If console exclusives are released on the pc, are they still a exclusive?

I'm guessing the key word to console exclusive is the word "console", but I am not a fan of the xbox mainly cause I have a powerful gaming computer, and even though games come out later on for the pc, there makes no sense for an xbox to enter my home.  Games look better on my pc then the 360, and they load better on the pc. 

Halo 1, and 2 are not "exclusives" as there is a loop hole in getting it, I am aware they don't launch at the same time, but there not really an exclusive.  I'm aware that microsoft dominates the pc market, so either way they make money.  More of your "exclusives" are being released eventually onto pc.  Lost Planet and Gears of War are also coming to the pc.  

So are all your xbox exclusives really an exclusive, as if I was a fan of Halo, I could play it without owning a big X. 

I dont see whats so complicated about this issue.

A game thats not exclusive is a multiplatform title. How can the same game that can be played on more than one platform be considered exclusive?

If they're released a long time later it doesn't really matter. Halo is essintially an Xbox exclusive like DMC3 is a PS2 exclusive. Games that come out at about the same time with both platforms in mind from the start are definitely not exclusive though.

If they're released a long time later it doesn't really matter. Halo is essintially an Xbox exclusive like DMC3 is a PS2 exclusive. Games that come out at about the same time with both platforms in mind from the start are definitely not exclusive though.

Lazy_Boy88

Whats "a long time"? Like a year and half? 

I think exclusive to consoles is enough to be talked about as exclusive. The pc is a different thing, alot of people just don't play games there. Not that its a worse experience, but consoles serve that purpose for casual gamers imo. It's why they exist.

If you want to get really technical, then no a pc and 360 game is not exclusive to 360. That obviously is not right.

Just my personal opinion, but if a game is PC/360 or PC/PS3 I consider it a console exclusive, as PC does not count as a console and belongs to another class of devices (blah blah, Yeah I know it games). Just my opinion though.Ultimas_Blade

How does it being a "console exclusive" change anything? Its not like it stops anyone from picking up, buying, playing, and enjoying the PC version.

I think exclusive to consoles is enough to be talked about as exclusive. The pc is a different thing, alot of people just don't play games there. Not that its a worse experience, but consoles serve that purpose for casual gamers imo. It's why they exist.

If you want to get really technical, then no a pc and 360 game is not exclusive to 360. That obviously is not right.

whoisryanmack

Hence the reason games like The Sims and WoW have more casual players and sales than 99% of any console title? 

So exclusivity of games is based on how many casuals its fan base has? Are you telling me the 2 or 3 million sales of the PS3 are from casuals despite that being much, much lower than sales of popular casual games? ANd that stops it from the game being playable on more than one platform.

Whats next? A PS3/360 game is a 360 exclusive because even Sony said that the PS3 is a PC? 

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]Just my personal opinion, but if a game is PC/360 or PC/PS3 I consider it a console exclusive, as PC does not count as a console and belongs to another class of devices (blah blah, Yeah I know it games). Just my opinion though.XaosII

How does it being a "console exclusive" change anything? Its not like it stops anyone from picking up, buying, playing, and enjoying the PC version.

That being said, a 'console exclusive' can be multiplatform. But like I said, my opinion.  I never say 'consoles exclusive' on the forums because people counter with the same age old agruement you did.  Nothing against you though....

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]Just my personal opinion, but if a game is PC/360 or PC/PS3 I consider it a console exclusive, as PC does not count as a console and belongs to another class of devices (blah blah, Yeah I know it games). Just my opinion though.Ultimas_Blade

How does it being a "console exclusive" change anything? Its not like it stops anyone from picking up, buying, playing, and enjoying the PC version.

That being said, a 'console exclusive' can be multiplatform. But like I said, my opinion. I never say 'consoles exclusive' on the forums because people counter with the same age old agruement you did. Nothing against you though....

You just stated why saying "console exclusive" is meaningless. It doesnt change anything at all. So it can only be found on one console.....Ok. That means people can still play and enjoy the game without having bought the console. Just like a PS3/360 title being callsed a 360 exclusive doesnt change how its on the PS3 and people can play it there.

No. There is no such thing as a "console exclusive." PC is a unique gaming platform as well.

Game on one platform = exclusive

Game on more than one platform = multiplatformfoxhound_fox

btw, the pc is not a console, therefore it can be a console exclusive. 

It's either excluse or not. 'Console Exclusive' is just a away fanboys try to justify multiplats' that are only on their console and pc.GundamGuy0

Conversely though, obliterating the idea of console exclusive is a way for the fanboys on the other side of the fence to claim ownage and so forth.

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]

I think exclusive to consoles is enough to be talked about as exclusive. The pc is a different thing, alot of people just don't play games there. Not that its a worse experience, but consoles serve that purpose for casual gamers imo. It's why they exist.

If you want to get really technical, then no a pc and 360 game is not exclusive to 360. That obviously is not right.

XaosII

Hence the reason games like The Sims and WoW have more casual players and sales than 99% of any console title? 

So exclusivity of games is based on how many casuals its fan base has? Are you telling me the 2 or 3 million sales of the PS3 are from casuals despite that being much, much lower than sales of popular casual games? ANd that stops it from the game being playable on more than one platform.

Whats next? A PS3/360 game is a 360 exclusive because even Sony said that the PS3 is a PC? 

If you don't get my drift I really can't explain it. You'll logically argue all day and think you're winning, but all I'm saying is that there are alot of instances where a game will be more likely played on a console. Its just more accessible for alot of people. So why not just say its exclusive, the consoles aren't competing with pc's anyway.

..and yes, any argument about consoles is about casuals. Anyone, like you or I, who would actually care enough to discuss this are in the extreme minority. 

I dont see whats so complicated about this issue.

A game thats not exclusive is a multiplatform title. How can the same game that can be played on more than one platform be considered exclusive?

XaosII

enough said thread over.

The technical answer is no. The actual answer is simple. It's exclusive in the console market, which is in direct competition, whereas the pc and console market are not in direct competion. You may have a powerful gaming computer, but the bottom line is most people don't. Console games sell about 4 times as much as computer games. And if you look at the top selling games for PC and the top selling games for console, you can see that are so completely unrelated that it can be logically argued that PC gamers commonly don't buy console games and console gamers don't buy PC games.

/thread. 

Ya I thought it sounded like fanboys like saying that, but  I stand by my saying I don't need an xbox if I have a good computer.  silversurfergold

well than u could argue that theres almost no exclusives whatsoever, cuz they get severely restricted and truncated versions of those games on psp and ds.

btw, the pc is not a console, therefore it can be a console exclusive.

Big_T-Mac

I'm guessing the key word to console exclusive is the word "console", but I am not a fan of the xbox mainly cause I have a powerful gaming computer, and even though games come out later on for the pc, there makes no sense for an xbox to enter my home.  Games look better on my pc then the 360, and they load better on the pc. 

Halo 1, and 2 are not "exclusives" as there is a loop hole in getting it, I am aware they don't launch at the same time, but there not really an exclusive.  I'm aware that microsoft dominates the pc market, so either way they make money.  More of your "exclusives" are being released eventually onto pc.  Lost Planet and Gears of War are also coming to the pc.  

So are all your xbox exclusives really an exclusive, as if I was a fan of Halo, I could play it without owning a big X. 

silversurfergold

Of course they are still exclusive to CONSOLE, as obviously is the case, who here thinks we should call FF7 and FF8 multiplatforms ?

[QUOTE="silversurfergold"]

I'm guessing the key word to console exclusive is the word "console", but I am not a fan of the xbox mainly cause I have a powerful gaming computer, and even though games come out later on for the pc, there makes no sense for an xbox to enter my home. Games look better on my pc then the 360, and they load better on the pc.

Halo 1, and 2 are not "exclusives" as there is a loop hole in getting it, I am aware they don't launch at the same time, but there not really an exclusive. I'm aware that microsoft dominates the pc market, so either way they make money. More of your "exclusives" are being released eventually onto pc. Lost Planet and Gears of War are also coming to the pc.

So are all your xbox exclusives really an exclusive, as if I was a fan of Halo, I could play it without owning a big X.

greg_splicer

Of course they are still exclusive to CONSOLE, as obviously is the case, who here thinks we should call FF7 and FF8 multiplatforms ?

FF7 and 8 are muliplatform games.... 

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]Just my personal opinion, but if a game is PC/360 or PC/PS3 I consider it a console exclusive, as PC does not count as a console and belongs to another class of devices (blah blah, Yeah I know it games). Just my opinion though.XaosII

How does it being a "console exclusive" change anything? Its not like it stops anyone from picking up, buying, playing, and enjoying the PC version.

That being said, a 'console exclusive' can be multiplatform. But like I said, my opinion. I never say 'consoles exclusive' on the forums because people counter with the same age old agruement you did. Nothing against you though....

You just stated why saying "console exclusive" is meaningless. It doesnt change anything at all. So it can only be found on one console.....Ok. That means people can still play and enjoy the game without having bought the console. Just like a PS3/360 title being callsed a 360 exclusive doesnt change how its on the PS3 and people can play it there.

Besides, with microsoft trying to combine the 360/PC communities with that Live Anywhere stuff, why not have a term like Console exclusive?

[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]well than u could argue that theres almost no exclusives whatsoever, cuz they get severely restricted and truncated versions of those games on psp and ds.

btw, the pc is not a console, therefore it can be a console exclusive.

foxhound_fox

therefore if its exclusive to a single console, its console exclusive.

What power does a exlusive game have in the gaming world? It forces you to buy a console for the game...

What power does a "console exclusive" game have.... none what so ever. 

So such a term is meaninless...

might as well add a "true-nextgen console exclusive" to argue againts Wii... oh and every Wii game is "new gen exclusives"... 

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]well than u could argue that theres almost no exclusives whatsoever, cuz they get severely restricted and truncated versions of those games on psp and ds.

btw, the pc is not a console, therefore it can be a console exclusive.

Big_T-Mac

therefore if its exclusive to a single console, its console exclusive.

i don't remember console exclusive meaning gaming platform exclusive. console means console, not gaming platform.

therefore if its exclusive to a single console, its console exclusive.

Big_T-Mac

[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]well than u could argue that theres almost no exclusives whatsoever, cuz they get severely restricted and truncated versions of those games on psp and ds.

btw, the pc is not a console, therefore it can be a console exclusive.

Ultimas_Blade

therefore if its exclusive to a single console, its console exclusive.

[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]i don't remember console exclusive meaning gaming platform exclusive. console means console, not gaming platform.

therefore if its exclusive to a single console, its console exclusive.

foxhound_fox

What power does a exlusive game have in the gaming world? It forces you to buy a console for the game...

What power does a "console exclusive" game have.... none what so ever.

So such a term is meaninless...

might as well add a "true-nextgen console exclusive" to argue againts Wii... oh and every Wii game is "new gen exclusives"...

AntiType

Actually a console exclusive game is VERY powerful, since the same games that sell highly for console usually don't for pc. two different markets, and console games sell about 4 times as much as computer games and are the bigger market.

/thread. 

[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]i don't remember console exclusive meaning gaming platform exclusive. console means console, not gaming platform.

therefore if its exclusive to a single console, its console exclusive.

foxhound_fox

 btw, no one said bioshock was "gaming platform" exclusive to 360, just console exclusive.

If you don't get my drift I really can't explain it. You'll logically argue all day and think you're winning, but all I'm saying is that there are alot of instances where a game will be more likely played on a console. Its just more accessible for alot of people. So why not just say its exclusive, the consoles aren't competing with pc's anyway.

..and yes, any argument about consoles is about casuals. Anyone, like you or I, who would actually care enough to discuss this are in the extreme minority.

whoisryanmack

Very compelling argument you have! Why would it be considered exclusive?

"Oh i dont know. You're logic seems to make sense but my ramblings about how a game on more than one platform should be considered exclusive is right, because you are wrong."

Accesibility does not change how its the same game on more than one platform. Get over it. More copies of FEAR sold on the PC than the 360 or PS3. That doesnt make it a PC exclusive.

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

What power does a exlusive game have in the gaming world? It forces you to buy a console for the game...

What power does a "console exclusive" game have.... none what so ever.

So such a term is meaninless...

might as well add a "true-nextgen console exclusive" to argue againts Wii... oh and every Wii game is "new gen exclusives"...

shsonline

Actually a console exclusive game is VERY powerful, since the same games that sell highly for console usually don't for pc. two different markets, and console games sell about 4 times as much as computer games and are the bigger market.

/thread.

How can you say they are a different market? I have a PC and therefor have no need to buy a 360... if there was no gaming pcs... I would have bought a 360... there you are... Same market

Oh.... and there are more PC users then there are ps3 users... right? so I guess PS3 games dont count becuase there are 50 times more pcs gamers out there... right? cuz its about sales! RE4 is GC exclusive!! cuz it sold like crap on PS2!!

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]If you don't get my drift I really can't explain it. You'll logically argue all day and think you're winning, but all I'm saying is that there are alot of instances where a game will be more likely played on a console. Its just more accessible for alot of people. So why not just say its exclusive, the consoles aren't competing with pc's anyway.

..and yes, any argument about consoles is about casuals. Anyone, like you or I, who would actually care enough to discuss this are in the extreme minority.

XaosII

Very compelling argument you have! Why would it be considered exclusive?

"Oh i dont know. You're logic seems to make sense but my ramblings about how a game on more than one platform should be considered exclusive is right, because you are wrong."

Accesibility does not change how its the same game on more than one platform. Get over it. More copies of FEAR sold on the PC than the 360 or PS3. That doesnt make it a PC exclusive.

The technical answer is no. The actual answer is simple. It's exclusive in the console market, which is in direct competition, whereas the pc and console market are not in direct competion. You may have a powerful gaming computer, but the bottom line is most people don't. Console games sell about 4 times as much as computer games. And if you look at the top selling games for PC and the top selling games for console, you can see that are so completely unrelated that it can be logically argued that PC gamers commonly don't buy console games and console gamers don't buy PC games.

 

/thread.

shsonline

Why hello there mister "It doesnt matter what platform its on. A good game is a good game." Well, i guess it does if we are talking about the platform that you dont like. 

How can you say they are a different market? I have a PC and therefor have no need to buy a 360... if there was no gaming pcs... I would have bought a 360... there you are... Same market

Oh.... and there are more PC users then there are ps3 users... right? so I guess PS3 games dont count becuase there are 50 times more pcs gamers out there... right? cuz its about sales! RE4 is GC exclusive!! cuz it sold like crap on PS2!!

AntiType

But anyway the PC is NOT a console, therefore further validating the term 'console exclusive'.

[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]If you don't get my drift I really can't explain it. You'll logically argue all day and think you're winning, but all I'm saying is that there are alot of instances where a game will be more likely played on a console. Its just more accessible for alot of people. So why not just say its exclusive, the consoles aren't competing with pc's anyway.

..and yes, any argument about consoles is about casuals. Anyone, like you or I, who would actually care enough to discuss this are in the extreme minority.

XaosII

Very compelling argument you have! Why would it be considered exclusive?

"Oh i dont know. You're logic seems to make sense but my ramblings about how a game on more than one platform should be considered exclusive is right, because you are wrong."

Accesibility does not change how its the same game on more than one platform. Get over it. More copies of FEAR sold on the PC than the 360 or PS3. That doesnt make it a PC exclusive.

The main point I have is chill out. I said the exact same thing you are saying in my first post. It isn't technically exclusive. Some people just aren't really anal about every detail of facthood. In my view, coming on SW and calling something exclusive means consoles. I don't consider pc's as competitors to consoles.

speaking of getting over things....

[QUOTE="AntiType"]

How can you say they are a different market? I have a PC and therefor have no need to buy a 360... if there was no gaming pcs... I would have bought a 360... there you are... Same market

Oh.... and there are more PC users then there are ps3 users... right? so I guess PS3 games dont count becuase there are 50 times more pcs gamers out there... right? cuz its about sales! RE4 is GC exclusive!! cuz it sold like crap on PS2!!

Ultimas_Blade

But anyway the PC is NOT a console, therefore further validating the term 'console exclusive'.

The term Console exclusive holds no water. Thats the point.

Should have also have "Japanese Console Exlusives" for games that only come out on Ps3 and Wii? 

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="AntiType"]

How can you say they are a different market? I have a PC and therefor have no need to buy a 360... if there was no gaming pcs... I would have bought a 360... there you are... Same market

Oh.... and there are more PC users then there are ps3 users... right? so I guess PS3 games dont count becuase there are 50 times more pcs gamers out there... right? cuz its about sales! RE4 is GC exclusive!! cuz it sold like crap on PS2!!

AntiType

But anyway the PC is NOT a console, therefore further validating the term 'console exclusive'.

The term Console exclusive holds no water. Thats the point.

Should have also have "Japanese Console Exlusives" for games that only come out on Ps3 and Wii? 

[QUOTE="XaosII"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"]If you don't get my drift I really can't explain it. You'll logically argue all day and think you're winning, but all I'm saying is that there are alot of instances where a game will be more likely played on a console. Its just more accessible for alot of people. So why not just say its exclusive, the consoles aren't competing with pc's anyway.

..and yes, any argument about consoles is about casuals. Anyone, like you or I, who would actually care enough to discuss this are in the extreme minority.

whoisryanmack

Very compelling argument you have! Why would it be considered exclusive?

"Oh i dont know. You're logic seems to make sense but my ramblings about how a game on more than one platform should be considered exclusive is right, because you are wrong."

Accesibility does not change how its the same game on more than one platform. Get over it. More copies of FEAR sold on the PC than the 360 or PS3. That doesnt make it a PC exclusive.

The main point I have is chill out. I said the exact same thing you are saying in my first post. It isn't technically exclusive. Some people just aren't really anal about every detail of facthood. In my view, coming on SW and calling something exclusive means consoles. I don't consider pc's as competitors to consoles.

speaking of getting over things....

this is SYSTEM WARS not CONSOLE WARS... if you have not noticed... PC games are talked about as much as any console here. Leave your own baseless views on whos in what market at the door. 

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="AntiType"]

How can you say they are a different market? I have a PC and therefor have no need to buy a 360... if there was no gaming pcs... I would have bought a 360... there you are... Same market

Oh.... and there are more PC users then there are ps3 users... right? so I guess PS3 games dont count becuase there are 50 times more pcs gamers out there... right? cuz its about sales! RE4 is GC exclusive!! cuz it sold like crap on PS2!!

AntiType

But anyway the PC is NOT a console, therefore further validating the term 'console exclusive'.

The term Console exclusive holds no water. Thats the point.

Should have also have "Japanese Console Exlusives" for games that only come out on Ps3 and Wii?

Sure it does. If a game is only coming out on one console then it holds an advantage for that console. That means the only other way you can get the game is if you have a gaming PC. There is an advantage to that.

[QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="AntiType"]

How can you say they are a different market? I have a PC and therefor have no need to buy a 360... if there was no gaming pcs... I would have bought a 360... there you are... Same market

Oh.... and there are more PC users then there are ps3 users... right? so I guess PS3 games dont count becuase there are 50 times more pcs gamers out there... right? cuz its about sales! RE4 is GC exclusive!! cuz it sold like crap on PS2!!

shsonline

But anyway the PC is NOT a console, therefore further validating the term 'console exclusive'.

The term Console exclusive holds no water. Thats the point.

Should have also have "Japanese Console Exlusives" for games that only come out on Ps3 and Wii?

Sure it does. If a game is only coming out on one console then it holds an advantage for that console. That means the only other way you can get the game is if you have a gaming PC. There is an advantage to that.