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#251 String-Fellow
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It's just one game, really shows maturity level of so called Lemmings who are more of a console bashers than cows I have observed in past few days.
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#252 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="poptart"]

That is dissapointing. A game flopping should not be applauded. A company releasing a dud is not good for gamers.

I think we should hold a minutes silence for the game that could have been...

Eltroz

Only gamers it hurt was the cows. Does not effect Lemmings or sheep at all. For example lemmings just got a AAA game so those gamers are doing just fine.

Yeah, how does Lair flopping hurt gaming in general at all? Games have been flopping since the start of gaming, and the only game who's floppage has ever actually hurt the industry was E.T. Lair is pretty bad, but I don't think it's E.T.

If anything, games like Lair flopping so hard with games like Bioshock being a massive success will only tell developers and publishers that we won't stand for unoriginal garbage. And that's only good for gaming.

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#253 lucas_kelly
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Floptastic.
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#254 Carmilla31
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I guess im taking Lair off of my wish list. :)
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#255 Art_424
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It's just one game, really shows maturity level of so called Lemmings who are more of a console bashers than cows I have observed in past few days. String-Fellow

If your such an observer, you would know, most hyped AAA titles on the PS3 are flopping like pancakes lately.

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#256 solidte
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:shock: wow just wow, this game looked like it had some potential on paper just chugged with some terrible, terrible flaws.
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#257 Newnab
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Wow. Official hype was AA, with a relatively strong base of Lair-fans here claimiing AAA (and many agreeing until the time came for the hype thread)...

4.9 is... Wow.

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#258 Dreams-Visions
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Sooo....instead of calling them "Factor 5"...

...can we call them "Factor 4.9" now? :D

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#259 monkeysrfat
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Dear God this is worse than red steel
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#260 Zeliard9
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Sooo....instead of calling them "Factor 5"...

...can we call them "Factor 4.9" now? :D

Dreams-Visions

:lol:

That's awesome. Yes, let's.

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#261 paraskhos_basic
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lol, poor Sony, http://ps3.ign.com/objects/761/761161.htmldunamistheou
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#262 Master_Hermes
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[QUOTE="Escamillo"]

:lol:

Factor 5 hasn't made a decent game in ages (GameCube's Rogue Leader 1 was pretty to look at and pretty good, but Rogue Leader 2 was trash), so this is no surprise. Not only was this game hyped, but Factor 5 itself was hyped when the announced they do PD3 exclusively, then made press releases trashing Xbox360, all of this was cheered by the cows. lol

Well, Factor 5 knows graphics, but they sure don't know games. :lol:

kansasdude2009

Professor Layton dares to differ. Factor 5 is amazing, I blame the PS3 for this! :P

no, not really...

Professor Layton is developed by Level 5 not Factor 5.

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#263 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Sooo....instead of calling them "Factor 5"...

...can we call them "Factor 4.9" now? :D

Zeliard9

:lol:

That's awesome. Yes, let's.

Win. :D

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#264 Teuf_
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Yeah, its pretty safe to call this a flop now. No need to even wait for the GS review, really. However I'm still not really sure how IGN could give it a 7.5 in graphics, unless the framerate was incredibly inconsistent.
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#265 Zeliard9
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Yeah, its pretty safe to call this a flop now. No need to even wait for the GS review, really. However I'm still not really sure how IGN could give it a 7.5 in graphics, unless the framerate was incredibly inconsistent.Teufelhuhn

I think Bioshock0wnz has the game and was saying earlier that the framerate is terrible.

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#266 HarlockJC
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Dear God this is worse than red steelmonkeysrfat

that what I was thinking....Now Red Steel does not look has bad of a flop anymore, even if it did suck

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#268 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Yeah, its pretty safe to call this a flop now. No need to even wait for the GS review, really. However I'm still not really sure how IGN could give it a 7.5 in graphics, unless the framerate was incredibly inconsistent.Zeliard9

I think Bioshock0wnz has the game and was saying earlier that the framerate is terrible.

Shame they couldn't fix the framerate. Cell processor FTW?

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#269 Newnab
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Sooo....instead of calling them "Factor 5"...

...can we call them "Factor 4.9" now? :D

Dreams-Visions

:lol:

That's awesome. Yes, let's.

Win. :D

I'm all for this. Shame that Gamespot won't score it 4.9 too because that'd seal the deal...

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#270 jdang307
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Ouch! I was hyped for this game though (Not hyping it, I don't hype games I watch everyone else do it).

Makes my imminent purchase of a 360 that much easier ... where oh where is my Falcon 360?

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#271 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Sooo....instead of calling them "Factor 5"...

...can we call them "Factor 4.9" now? :D

Newnab

:lol:

That's awesome. Yes, let's.

Win. :D

I'm all for this. Shame that Gamespot won't score it 4.9 too because that'd seal the deal...

I miss the .1 system :cry:

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#272 Optusnet
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Why wasn't this game on Wii?

Factor 5 is one of the very few devs that knows Wii's hardware inside and out, so the visuals would hold up(making it trick you Lair is running on next-gen hardware), and the wiimote is a MUCH MUCH better fit than the tacked on gimmick on six axis. Wii is also more popular too.

Wii could've had a solid game in their library, instead of a flop in the PS3's.

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#273 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="Newnab"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Sooo....instead of calling them "Factor 5"...

...can we call them "Factor 4.9" now? :D

Dreams-Visions

:lol:

That's awesome. Yes, let's.

Win. :D

I'm all for this. Shame that Gamespot won't score it 4.9 too because that'd seal the deal...

I miss the .1 system :cry:

I'm telling you guys this new system was put in place for the casual audience. It's more simple. Even the new layout and font looks too simple and plain.:cry:

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#274 books83
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I was hopeing that it would at least be decent. It was one of the few games that made interested in getting a PS3.
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#275 covhunter
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Ouch, and I thought Blue Dragon was a flop. Just need to wait and see if GS scores it that low now.
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#276 Zeliard9
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I'm telling you guys this new system was put in place for the casual audience. It's more simple. Even the new layout and font looks too simple and plain.:cry:

kcpp2b

The new .5 rating system made sense when you considered their reasoning for it, I guess. But I'm sorry, the whole emblem thing just screams "casual newb attention-grabber". Why have an emblem for "great story" when you can simply note that in the review and properly discuss it? To give people even less of a reason to read the review?

Nobody ever even talks about how many positive or negative emblems a game got when a review comes out, much less what they even were. Emblems are something I would've honestly expected from a publication the likes of Maxim magazine. No offense, and stuff.

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#277 tcarruth
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Lair can only be done on the PS3! :lol:

PS3_3DO

I'm no fanboy but THAT IS funny!!!

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#278 daveg1
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ive just canceled my pre-order of this game..

i usaly dont put to much into a review but a score that low you just cant ignore!

i might get it when it goes platinum..cheap as chips in other words.

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#279 Seckzy_Gamer
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I made a little poem about Lair -

Flop flop, fizz fizz, oh what a piece of crap it is

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#280 ShmenonPie
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LOL, Lair. I'm a Cow but I think the bottom line of my sig says it all.
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#281 SgtWhiskeyjack
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Blue Dragon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lair :lol:

I find this extremely funny, not because it was officially hyped as AA by cows, but because of what Factor 5 said about the 360 and developing for it. It just wasn't powerful enough to handle their amazing game :lol: If this is what they can produce then, please don't develope for the 360...or anyone for that matter :lol:

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#282 tonythestudent
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LMAO Cows owned. :lol:

I'm actually afraid for the gamespot review now, hold me :P

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#283 ChinoJamesKeene
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wow, pretty hard fail right there but i was never that hyped for Lair. Oh well.
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#284 Newnab
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Right now I would only buy this game if it came down to budget price. And if they threw in another, better game...

And some cake.

... And Belgium.

[/Yahtzee]

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#285 SSJ_Nega
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I'm really not surprised. Some cows were silly enough to hype this at all, there was one or two cows hyping it GOTY, but smart cows and anyone who is'nt a hardore cow knew this game would be bad.
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#286 Foolz3h
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so it's gonna get a 4.5 here then?

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#287 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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I always feel bad for someone who gives a PS3 exclusive a bad score. If he guy who wrote that decided to see how his review went down by reading the comments he'd take a huge blow to his ego, what with all the "this review is crap and you are crap" comments.
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#288 RevenMan
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Preatty bad for cows. Altough im not a cow this title seemed promising to me and i tought it would atleast get AA i tought the same about Blue Dragon altough i don't like JRPGS i guess i phail at predicting scores lol.
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#289 tango90101
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awww man....where's cobragt and Dire Weasel?

they were soooooo certain of AAA status.....

...just missed it....:lol:

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#290 WuTangG
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Argh why isnt the site coming up
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#291 blacktorn
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My heart goes out for people who bought a ps3 this year...really....well ok not my heart...how about a legg.
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#292 WuTangG
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Hmm can somebody post the summaries at the end, it doesnt seem to be loading up for me = (
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#293 blizzvalve
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Wow. I'm surprised it scored this low.
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#294 apolloluke
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Wow this thread is hilarious.
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#295 WuTangG
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Wow this thread is hilarious.apolloluke
One of the funniest threads in a long time:lol:

Bah why the heck isnt the site coming up!

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#296 SaintBlaze
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Don't they usually overrate games? :lol:
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#297 rocklegacy2
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I'm not surprised. Just what on earth were Factor 5 thinking - to make a game score this low even with their track record? :|
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#298 Bread_or_Decide
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The problem is theirs no way to change Lairs name into a funny flop title.

If you ask me, thats the real problem with that game.

Funny thing about Lair is that we've had so much time to prepare for this flop that its not really shocking as much as it is expected.

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#299 mtradr43
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wow cows, one of your best games this year cant even get A? sounds like another killzone here.
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#300 Danthegamingman
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IGN gives it 4.9/10

EGM gives it 5.5/10

1UP gives it 6/10

your very own Playstation Magazine gives it 5/10

We don't need to wait for Gamespots late and poorly written review to know THIS GAME is TOAST. Hopefully they won't make a sequel to such a disgusting flop.