Is the Dual Shock 4 the best Controller ever created?

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#1 Edited by ProtossX (2880 posts) -

Its got some high tech screen thing on it basically the controller has better graphics than a gameboy advance it has its own screen an stuff on it

looks like a work of art the feel of it its the best ps controller ive felt in my hand the weight is perfect

it has like laser screens its wireless its got recharging

its like a thing of art man i'd pay 100's for it

u can use a usb to plug it in a ps3/PC

heck xbox owners might be able to use it with usb dump ur crappy controller an pick up the dual shock right?

#2 Posted by charizard1605 (72553 posts) -

I haven't used it yet, but everyone tells me it's right up there with the Gamecube and Xbox 360 controllers, so I'd imagine so.

#3 Posted by bobbetybob (19359 posts) -

Are you drunk right now or just incredibly stupid?

#4 Posted by adders99 (2623 posts) -

@bobbetybob said:

Are you drunk right now or just incredibly stupid?

possibly both?

#5 Posted by starwolf474 (983 posts) -

While it is a huge improvement over the piece of crap PS3 controller, the left analog stick is still in an unnatural position for most modern games. The PS4 controller might be the best controller ever for 2D games, but for 3D games, the Xbox 360 controller is still the king and the Xbox One controller is in second place.

#6 Posted by Bikouchu35 (7896 posts) -

Loss of analog buttons and the classic position of the rubber start/select keys, square and circle are longer spaced properly.

However the laser stuff does indeed make it the best controller by far.

#7 Edited by mems_1224 (53409 posts) -

@bobbetybob said:

Are you drunk right now or just incredibly stupid?

no one can get that drunk

#8 Edited by FLOPPAGE_50 (1088 posts) -

No, it has faults.

Battery is still a major issue.

#9 Edited by silversix_ (21131 posts) -

Yes, nothing comes close.

#10 Posted by _Matt_ (9973 posts) -

Go home tc, you're drunk.

But yeah the controller is amazing, but I still need to properly experience the XB1 controller to judge properly

#11 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

Pretty much. Just need to patch in the ability to turn the light off and proper PS3 compatibility. As for lems who can't wrap their heads around symmetrical sticks:

#12 Posted by Sushiglutton (6273 posts) -

Yeah let's put a flashlight in the front so every time there's a dark section in a game the player will see an immersion breaking reflexion. I mean wtf were they thinking?

#13 Edited by freedomfreak (47427 posts) -

Just about, yeah.

#14 Posted by DocSanchez (3331 posts) -

It's bloody good. It's got a good weight to it. I think we're getting about as good as you can get with the standard layouts. Would be perfect with better battery life but as it charges on USB its really not an issue.

#15 Posted by Suppaman100 (5250 posts) -

It's MILLLLLLLLLESSSSSSSSSSS ahead of the 360 and Xbone controller.

Best controller for consoles to date.

#16 Posted by getyeryayasout (9879 posts) -

He's awful damn good. I think I got the best one, honey.

#17 Edited by razu2444 (808 posts) -

Rocks

#19 Posted by Messiahbolical- (5583 posts) -

@starwolf474 said:

While it is a huge improvement over the piece of crap PS3 controller, the left analog stick is still in an unnatural position for most modern games. The PS4 controller might be the best controller ever for 2D games, but for 3D games, the Xbox 360 controller is still the king and the Xbox One controller is in second place.

When the only complaint you can come up for it is that the "analog stick is in an UNNATURAL place", then yeah... the controller is pretty much perfect. I mean really now? An UNNATURAL place?! As if analogs sticks are natural things that you were programmed to use a specific way at birth? lmao. If anything, having your hands/thumbs/anything in symmetrical positions when controlling things is about as close as you can get to saying that it's "natural".

Just because your Xbot brain can't handle the grueling task of having your thumb rest an inch and a half further to the right compared to usual doesn't make it a flaw. It makes YOU flawed.

On the other hand, you can actually point out legitimate flaws with the Xbox One controller compared to the PS4 controller such as taking AA batteries, having way less features, and having a stupid ass proprietary mic port that your old gaming headset(mine happens to cost $200) doesn't let you voice chat on because Microsoft was greedy as usual and felt the need to milk more money from the headset companies.

#20 Posted by betamaxx83 (360 posts) -

I would have to say the DS4 is the best overall controller, I still prefer 360 for shooters. It's definitely the most comfortable controller I've ever used. Once you get use to the analog sticks it's a pretty damn good FPS controller.

#21 Posted by AtariKidX (6711 posts) -

@ProtossX: Yes....it is the best of all time.

#22 Posted by Snugenz (13388 posts) -

It's a great controller but not the best ever, needs some work before it could be considered that.

#23 Edited by MonsieurX (34328 posts) -

@bobbetybob said:

Are you drunk right now or just incredibly stupid?

Just the usual ProtossX thread

#24 Edited by clr84651 (5605 posts) -

If the battery life were about 2 hours longer, I would put it up there.

#25 Posted by masiisam (5722 posts) -

Miles ahead of the DS3 in ergonomics...but the battery life and that dumb ass little speaker are annoying

#26 Posted by kingtito (6697 posts) -

Last gen cows were calling the DS3 the best controller ever. I don't think we can take anything cows say seriously about the DS4. It might be a big improvement but it's far from the best controller ever.

#27 Edited by Basinboy (12017 posts) -

It's getting there. I still prefer X360 controller, but DS4 is growing quickly on me.

#28 Edited by ominous_titan (965 posts) -

its by far my favorite controller i love all the changes they made and its solid as a rock, im not too impressed with xb1 though its not symmetrical they wobble if its on a table and you push on its corner hehehe (it really does though) and its rumble is too strong and the controller makes a hell of a vibrating rattle in some cases like aiming a pike in Ryse.m2c

#29 Posted by Dreams-Visions (26569 posts) -

It's top 3. Better battery life and it would be my #2.

#30 Posted by Telekill (5633 posts) -

Its a great controller but I don't think the touch pad is a screen like the OP suggests.

#31 Posted by Couth_ (10369 posts) -

The audio jack is genius. If the battery life were better it'd be a 10/10

#32 Posted by reggy72 (144 posts) -

Nope, I've both the PS4 and One, the PS4 pad is better than the DS3 but it has its flaws, Poor battery life, Flush option button, hard to find without looking at the pad, I find the sticks slippy if that makes sense, my thumbs don't natural fit properly so in quick movements they slip off, the Xbox One controller is not as comfy as the 360's, the triggers are not a natural fit, no battery life indicator which is a piss poor simple thing to get right tbh.

The best pad as of now is still the 360's end thread.....

#33 Posted by starwolf474 (983 posts) -

@Messiahbolical- said:

@starwolf474 said:

While it is a huge improvement over the piece of crap PS3 controller, the left analog stick is still in an unnatural position for most modern games. The PS4 controller might be the best controller ever for 2D games, but for 3D games, the Xbox 360 controller is still the king and the Xbox One controller is in second place.

When the only complaint you can come up for it is that the "analog stick is in an UNNATURAL place", then yeah... the controller is pretty much perfect. I mean really now? An UNNATURAL place?! As if analogs sticks are natural things that you were programmed to use a specific way at birth? lmao. If anything, having your hands/thumbs/anything in symmetrical positions when controlling things is about as close as you can get to saying that it's "natural".

Just because your Xbot brain can't handle the grueling task of having your thumb rest an inch and a half further to the right compared to usual doesn't make it a flaw. It makes YOU flawed.

On the other hand, you can actually point out legitimate flaws with the Xbox One controller compared to the PS4 controller such as taking AA batteries, having way less features, and having a stupid ass proprietary mic port that your old gaming headset(mine happens to cost $200) doesn't let you voice chat on because Microsoft was greedy as usual and felt the need to milk more money from the headset companies.

That's a huge complaint that keeps it from being perfect for modern games. It's unnatural because your thumb does not naturally rest in that position when gripping the controller like how your thumb naturally rests over the analog stick when gripping a Xbox controller. On the PS4 controller, you have to stretch your thumb out to the right and down to touch the analog stick which leads to cramping after holding it in that position for an extended period of time. It's not nearly as bad as the cramping from the PS3 controller, but I still feel cramping after about an hour of using the PS4 controller which means there is no way I could ever consider it the best controller ever for 3D games (again, it's great for 2D games that use the d-pad as primary).

The base design of the PlayStation controller is based on an 18 year old controller, that was made in a time when the d-pad was the primary control method. Since then, the analog stick has taken over as the primary control method and every other company, Microsoft, Nintendo, Sega, even Ouya have put the analog stick in the primary position. Sony is the only company that keeps the archaic design of having the d-pad in the primary position instead of the analog stick.

There is a reason why 3rd parties have released many PlayStation controllers that copy the Xbox analog stick placement, but I don't think I've ever seen any 3rd party Xbox controllers that copy the PlayStation analog stick placement because there would not be much demand for that. Sony has even admitted themselves that their user test team for the PS4 controller wanted them to try having the analog stick on top, but management decided against it because they wanted to keep the "PlayStation look", which in my opinion was a mistake.

#34 Edited by good_sk8er7 (4325 posts) -

Screen? Lasers? WHAHHAHHTHAHTHAHTATATTTTT. Why didn't I notice that yet :O

Anyways, I love it personally. It's by far the best controller I've ever used.

#35 Posted by DonnaTroy (245 posts) -

yep

#36 Posted by Ghost120x (4635 posts) -

I'm still getting a ps4 but i'm not so sure. The battery life is weak and I prefer the asymmetrical sticks of the Xbox 360. I do like how Sony changed the form factor of the ds4 because the ps3 hurts my hands after a hour of use.

#37 Edited by j2zon2591 (2824 posts) -

I would've preferred the X1's sticks form and material (not necessarily positioning) because I find the PS4's slippery and the flaking issue doesn't instill confidence.

Battery isn't stellar.

The touchpad seems interesting tho.

X1's bumper buttons, I am not a fan of.

Fix the sticks, a more premium feel for the touchpad and increase battery.. then I'd love to give it my personal "best controller ever" award.

#38 Posted by AdobeArtist (23478 posts) -

@ProtossX said:

Its got some high tech screen thing on it basically the controller has better graphics than a gameboy advance it has its own screen an stuff on it

The **** is this?? :|

#39 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10644 posts) -

I'll wait for the revision. Im sure (hoping) Sony will come out with a revision of the DS4 (like M$ did with the 360 controller). There really isnt much to revise, but I would suggest just bigger L1 and R1 buttons, better battery, and to make the light on the controller a little smaller.

#40 Edited by FLOPPAGE_50 (1088 posts) -

@Nengo_Flow said:

I'll wait for the revision. Im sure (hoping) Sony will come out with a revision of the DS4 (like M$ did with the 360 controller). There really isnt much to revise, but I would suggest just bigger L1 and R1 buttons, better battery, and to make the light on the controller a little smaller.

great suggestions, but battery should be priorty, its awful.

#41 Posted by ratchet_usa (372 posts) -

Dual Shock 3 was already the perfect controller. DS4 only improved on perfection.

the xbox 360 controller is good for shooters, but it sucks when it comes to action games, fighting, racing, plat formers etc.

Overall, DS4 is the superior and best controller of all.

#42 Posted by killatwill15 (855 posts) -

I use the ds4 exclusively for the pc,

even before it was feasible I would often hold the ds4,

no game or nothing it just felt natural to fiddle with......

I haven't seen or been near an xbox one controller,

I went to best buy last week and asked about a demo unit.....

he said quote "why demo it? just buy an xbox one"

to which he pointed me to about a stack of 5.

#43 Edited by darkangel115 (3136 posts) -

Not even close.

1st off the controller can't be the best until the LS is placed into the proper position. 99% of games use the LS over the dpad for primary movement. The TS design is 20 years old from when games used the d-pad more and the LS less. it needs to be fixed. Sony si the only company to have the LS in that place. every other controller does not. there is a good reason for that

2ndly the triggers are high and don't really lock your finger in like the X1 triggers. Also having to move from trigger to bumper was last gen, the X1 solved it by allowing you to press the trigger and bumper w/o moving your finger off the trigger

3rdly the new additions of a lightbar and speaker don't add to the controller and are more gimmicks then useful, plus drain the battery. The rumble triggers actually add to the game's feedback

so X1>360>DS4>DS3

not to mention the way the DS4 makes you sweat like crazy for some reason and the poor rubber on the sticks

#44 Posted by KHAndAnime (16179 posts) -

It's my favorite. Feels great and sturdy.

#45 Edited by Chozofication (6808 posts) -

I've heard/seen the thumb sticks crack and lose their rubber easily, on quite a few controllers if not all eventually. And the light bar and battery life is just stupid.

Which is BS considering the controllers only cost $18 to make, yet they charge $60. Dualshocks have been the absolute cheapest among all 3 companies, quality wise. My DS3's all wore down very fast, and even when new you can tell are cheap shit.

All company's are guilty of rampant overpricing now, though. One of the worst things to come with the 7th generation - "Oh, this tiny little blue-tooth thing is so expensive and high tech, so it's double the price." Controllers should not be more than $40.

My Wii U pro feels pretty solid, but i'm wary of the DS4's build quality...

#46 Posted by AdobeArtist (23478 posts) -

@ratchet_usa said:

Dual Shock 3 was already the perfect controller. DS4 only improved on perfection.

the xbox 360 controller is good for shooters, but it sucks when it comes to action games, fighting, racing, plat formers etc.

Overall, DS4 is the superior and best controller of all.

The DS3 was far from perfect. The form factor was designed with poor ergonomics, the sticks with their convex heads, and flawed triggers with their downward slope. Fortunately these were all addressed with DS4.

And 360 controller I can concede had issues for fighters, but there is absolutely no reason to criticize it's design and function in other genres like Racers (the triggers made great pedals) platformers or any action game, from Assassin's Creed to Batman Arkham.

The 360's one glaring flaw was it's d-pad, which got the much needed overhaul.

#47 Edited by hiphops_savior (8235 posts) -

@starwolf474: If you're going to argue over layout, the Wii U Pro Controller has them both beat.

#48 Posted by cainetao11 (24414 posts) -

@Suppaman100 said:

It's MILLLLLLLLLESSSSSSSSSSS ahead of the 360 and Xbone controller.

Best controller for consoles to date.

You have an X1?

#50 Posted by DonnaTroy (245 posts) -

yes it is.