Is Bloodborne proof that 30 fps still works?

@AzatiS:

Mario kart looks great, as does smash. I play mario kart so frequently that when I eventually got around to trying gta5 it felt sluggish.

Ha, man, I don't even know how long mine is, but damn, it takes ages.

I've had the same thing happen here too. In Old Yharnham. Wonder what that is about.

I can't play 30 fps games with fps drops. Makes me sick and nauseated. Suffering through dark souls 2 on ps3 was a mistake

There's a difference between "Still works" and "is ideal". 30fps always has and always will work, but 60 is far and away better and more ideal

Of course, 30FPS still works. The game would be better in 60, but it still works.

This.

Mario Kart and Smash are not even close to what someone can call graphical peak in 2014/2015. Period . Its the opposite actually. These kind of graphics would have been a joke for PS4 to make it even on 100fps .. The question here is ... what Wii Us performance would be on titles like Witcher 3 , MGS 5 etc ? Those games are pushing hardwares. Lets not even think about it. Ill be playing those titles on 1080p/60fps at least on my PC and i dont mind to wait for them as long as ill get the supreme experience.

Kart and Smash are all about awesome level design and art. Nothing more ... Something really easy to do ( depends the developer but still ) and nothing really hard to achieve as far as frames per second goes.

As for GTA5 , sorry bro , ill get the experience on PC , 1200p/60fps at least so ... Thats what PC is all about.

how can a graphically inferior game like bloodborne STILL be at a choppy 30 fps is beyond me.

I timed a few recent loading times, from Forbidden Woods to HD (Hunter's Dream) it was 11 seconds, HD to Central Yarnham 45 seconds, Central Yarnham to Hunter's Dream 35 seconds.

It's all over the place. And at one point while sprinting through Forbidden Forest there was literally no ground, it took about 10 seconds to load in...

The lie detector determined that is a lie TC. I've played games at 60 FPS and that should be the standard. I don't if the graphics are super amazing but having less than 60 FPS is a travesty.

@Snugenz: yeah good call... It is all over the place. I usually check sports scores or catch up on emails/texts during... Lol.

Lol. Another golden @SolidGame_basic thread.

I need to bookmark these.

TC likes having attention.

@freedomfreak: it's like a buzz clipping sound that pops up... Frame rate drops during those moments too.

Although i imagine that graphical fidelity would take a massive hit if released as a 60fps console game, I think a game that's designed to be hard should give the player more precision than offered in 30fps games. I know it isn't a competitive fighting game, though the slightest fraction of a second can still make significant differences if the game is really frickin' hard.

Here's a video I just uploaded of Dark Souls 2 Scholar of the First Sin in 1080p 60fps.

Go ahead. Tell me how 60fps isn't good for a game like Bloodborne or Darksouls for that matter.

Yup. It's exactly that. Thought it was the sound system. Good to know it's not.

@seanmcloughlin: yep... Exactly. Who would turn down a smoother game?

@freedomfreak: lol... Bloodborne is playing the eternal darkness game with us freedom.... Making us think we've gone mad.

But you'll lose that mystique!

Running with 40 Insight. I have gone mad :p

@lostrib: I do really like stutter blurring my flanks for surprise attacks... Sigh :/ gimme 60fps all day of the week.

SW likes giving it to him.

Yes, much in the same way that owning a Toyota is totally the same as owning a Porsche. I mean, they're both cars, right?

Frame-rate wise Dark Souls is a major **** up across the board, even on PC no matter the specs. Not sure how good the new version of DS2 is though.

A fast paced game like Bloodborne would be the first to benefit from 60fps... This game's pvp would've been glorious in 60fps but instead its in 20fps or lower when fighting multiple people.

IMO it always worked, but was always part of a balancing act, you can have more impressive visuals but it might come at the expense of framerate. Or have a faster framerate but will come at a sacrifice in other areas of the graphical performance. But, 30fps is workable at no major sense of loss, 60fps is better but 30fps is adequate. I don't think anybody has seriously cared whether games are always 1080p/60fps, I think a majority of Sony fanboys just want their PS4 ports to be better than the Xbox One's.

What it comes down to is this: Games are not movies. Movies running at 60fps look weird because they weren't designed with it in mind. Games are interactive and require precise controls. The only way to provide those controls with minimal input lag is with a higher framerate. Part of Call Of Duty's popularity, whether the general public knows it or not, is due to the fact that the games run at 60fps. Now that Battlefield runs at 60fps this gen we're seeing a lot of converts.

The 30 FPS is fine, it just bothers me when it noticeably dips but that doesn't happen too often thankfully.

Never saw Dark Souls 1 or 2 dip below 60 for me, except when Sheath does his crystal bullshit. But that drops frames for everyone for some weird reason. Clearly part of that fight's mechanics.

Sort of, yes. It isn't like one can appreciate a nice sports car in a city, unless they are buying the car as a purse-accessory. Enzo Ferrari once said something not so nice about people buying his cars for city driving/commuting....would like to remember exactly what.

Someone revoke his rights to make new topics already.... this is clearly trolling, like most of his other topics.

What cinematic about slow downs and DRrrrrr sounds when the frames freeze completely?

Depends if it's stable or not a stable 30fps is fine unless it's a fighting, driving, bayonetta type games. But I'd rather have 60FPS unless it's going to be up down and all over the place.

BB is a quick game so 60fps is as important to this game as it is to Bayo.

Please, not this cinematic bullshit again... 60fps is better than 30fps. There is no room for discussion about this. It's stupid. I'm not saying that 30fps is unplayable but saying that it's better than 60fps is just,,, sigh.

Hahaha, you're always spot on.

What happened to all the numbers between 31 - 59? Why does it always have to be 30 or 60?

Why can't companies compromise with like say 45fps... sure it's not as great as 60 but it's 15 frames per second better than 30.

TC posts this and doesn't respond or further defend his statement at all. He wasn't even trying to make a point.

He sucks.

Ignoring your dumbfuckery, 30fps has always been fine for a number of genres. However, that isn't to say that 60fps isn't better for pretty much all genres.

30fps is the framerate of poor people

The games needs to be able actually run the game at 30 frames consistently regardless. It does not. If it did your post would hold true. But 60fps is better in 99% of cases no doubt.