High Priced Next Gen Consoles Won't sell ? Orrr Will They. :P

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#1 Posted by SecretPolice (23902 posts) -

So, anyone saying high priced consoles will fail because of the weak economies and such, what ya think about this?

Seems people will splurge for things they want even with the economic woes but wait, perhaps they already gave all their money to Apple and have nothing left for MS & Sony. :shock: :P

Anyhoo, discuss if you wish.

The Story.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-24-apples-gala-christmas-48-million-iphones-23-million-ipads-sold

Apple's Gala Christmas: 48 million iPhones, 23 million iPads sold

Cash mountain rises to £86.6 billion.

Apple had a Gala Christmas, harvesting a juicy profit of $13.1 billion in three months.

In that three-month period (Apple's Q1) Apple sold 47.8 million iPhones, 22.9 million iPads, 4.1 million Macs and more than 2 million Apple TVs.

smaug

Tim Cook must be Smaug.

The iPad is selling at such a rate now that it could top 90 million sales in 2013, noted GamesIndustry.biz. In one year, then, the iPad could easily outstrip lifetime sales of PS3 or 360, and roughly match that of Wii.

The iPhone numbers are even more ridiculous. It could do as many as 200 million sales in 2013.

Apple, during the same period last year, sold 37 million iPhones, 15.4 million iPads, 5.2 million Macs and around 1.2 million Apple TVs.

Apple noted that more than 40 billion apps had been downloaded (ever) and more than $7 billion paid out to developers of them. Games are top dog so presumably a lot of that money went there.

Despite the overwhelming success of iDevices, Apple's stock dropped by over 10 per cent after the financial report was aired. That's because investors are worried about dwindling Mac sales.

Apple's Tim Cook was "incredibly excited" about the year to come, and Apple's "very full" product pipeline it has planned.

Don't look now, but Apple's cash pile is so big now - $137.1 billion (£86.6 billion) - it may need a dragon like Smaug to defend it.

#2 Posted by funsohng (28994 posts) -
Yeah but I feel sexy when I have an iPhone or iPad. XBOX doesn't make me feel sexy. Does it make you feel sexy? Probably not. People spend a lot of money to things that will make them look sexy.
#3 Posted by AmnesiaHaze (5683 posts) -
[QUOTE="funsohng"]Yeah but I feel sexy when I have an iPhone or iPad. XBOX doesn't make me feel sexy. Does it make you feel sexy? Probably not. People spend a lot of money to things that will make them look sexy.

iphone sexy? its more of a sign of wasting money than sexiness to me
#4 Posted by Chozofication (4380 posts) -

Yeah but I feel sexy when I have an iPhone or iPad. XBOX doesn't make me feel sexy. Does it make you feel sexy? Probably not. People spend a lot of money to things that will make them look sexy.funsohng

Is this really why people buy these things?

#5 Posted by funsohng (28994 posts) -

[QUOTE="funsohng"]Yeah but I feel sexy when I have an iPhone or iPad. XBOX doesn't make me feel sexy. Does it make you feel sexy? Probably not. People spend a lot of money to things that will make them look sexy.Chozofication

Is this really why people buy these things?

I bought my 4S to feel sexy. I like being sexy.
#6 Posted by DISSESHOWEDO (1775 posts) -

Apple is a BS company! Releasing every year the most overpriced products with little improvements ! Thnx but no thnx !

#7 Posted by SecretPolice (23902 posts) -

Yeah but I feel sexy when I have an iPhone or iPad. XBOX doesn't make me feel sexy. Does it make you feel sexy? Probably not. People spend a lot of money to things that will make them look sexy.funsohng
Depending on the people playing; playing and or watching others play Kinect 2 in the nude could be pretty sexy. :shock:

Orrr, Not !!! :twisted:

#8 Posted by funsohng (28994 posts) -

[QUOTE="funsohng"]Yeah but I feel sexy when I have an iPhone or iPad. XBOX doesn't make me feel sexy. Does it make you feel sexy? Probably not. People spend a lot of money to things that will make them look sexy.SecretPolice

Depending on the people playing; playing and or watching others play Kinect 2 in the nude could be pretty sexy. :shock:

Orrr, Not !!! :twisted:

I think playing Move in the nude is much more sexy than Kinect. ..... ok I think we should stop here, I really don't want to risk another suspension.
#9 Posted by AmnesiaHaze (5683 posts) -
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]Yeah but I feel sexy when I have an iPhone or iPad. XBOX doesn't make me feel sexy. Does it make you feel sexy? Probably not. People spend a lot of money to things that will make them look sexy.funsohng

Depending on the people playing; playing and or watching others play Kinect 2 in the nude could be pretty sexy. :shock:

Orrr, Not !!! :twisted:

I think playing Move in the nude is much more sexy than Kinect. ..... ok I think we should stop here, I really don't want to risk another suspension.

that move controller shape lol
#10 Posted by RR360DD (13100 posts) -
I wouldn't expect you neckbeards to understand what it means to own an apple device
#11 Posted by nameless12345 (15125 posts) -

If they're 599 US dollars, only hardcore cows and lems will buy them.

So they better not be.

#12 Posted by SecretPolice (23902 posts) -

If they're 599 US dollars, only hardcore cows and lems will buy them.

So they better not be.

nameless12345

That's likely correct - the sweet spot for me would be HW worth that much but sold for $499.99. :D :P

#13 Posted by Chozofication (4380 posts) -

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

If they're 599 US dollars, only hardcore cows and lems will buy them.

So they better not be.

SecretPolice

That's likely correct - the sweet spot for me would be HW worth that much but sold for $499.99. :D :P

Yeah, I would gladly pay $500 for something as quality as the first PS3 models. Except they'll be better because they won't make heat like a radiator. That's what I expect to pay for something that doesn't cut corners, but the cheaper the better!

#14 Posted by Basinboy (11489 posts) -

It's all relative. If a PS4/Durango can't display any significant competitive advantages, asking a consumer to pay more than $400 will not result kindly. But if it can, $500 may be in the realm of reasonableness.

#15 Posted by BPoole96 (22814 posts) -

I wouldn't expect you neckbeards to understand what it means to own an apple deviceRR360DD

Please explain. I own an iPhone and am on a MacBook right now and frankly I can not wait until my 2 year contract for my phone expires (this september) and my MacBook stops working so I have a good excuse to buy new laptop (definitely not a MacBook again).

Both are overpriced and underperforming. This laptop costed me $1300 when I bought it, which is more than I paid for my gaming PC. This thing can barely run Portal 1. Owning an Apple products means nothing more than that you simply own an Apple product.

#16 Posted by SecretPolice (23902 posts) -

It's all relative. If a PS4/Durango can't display any significant competitive advantages, asking a consumer to pay more than $400 will not result kindly. But if it can, $500 may be in the realm of reasonableness.

Basinboy

It's all a matter of nice bang for the buck and if they deliver on that, me thinks out of the I dunno, 150 million of us that own 360 / PS3, there's at least about 30-40 mil that are very tired of this gen ( I had 360 since early 2006 ) and will jump to next gen within the first 6 months / year of release. :shock: But again, much depends on what's offered, at what price. :cool:

#17 Posted by RR360DD (13100 posts) -

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I wouldn't expect you neckbeards to understand what it means to own an apple deviceBPoole96

Please explain. I own an iPhone and am on a MacBook right now and frankly I can not wait until my 2 year contract for my phone expires (this september) and my MacBook stops working so I have a good excuse to buy new laptop (definitely not a MacBook again).

Both are overpriced and underperforming. This laptop costed me $1300 when I bought it, which is more than I paid for my gaming PC. This thing can barely run Portal 1. Owning an Apple products means nothing more than that you simply own an Apple product.

I really hope you didn't buy a macbook to game on -_-

I work in the design industry, so owning a macbook makes sense. I also have a 6 year old macbook that still runs like a dream. I never have any issues with it, which is a lot more than I can say about my gaming PC i had a few years back (until I binned it when the motherboard failed). My mum has an andoid tablet and phone, the UI is hilariously bad. Again, Ill take simplicity and ease of use over android / windows.

I don't understand the hate apple gets around here. Google are far more shady, yet you all cream yourselves over them.

#18 Posted by BPoole96 (22814 posts) -

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I wouldn't expect you neckbeards to understand what it means to own an apple deviceRR360DD

Please explain. I own an iPhone and am on a MacBook right now and frankly I can not wait until my 2 year contract for my phone expires (this september) and my MacBook stops working so I have a good excuse to buy new laptop (definitely not a MacBook again).

Both are overpriced and underperforming. This laptop costed me $1300 when I bought it, which is more than I paid for my gaming PC. This thing can barely run Portal 1. Owning an Apple products means nothing more than that you simply own an Apple product.

I really hope you didn't buy a macbook to game on -_-

I work in the design industry, so owning a macbook makes sense. I also have a 6 year old macbook that still runs like a dream. I never have any issues with it, which is a lot more than I can say about my gaming PC i had a few years back (until I binned it when the motherboard failed). My mum has an andoid tablet and phone, the UI is hilariously bad. Again, Ill take simplicity and ease of use over android / windows.

I don't understand the hate apple gets around here. Google are far more shady, yet you all cream yourselves over them.

I did not buy it to game on. I bought it with money I got from graduating back in '08 and I was dumb at the time and actually took advice from people without doing my own research and everyone had me convinced that Macs were the best. I will say that it has held up over the years, but it definitely was not worth the money I paid for it.

But what exactly does it mean to own an Apple product? I must be a neckbeard because I do not understand the symbolic meaning owning a particular device that over 100 million people own. It isn't like it's some exclusive item that only certain people are allowed to have.

#19 Posted by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -
i have zero plans buy any console ATM. i stick with my pc. They going have to impress me big time..
#20 Posted by clr84651 (5556 posts) -

I think if PS4 and Xbox 3 were priced no higher than $450 they would sell well. Above that sales would be much slower.

#21 Posted by Senor_Kami (8446 posts) -
They'll sell well at launch because launch buyers will buy anything at any price. I can see some super expensive $599 model for people who can't help but throw money at a company but the reasonable one that they actually expect the average joe to buy being $350-$399
#22 Posted by dramaybaz (6020 posts) -
Market well, and you can sell idiots anything.
#23 Posted by Heil68 (48307 posts) -
The price of the God Station 4 is inconsequential to me. Day 1.
#24 Posted by GamerwillzPS (8531 posts) -

Yeah but I feel sexy when I have an iPhone or iPad. XBOX doesn't make me feel sexy. Does it make you feel sexy? Probably not. People spend a lot of money to things that will make them look sexy.funsohng

Overpriced Apple products... Why?

#25 Posted by mariokart64fan (19805 posts) -

a 600 dollar xbox and ps seams likely and it would help nintendo and hurt them

#26 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (17828 posts) -

$300 or no deal.

#27 Posted by lostrib (44000 posts) -

But those items serve a number of purposes, including work related. In addition, iPhones are often subsidised with a contract

#28 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (9634 posts) -

The price of the God Station 4 is inconsequential to me. Day 1.Heil68

And when the specs and price release, say hello to your new upgraded PC

#29 Posted by ShoTTyMcNaDeS (2752 posts) -
$399 is my limit unless there is simply some overwhelming reason for me to spend more. Put it to you this way, in order for me to drop more than $400 at launch of either the next XBOX or PS4, there will have to be games that will give me that first time experience that Halo CE, RE, Splinter Cell and Tomb Raider did back in the day. Im not going to drop $500 for a shinier Halo or Madden with better grass and sky!
#30 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -
i'd pay a premium for the ps4
#31 Posted by SecretPolice (23902 posts) -

i'd pay a premium for the ps4campzor
Sight unseen ? :shock: Don't tell me we gotta another Heil on our hands ? :P

#32 Posted by layton2012 (3489 posts) -
$350 is the magic price for good launch sales. $500 or above is just asking to fail.
#33 Posted by archvile_78 (8384 posts) -

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]Yeah but I feel sexy when I have an iPhone or iPad. XBOX doesn't make me feel sexy. Does it make you feel sexy? Probably not. People spend a lot of money to things that will make them look sexy.funsohng

Is this really why people buy these things?

I bought my 4S to feel sexy. I like being sexy.

but but...you're always sexy!

#34 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -

[QUOTE="campzor"]i'd pay a premium for the ps4SecretPolice

Sight unseen ? :shock: Don't tell me we gotta another Heil on our hands ? :P

ps3 was around $680-700 when i bought it in 08. I can see that price for the LAUNCH.
#35 Posted by Cranler (8809 posts) -
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]i'd pay a premium for the ps4campzor

Sight unseen ? :shock: Don't tell me we gotta another Heil on our hands ? :P

ps3 was around $680-700 when i bought it in 08. I can see that price for the LAUNCH.

The price was that high because of Blu ray. No way PS 4 will be even close the PS 3 launch price.
#36 Posted by layton2012 (3489 posts) -
[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Sight unseen ? :shock: Don't tell me we gotta another Heil on our hands ? :PCranler
ps3 was around $680-700 when i bought it in 08. I can see that price for the LAUNCH.

The price was that high because of Blu ray. No way PS 4 will be even close the PS 3 launch price.

Agreed m, blu ray increases the price a bunch some he was brand new in 2006, I'm guessing 400-500 for PS4.
#37 Posted by RyanShazam (6498 posts) -
Why do people dog on Apple for releasing new Phones every year? EVERY OTHER COMPANY DOES IT!
#38 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -
[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="campzor"] ps3 was around $680-700 when i bought it in 08. I can see that price for the LAUNCH.

The price was that high because of Blu ray. No way PS 4 will be even close the PS 3 launch price.

Agreed m, blu ray increases the price a bunch some he was brand new in 2006, I'm guessing 400-500 for PS4.

Then that is great, as I would definitely welcome a $550-650(AU) ps4 launch, however we are unsure if sony will 'add' anything which will increase the cost.
#39 Posted by senses_fail_06 (6768 posts) -

My letter to Sony.

Mr Hirai,

I will pay whatever for PS4. I will put a second mortgage on my house, sell one of my vital organs, or have my wife do "favors" for others. I want to work hard for the PS4, that way I will know what it means to have the privilege to own such a great device.

XOXO

- S_F_06

P.S. Tell Jack to add me on PSN.

#40 Posted by psymon100 (6835 posts) -

Good question Secret Police.

I think that one of those consoles is going to have the largest launch of all time.

They just need to offer great value. Take something simple like controller backwards compatibility. If on launch there were a racing game with 4-player split screen, it would be great to get going without buying an additional 3x new controllers.

Cost and value are not the same.

#41 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -

Good question Secret Police.

I think that one of those consoles is going to have the largest launch of all time.

They just need to offer great value. Take something simple like controller backwards compatibility. If on launch there were a racing game with 4-player split screen, it would be great to get going without buying an additional 3x new controllers.

Cost and value are not the same.

psymon100
i would be pretty disappointed if i cant use my 2 dualshocks with the ps4.
#42 Posted by SonySoldier-_- (878 posts) -

It depends if the tech inside is worth the price tag. If its packing a GTX 690 you know I"ll be buying one!!!!!!!

#43 Posted by psymon100 (6835 posts) -

It depends if the tech inside is worth the price tag. If its packing a GTX 690 you know I"ll be buying one!!!!!!!

SonySoldier-_-

Dangling modifiers are my favourite.