Is Poland a rising force on video game market?

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#1  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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Hint: yes, it is

Examples of Polish quality are numerous. You don't have to look any further than the Witcher series which is known and appreciated worldwide. Besides, in recent times we had This War of Mine, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Shadow Warrior, Lords of the Fallen. In a couple of days Dying Light is going to be released, before that we had Dead Island, Bulletstorm, two Call of Juarez games, Painkiller and numerous others. In the future we're going to have Cyberpunk 2077.

Can we all agree that Poland is now almost on the same level other European countries that used to be dominant before, like France or Germany?

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#2  Edited By BassMan
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They have some good talent there. Hopefully more good games will continue to come from Poland and other European nations. I am glad to see more Euro devs in general, as I can't stand most of the stuff that comes out of Japan and Asia.

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#3  Edited By polishkid99
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@Salt_The_Fries:

Wooo go Polska!

Still, when I'm there. Fifa reigns supreme. But the developers are good. Love the Witcher series.

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#4 polishkid99
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@BassMan: i can't stand that stuff either, other than nintendo products..but not zelda.

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#5 R4gn4r0k
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No, as they have been for a long time.

Painkiller is one of the best FPS of all time, and it's a game from Poland. Poland making good games is not anything new or recent.

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#6 Cloud_imperium
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Seems like it.

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#7 Lulu_Lulu
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Yeah ..... all they need now is more Co-Op.....

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#8  Edited By indzman
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All the devs r overrated from there. Japan,France, UK and US still king maker of video games

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#9 ghostwarrior786
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well soon there will be no one left in poland

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#12  Edited By Jag85
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While Poland may have arguably caught up with Germany, I don't think it has caught up with France yet. And it still has a long way to go before it catches up to Britain, let alone Japan or America. Overall, I'd say Poland is, at the very least, one of the world's top ten countries for game development.

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#13 indzman
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@sheikhspeare said:

@indzman said:

All the devs r overrated from there. Japan,France, UK and US still king maker of video games

Japan USED to be the king back when I had milk teeth. France? what's that? UK and USA? another two countries who've fallen to the mainstream abyss. It's either Poland or Germany in this age.

Ehhh!

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Most of the games you listed are AA at most. But it's great to see different developers from across the world.

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#17  Edited By rogerjak
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Leave Poland alone, I want my Witcher 3 ASAP!

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#18 lamprey263
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You make a good case.

Loved both the Dead Island games despite their flaws, and the second Call of Juarez (Bound In Blood), and Bulletstorm... didn't much care for Witcher 2 though.

Anyhow, totally stoked for Dying Light. And after having watched some videos of Lord of the Fallen lately, I'd also like to play that as well, might be a while but it's on my to-do list. With Majora's Mask for 3DS and Battlefield Hardlines coming in the next few weeks I'm gonna be busy.

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#19 NoodleFighter
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Isn't Hatred being made by a Polish studio?

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@NoodleFighter said:

Isn't Hatred being made by a Polish studio?

and?

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@scottpsfan14 said:

So a few niche PC games, a poor souls copy and The Witcher series? A rising force? Far from it.

Not even Vanishing of Ethan Carter which is coming to PS4 as well?

Lol, you noob, you haven't even heard / played Call of Juarez games which were on consoles as well :D you ignored Dying Light / Dead Island too :P

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@Lulu_Lulu said:

Yeah ..... all they need now is more Co-Op.....

Dying Light should deliver on that.

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#26  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@FoxbatAlpha:

No Splitscreen is No Good.

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#27  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@FoxbatAlpha:

No Splitscreen is No Good.

Oh...........well................uhhh................go do some dishes or something. lol.

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@FoxbatAlpha:

Dishes need Co-Op....

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#29 darklight4
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Poland has talented devs but no way soar above other countries.

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Only game I care about there is The Vanishing of Ethan Carter and Cyberpunk 2077 when it eventually releases in 2077.

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#31 FoxbatAlpha
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Does Cliffy B count or just devs/studios native to Poland?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Bleszinski

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#32  Edited By freedomfreak
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There's been four Call of Juarez games.

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#33 Suppaman100
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Yeah Poland is doing great, they're really growing in tech fields.

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#34 jg4xchamp
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Define force

If it's about sales, no one other than CD Project Red is really piling on big numbers. If it's their quality. Monolith's work in the last 5 years doesn't come close to what they used to be, People Can Fly made one game worth a damn, Techland is just as likely to pump out dog shit as much as they might make a good game, and then a small indie scene.

Rising force is pushing it at best.

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KURWAAAAA!

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One thing you should remember is that most of these polish devs are funded by publishers from different countries and have employees from different countries (german employees especially).

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#38  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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@jg4xchamp said:

Define force

If it's about sales, no one other than CD Project Red is really piling on big numbers. If it's their quality. Monolith's work in the last 5 years doesn't come close to what they used to be, People Can Fly made one game worth a damn, Techland is just as likely to pump out dog shit as much as they might make a good game, and then a small indie scene.

Rising force is pushing it at best.

Hm, didn't you mean somebody else here, surely not Monolith Studios that made FEAR and Mordor?

What I meant by force is creating a considerable amount of games that were critically acclaimed to a certain degree (like most of the games I've mentioned are at least 70 on metacritic, but most of them around 80, or high 70), compared to other European countries. On a secondary level, a level that is obscure to most of you is also comparing Poland of the 2010s to the Poland of previous decades in gaming (from 90s onwards), where the quality games were fewer and far between (most notably Earth 2140 and its sequels).

Regarding sales: This Ware of Mine did exceptionally well for a PC indie game since it recouped its dev costs in just 2 weeks, although no official figures were disclosed.

It seems that the consistency and the amount of this games has considerably increased. Yes, we may not have a lot of consistent AAA developers, but there are a lot of indie ones and a lot of middle-sized aspiring ones as well. That is a stark contrast to 1990s were Polish games were developed once in a blue moon, and I think Poland can almost go head-to-head with Western European countries now.

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America is still king

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@Lulu_Lulu said:

Yeah ..... all they need now is more Co-Op.....

And cowbell

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#41  Edited By jg4xchamp
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

@jg4xchamp said:

Define force

If it's about sales, no one other than CD Project Red is really piling on big numbers. If it's their quality. Monolith's work in the last 5 years doesn't come close to what they used to be, People Can Fly made one game worth a damn, Techland is just as likely to pump out dog shit as much as they might make a good game, and then a small indie scene.

Rising force is pushing it at best.

Hm, didn't you mean somebody else here, surely not Monolith Studios that made FEAR and Mordor?

What I meant by force is creating a considerable amount of games that were critically acclaimed to a certain degree (like most of the games I've mentioned are at least 70 on metacritic, but most of them around 80, or high 70), compared to other European countries. On a secondary level, a level that is obscure to most of you is also comparing Poland of the 2010s to the Poland of previous decades in gaming (from 90s onwards), where the quality games were fewer and far between (most notably Earth 2140 and its sequels).

Regarding sales: This Ware of Mine did exceptionally well for a PC indie game since it recouped its dev costs in just 2 weeks, although no official figures were disclosed.

It seems that the consistency and the amount of this games has considerably increased. Yes, we may not have a lot of consistent AAA developers, but there are a lot of indie ones and a lot of middle-sized aspiring ones as well. That is a stark contrast to 1990s were Polish games were developed once in a blue moon, and I think Poland can almost go head-to-head with Western European countries now.

Yeah I meant Monolith. Fear was 2005, Mordor was this past year in 14. In between that they had one good condemned game, a sequel that absolutely shits itself in the second half, and a consolized abomination that followed the original Fear. They haven't been consistently great for awhile. That stretch when they were bouncing from Blood to Shogo to No one Lives Forever to AvP2 to Fear was their height.

70 plus isn't much of a force, that's a downswing for the established regions like Japan. Is it rising? sure. Does the indie scene benefit smaller countries like this to actually have a voice in the market? absolutely. But, a force? that's a bit of hyperbole at this point. As a seller, yeah I'm not saying any of them aren't making money.

But there is a difference between success and being a force. Call of Duty is a force. Grand Theft Auto is a force. Ditto for the likes of Halo, Gears, Final Fantasy or what have you. The most successful polish IP is The Witcher series, and it doesn't really compete at that high level. Shadow of Mordor might be the new big gun, but that took the Lord of the Rings IP to pull it off.