year. It took Mario Kart and Nintendogs with the simultaneous DS lite to sky rocket the system.

The 3DS is trying to repeat the DS success and launch plan, even down the the game releases. Except this time, the 3ds has two huge differences that hault that same process.

A)The 3d. If people don't get the "3d" aspect of the system, then whats the point of getting one? The touche screen for the DS was easy to understand because of the interaction, the 3D on the other hand has no such promise. We have yet to see 3D elevate any game on any platform.

B) The biggest issue imo is the 250price tag. People look at the launch and say how bad it was but honestly there have been a lot worse console/handheld launches. The difference this time is the price point. 250 is just too much, and too expensive with bad timing. I used to believe that Nintendo would not release a re-vised 3DS but thats complete bs. I own not one but two 3ds's, and I can easily see this thing getting the re-duex version by next year to match the Wii-U and the original DS model.

I dont like the PSvita/or playstation portables in general besides for fighting games, but the Vita seems like such a better offer than the 3ds. I rarely say this, infact I never said this about the Wii, (coming from someone who had one since launch) but Nintendo dropped the ball HARD on the 3ds first year. I really hope they get a move on and improve it the following year (which I am optimistic about)

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

if people think the 3ds is not going to sell....i pray for you

they seen their mistake early and are preparing it better with the future of the 3ds and wiu they admitted their mistakes now they about to be back on their business

FIipMode

Which one on the chalkboard will do it?

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"]History repeating itself; its the DS all over again. bbkkristian

Nintendo is doomed to repeat the history of DS sales? Oh noes! :D

I know why I didn't buy it: because Nintendo's going to come out with 5 iterations of the same hardware with miniscule improvements. I'll buy the 3DS+ (or whatever it's called) when it'll be better, cheaper, and more games will be available.

Probably because of the iPhone's huge success and the fact that there really aren't any games worth purchasing on the 3DS apart from two ports.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"]History repeating itself; its the DS all over again. Shadow2k6

DS had a slow start. Outside of a N64 port (sound familar?) it had no killer apps for a while.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]The price needs to drop to $175 and then more games need to be available. Haziqonfire

That would be a horrible business decision on Nintendo's part.A price drop this early would be terrible.

Nintendo just needs to provide more content on the platform to create a sense of value. If Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D and others release this year, it'll do its part in ensuring the platform success.

It struggles now because theres a lack of content. Ocarina of Time 3D gives it a small boost but they need a Mario game or two. Though, most of Nintendo console launches are pretty poor until it becomes better late in the first year and leading up to the second year. It seems like the same situation here.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]The price needs to drop to $175 and then more games need to be available. Coolyfett

That would be a horrible business decision on Nintendo's part.A price drop this early would be terrible.

Nintendo just needs to provide more content on the platform to create a sense of value. If Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D and others release this year, it'll do its part in ensuring the platform success.

It struggles now because theres a lack of content. Ocarina of Time 3D gives it a small boost but they need a Mario game or two. Though, most of Nintendo console launches are pretty poor until it becomes better late in the first year and leading up to the second year. It seems like the same situation here.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

That would be a horrible business decision on Nintendo's part.A price drop this early would be terrible.

Nintendo just needs to provide more content on the platform to create a sense of value. If Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D and others release this year, it'll do its part in ensuring the platform success.

It struggles now because theres a lack of content. Ocarina of Time 3D gives it a small boost but they need a Mario game or two. Though, most of Nintendo console launches are pretty poor until it becomes better late in the first year and leading up to the second year. It seems like the same situation here.

Coolyfett

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

That would be a horrible business decision on Nintendo's part.A price drop this early would be terrible.

Nintendo just needs to provide more content on the platform to create a sense of value. If Mario Kart 3D, Super Mario 3D and others release this year, it'll do its part in ensuring the platform success.

It struggles now because theres a lack of content. Ocarina of Time 3D gives it a small boost but they need a Mario game or two. Though, most of Nintendo console launches are pretty poor until it becomes better late in the first year and leading up to the second year. It seems like the same situation here.

Coolyfett

[QUOTE="Heil68"] There will be a 2nd version and price drop, no doubt about it. I guess I'll wait for that and some games worth playing that aren't ports. Coolyfett

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] There will be a 2nd version and price drop, no doubt about it. I guess I'll wait for that and some games worth playing that aren't ports. Heil68

We should keep in mind that the phrase "continues to struggle" does not mean "selling poorly'. By all accounts the 3DS is selling very well. It's just not meeting its lofty expectations. At least not yet.

It's all because it sounds too much like 3DO. :twisted:

Eh, it's a hand held "N" product and will likely survive & thrive. :P

We should keep in mind that the phrase "continues to struggle" does not mean "selling poorly'. By all accounts the 3DS is selling very well. It's just not meeting its lofty expectations. At least not yet.

dzimm

I was sceptical about the 3D emphasis even when everyone was praising Ninty's E3 2010 conference. It just isn't enough to make a handheld better, of course the 3DS has everything the DS had so that's good plus better graphics but is that really enough when majority of gamers don't really care about 3D ? On the other hand Sony I feel has done enough to make Vita different to the PSP. And keep in mind I didn't like the PSP as a handheld and preferred the DS though both didn't do enough to convince me to jump into handheld gaming, 3DS still doesn't I am afraid but PS Vita has definitely got me thinking. I think it is very possible that PS Vita will be the dominant handheld, but you never know I mean most of Ninty's top franchises have yet to make it onto the 3DS.

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] No it absolutely would not. What are you thinking? It would make me consider buying one so I don't see how that would be bad unless it would upset you personally that you paid a higher price. It WILL have a price drop sooner or later so it's not like it's out of the realm of possibilities. Heil68

The problem of the 3DS is that it's not appealing to the Blue Ocean crowd. There are not any games that appeal to them and Nintendo's obsession of 3D is hurting them. The Zelda series was never a system seller. What will spike sales is a 2D Mario. Super Mario 3DS will do well, but it won't sell like New Super Mario DS. I'm sure Mario Kart will be a bigger system seller this holiday.

The problem of the 3DS is that it's not appealing to the Blue Ocean crowd. There are not any games that appeal to them and Nintendo's obsession of 3D is hurting them. The Zelda series was never a system seller. What will spike sales is a 2D Mario. Super Mario 3DS will do well, but it won't sell like New Super Mario DS. I'm sure Mario Kart will be a bigger system seller this holiday.

FireEmblem_Man

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

The problem of the 3DS is that it's not appealing to the Blue Ocean crowd. There are not any games that appeal to them and Nintendo's obsession of 3D is hurting them. The Zelda series was never a system seller. What will spike sales is a 2D Mario. Super Mario 3DS will do well, but it won't sell like New Super Mario DS. I'm sure Mario Kart will be a bigger system seller this holiday.

AtariKidX

Why does Mario Kart still sell for the Wii? Old school 2D games sell better than their 3D counterparts

The problem of the 3DS is that it's not appealing to the Blue Ocean crowd. There are not any games that appeal to them and Nintendo's obsession of 3D is hurting them. The Zelda series was never a system seller. What will spike sales is a 2D Mario. Super Mario 3DS will do well, but it won't sell like New Super Mario DS. I'm sure Mario Kart will be a bigger system seller this holiday.

FireEmblem_Man

No it absolutely would not. What are you thinking? It would make me consider buying one so I don't see how that would be bad unless it would upset you personally that you paid a higher price. It WILL have a price drop sooner or later so it's not like it's out of the realm of possibilities. Heil68

A price drop this early would give them far less leverage in the future. Nintendo has to provide a reason for people to pick up their handheld. They have to provide value. They provide value by providing us with a bunch of games that make the platform worth the $250 price point. Mario Kart 3D and Super Mario 3D during the fall would definitely push the hardware, among other third party and smaller titles. Plus, we haven't even seen the full marketing push for the device yet. Nintendo is definitely waiting till the holiday season before their marketing blitz.

It'll have a price drop... but definitely not this early in the gen.

Nintendo better start working on those 3D classics and not just state the friggin' obvious. Make the eShop something worth visiting at least.

Well, eventually Nintendo will bring out the big guns. Pokemon, Mario, a Zelda game that's not a remake, Metroid etc. Then sales will skyrocket. But right now, it doesn't feel like a 'next gen' handheld, it feels like a beefed DS unless u know the specs, and most people don't. I will buy it when the new Pokemon game comes out for the 3ds, also waiting for a new Wario game (hey, I was always a Wario guy...never liked that Mario dude...)

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]History repeating itself; its the DS all over again. Bread_or_Decide

So you know better than Iwata?

DS had the holiday season. An unprepared launch in spring was a bad idea.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]History repeating itself; its the DS all over again. mbrockway

So you know better than Iwata?

DS had the holiday season. An unprepared launch in spring was a bad idea.

But the Zelda was to sell 3 million more units...what happened??Coolyfett

[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]But the Zelda was to sell 3 million more units...what happened??DJ_Lae

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

The problem of the 3DS is that it's not appealing to the Blue Ocean crowd. There are not any games that appeal to them and Nintendo's obsession of 3D is hurting them. The Zelda series was never a system seller. What will spike sales is a 2D Mario. Super Mario 3DS will do well, but it won't sell like New Super Mario DS. I'm sure Mario Kart will be a bigger system seller this holiday.

Shinobishyguy

In a business sense, no it's not a good thing at all! If Nintendo wants to beat the DS sales, then they need to cater to all groups. Blue Ocen Group are not a group of mentally chanllenged gamers. They'll know a bad game when they see one.

I'm sure the 3DS will pick up eventually when more games come out for it. I might get one eventually but I'll get the Vita first. That thing looks sweet.