How are Nintendo still around?

I love a good Nintendo game as much as the next man, heck my 2 favorite games of all time are mario 64 and Zelda OOT but it just seems that Nintendo games are not moving forward at all, sure they stil make some decent titles but for the most part they're completely unchanged from the games that they made 20 years ago.

Sega had a much better track record and they ended up going the software way and yet Nintendo are still around?

I don't get it.... :(

When talking about Sega's track record, what about Sonic?

nintendos handhelds say hi ...

Gimmicks/"innovations" and well made games in established franchises.
Thier games may not be as revolutionary as they once were but they still dish out top notch quality and fun titles.

because they were number one in sales in both the console race and handheld race?

that MAAAY have something to do with it...sales and money...but hey, i'm no doctor

At this point, that's what I'm ready to ask. For reasons why, I'm not repeating myself as SW'ers are annoyed by me enough already.

Why change to formula when your games sell by the bucket load?

1) Outsell your competition.

2) Drop out of the console race.

3) ???

4) Make dumb system warriors happy!

It's all in the name :o especially in Japan.

Just sayin. :P

I love a good Nintendo game as much as the next man, heck my 2 favorite games of all time are mario 64 and Zelda OOT but it just seems that Nintendo games are not moving forward at all, sure they stil make some decent titles but for the most part they're completely unchanged from the games that they made 20 years ago.

Sega had a much better track record and they ended up going the software way and yet Nintendo are still around?

I don't get it.... :(

mrfrosty151986

Lol what?

Because they keep changing their games up, they can be around for a long time. Their IP's don't grow stale nearly as fast as IP's of other dev/publishers.

They make a ton of money, most of there games and systems sell bucket loads.

Because they keep changing their games up, they can be around for a long time. Their IP's don't grow stale nearly as fast as IP's of other dev/publishers.

KungfuKitten

Its simple... There are casual gamers. Like most of the people on this website. These people usually own just one console and they live and breathe that console. They may own a couple games, and they love anything they have played. Then you have the I used to be a casual gamer/I want to be hip gamers who are either aging Nintendo fans, or parents who want their kids to play a cleaner product devoid of violence and harsh language. This is unfortunately Nintendos market... The "even bigger than casual" audience... lol

I hope Nintendo mixes it up with the Wii U, but I dont really see why they would... I mean they have about half the gaming community under their thumb.

I dunno, I found the Mario Galaxy games and Skyward Sword to be some of the freshest mainstream games, if not the freshest this entire gen. They're old franchises, but they're hardly cut and paste. Nintendo is constantly reinventing and adding to their old franchises and the reason their still around is because they own the handheld market and constantly innovate the console space.

This is a joke thread, right? They are at the top and some people at SW really have such questions. King_Dodongo

not everybody has been gaming for 20 years.

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Because they keep changing their games up, they can be around for a long time. Their IP's don't grow stale nearly as fast as IP's of other dev/publishers.

delta3074

nostalgia is their main weapon. And now the casual market they captured ith the Wii but those are now flocking to Kinect....

Nintendo is facing serious issues with download content. It could ultimately be their demise.Heirren

not everybody has been gaming for 20 years.

CaseyWegner

You say that they are the same franchises, but think about it, Zelda is 26 years old and there have only been Zelda, Zelda II, A link to the past, OOT, Majoras Mask, Wind Waker, Twighlight Princess and Skyward Sword on their major consoles. Thats 8 Zelda games in the last 26 years, compare that to many of todays franchises, their have been COD, CODII, CODIII, CODMW, CODWOW, CODMW2, CODBO, CODMW3, CODBO2 since 2003, thats 9 games in 9 years. Uncharted came out in 2007 and already have 3 entries. Gears since 2007 has also had 3 main titles.

My point being is that Nintendo SPACES out their releases, we really only get a Main Zelda title every 4 or so years. Same goes with 3-D mario and even less titles in the Metroid Universe. Donkey Kong only have 5 games total since DKC. And Nintendo always releases top notch quality releases.

Nintendo just knows not to stray to far from the formula that made the games great to begin with. If they changed it dramatically they would probobly get tons of backlash. Now if they releases a Zelda every single year, then yes, it would be a problem.

Sure, I would love nintendo take a few things from Darksiders II and intergrate them into the next Zelda Title, giving it some more RPG elements. But even if it's still Classic Zelda, it's still very enjoyable.

Nintendo has been making enough money to stay in business. It doesn't matter what you think of their games.

Sometimes I wonder why people are so stupid. Miroku32

It's system wars, chaos,stupidity and mayhem run rampant here.

1. strong, loyal fanbase

2. Parents think of nintendo as the disney of the VG industry.

3. relatively cheap hardware = high profit margins

1. strong, loyal fanbase

MFDOOM1983

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1. strong, loyal fanbase

nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

1. strong, loyal fanbase

MFDOOM1983

Because their 1st party games ACTUALLY SELLS

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1. strong, loyal fanbase

MFDOOM1983

Yeah you have to be loyal to drop $300 on a 8GB system, I thought it was bad when MS did that for the 4GB 360 but at least it's $100 cheaper, nether of those will store worth a darn:?

Now that I think about it the $500 40GB PS3 was also a rip off...

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] You'd have to be loyal to buy wii-u after gc and wii. MFDOOM1983

You were saying?

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] You'd also have to like them for whatever they do as well, but Ninty having a Broken, Unpleaseable Base proves that wrong on so many levels.nintendoboy16

You were saying?

Edit: "F-Zero: Maximum Velocity went on to sell 334,145 copies in Japan and 273,229 copies in the U.S. as of 2005." Not too shabby for a gba game. Didn't find anything for the sequel, but the first sold enough to warrant another title.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]Nintendo is facing serious issues with download content. It could ultimately be their demise.Nintendo_Ownes7

You say that they are the same franchises, but think about it, Zelda is 26 years old and there have only been Zelda, Zelda II, A link to the past, OOT, Majoras Mask, Wind Waker, Twighlight Princess and Skyward Sword on their major consoles. Thats 8 Zelda games in the last 26 years, compare that to many of todays franchises, their have been COD, CODII, CODIII, CODMW, CODWOW, CODMW2, CODBO, CODMW3, CODBO2 since 2003, thats 9 games in 9 years. Uncharted came out in 2007 and already have 3 entries. Gears since 2007 has also had 3 main titles.

My point being is that Nintendo SPACES out their releases, we really only get a Main Zelda title every 4 or so years. Same goes with 3-D mario and even less titles in the Metroid Universe. Donkey Kong only have 5 games total since DKC. And Nintendo always releases top notch quality releases.

Nintendo just knows not to stray to far from the formula that made the games great to begin with. If they changed it dramatically they would probobly get tons of backlash. Now if they releases a Zelda every single year, then yes, it would be a problem.

Sure, I would love nintendo take a few things from Darksiders II and intergrate them into the next Zelda Title, giving it some more RPG elements. But even if it's still Classic Zelda, it's still very enjoyable.

ryangcnx-2

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]I doubt nintendo cares how much their fanbase cries foul because at the end of the day they'll buy whatever nintendo throws at them as long as it has mario, zelda, metroid, etc. MFDOOM1983

You were saying?

Edit: "F-Zero: Maximum Velocity went on to sell 334,145 copies in Japan and 273,229 copies in the U.S. as of 2005." Not too shabby for a gba game. Didn't find anything for the sequel, but the first sold enough to warrant another title.

F-Zero on SNES sold a million.

Star Fox 64 is regarded as one of the best selling games of 1997, Star Fox Adventures sold a million, and Assault was considered to be a best-seller on the GameCube. Star Fox 64 3D was one of the top-selling 3DS games of last year in North America, and that was a game that Miyamoto said that if it didn't sell well, he'd kill off the franchise (though Dylan Cuthbert thinks he's bluffing).

Doesn't matter if Other M wasn't developed by Nintendo (despite Yoshio Sakamoto's main involvement with the storyline, which ended up being the most controversial part of that game), that game still messed up a lot of things for the Metroid franchise for both fans and Nintendo, it may as well be like F-Zero (after 64 3D doing well in America, Star Fox's fate is up in the air) and end up as nothing more than reference material.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]Nintendo is facing serious issues with download content. It could ultimately be their demise.Heirren