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#1 lightleggy
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Like we all know, PC was pretty much casted aside in last year's awards...I mean GS handed best graphics awards to GoW 3 when metro 2033 clearly looks 1000000 times better than GoW3. a bunch of PC exclusives getting excluded from categories (stalker and amnesia completly missing in the awards) it was pretty much excluded from every place where pc deserved to win.

Now I really hope GS makes a fair contest this year...I dont really care if the consoles cant catch up with the PC graphical quality, I dont want to have any game winning awards as "consolation"

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#2 KevinButlerVP
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I think GOW3 deserved it much more imo but I agree PC should get treated fairly

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#3 NoodleFighter
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It bothers me like hell when good pc games get overshadowed by console games just because of the platform.

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#4 Ironbash
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I think GOW3 deserved it much more imo but I agree PC should get treated fairly

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And can you please explain why that is? Technically metro 2033 blows god of war 3 out of the water

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#5 ChubbyGuy40
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I think GOW3 deserved it much more imo but I agree PC should get treated fairly

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GoW3 was certainly a good contender, but Metro 2033 PC by far had the better visuals. I feel like GS is going to shaft PC again and give UC3 best visuals this year instead of BF3 PC (Not console, PC.)

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#6 Ly_the_Fairy
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Doesn't Gamespot only have one person reviewing PC games? It'll never happen.

The site is too console-focused.

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Stalker and Amnesia are good PC exclusives, but doesn't mean they should be picked as GOTY candidates when other games are also as good or better. It should be no surprise, take into account the review scores and 8.5's are not high enough for GOTY rarely do they get nominated; from what we have seen they usually just pick the highest rated. I agree about the graphics though, Warhead lost to MGS4 lol! GOW3 beat Metro lol! let's not rob BF3 on PC.
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I think GOW3 deserved it much more imo but I agree PC should get treated fairly

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GoW3 did not deserve best graphics over Metro 2033 PC. :|

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

I think GOW3 deserved it much more imo but I agree PC should get treated fairly

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GoW3 did not deserve best graphics over Metro 2033 PC. :|

its all personal preference, maybe it does or maybe it doesn't, who cares
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#10 TheMoreYouOwn
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GOW3 definitely deserved it.
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#11 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

I think GOW3 deserved it much more imo but I agree PC should get treated fairly

Chris_Williams

GoW3 did not deserve best graphics over Metro 2033 PC. :|

its all personal preference, maybe it does or maybe it doesn't, who cares

It was technical graphics, which aren't preference. Metro's lighting is jaw-dropping,so were all its other features,yet it wasn't even freakin nominated! They gave it to MGS4 over Crysis Warhead, to UC2 over Cryostasis, and then GoW3 over Metro 2033 and it wasn't even at least nominated.

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#12 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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I think GOW3 deserved it much more imo but I agree PC should get treated fairly

KevinButlerVP

Metro 2033 wasn't even nominated in the GS technical graphics category. A GS employee's reasoning for this was that it was too inconsistent graphicaly. Yet they had Mass Effet 2 nominated. Mass Effect 2. A game whose graphics quality ranges from slightly above average to just plain sad.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Stalker and Amnesia are good PC exclusives, but doesn't mean they should be picked as GOTY candidates when other games are also as good or better. It should be no surprise, take into account the review scores and 8.5's are not high enough for GOTY rarely do they get nominated; from what we have seen they usually just pick the highest rated. I agree about the graphics though, Warhead lost to MGS4 lol! GOW3 beat Metro lol! let's not rob BF3 on PC.

never said GOTY, stalker and amnesia should have definitly being nominated for best atmosphere (And one of the two should have won) and none of the 2 got nominated.
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What is comig out for PC that is note worthy?

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#15 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]GoW3 did not deserve best graphics over Metro 2033 PC. :|

ChubbyGuy40

its all personal preference, maybe it does or maybe it doesn't, who cares

It was technical graphics, which aren't preference. Metro's lighting is jaw-dropping,so were all its other features,yet it wasn't even freakin nominated! They gave it to MGS4 over Crysis Warhead, to UC2 over Cryostasis, and then GoW3 over Metro 2033 and it wasn't even at least nominated.

you know GS gave the busted technical graphics to cryostasis, and I agree, game is not impressive at all
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Stalker and Amnesia are good PC exclusives, but doesn't mean they should be picked as GOTY candidates when other games are also as good or better. It should be no surprise, take into account the review scores and 8.5's are not high enough for GOTY rarely do they get nominated; from what we have seen they usually just pick the highest rated. I agree about the graphics though, Warhead lost to MGS4 lol! GOW3 beat Metro lol! let's not rob BF3 on PC.lightleggy
never said GOTY, stalker and amnesia should have definitly being nominated for best atmosphere (And one of the two should have won) and none of the 2 got nominated.

Nope. Boring brown dirt and dust, a lot of brown dirt and dust, is apparently a lot more interesting than a fantasy nuclear-fallout atmosphere or a game tha depends entirely on it's atmosphere for horror.

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#17 lightleggy
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What is comig out for PC that is note worthy?

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the witcher 2...contendant for best graphics, best rpg and game of the year.
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#18 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Stalker and Amnesia are good PC exclusives, but doesn't mean they should be picked as GOTY candidates when other games are also as good or better. It should be no surprise, take into account the review scores and 8.5's are not high enough for GOTY rarely do they get nominated; from what we have seen they usually just pick the highest rated. I agree about the graphics though, Warhead lost to MGS4 lol! GOW3 beat Metro lol! let's not rob BF3 on PC.ChubbyGuy40

never said GOTY, stalker and amnesia should have definitly being nominated for best atmosphere (And one of the two should have won) and none of the 2 got nominated.

Nope. Boring brown dirt and dust, a lot of brown dirt and dust, is apparently a lot more interesting than a fantasy nuclear-fallout atmosphere or a game tha depends entirely on it's atmosphere for horror.

I forgot...which game won best atmosphere last year? :P
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First Metro 2033 graphics have only good enviroment.The graphics are not only enviroment Metro 2033 characters detailts sucks and animations was awful.The technical graphics combine animations,character details , enviroment details ,cutscene details and more.

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#20 ChubbyGuy40
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you know GS gave the busted technical graphics to cryostasis, and I agree, game is not impressive at alllightleggy

Was I the only one who plays with PhysX (Even though it completely cripples my system.)? The only thing bad about them was that single frost-flake they liked to paste everywhere for no reason.

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#21 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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What is comig out for PC that is note worthy?

EvanTheGamer

Shogun 2, Witcher 2 both got AAA scores. Battlefield 3 is coming out with an obviously superior version on PC. BF3, Crysis 2 DX11, Witcher 2, SHogun 2 are all graphical powerhouses. Red Orchestra 2 looks to be very promising as well.

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#22 ChubbyGuy40
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I forgot...which game won best atmosphere last year? :Plightleggy

The same game I just described, RDR.

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#23 ABCarmine
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They'll probably give it to UC3. Wouldn't be surprised Metro 2033>GOW3 graphics Any day........
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#24 Led_poison
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Meh, SC2 won best Competitive last year, that made me happy. Over BC2, Black Ops, Halo Reach and that one DL game.
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#25 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Don't pay much mind to the yearly awards I'd say, especially the graphics award. Gamespot hasn't been able to get that one right in about four years.
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#26 Riverwolf007
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yeah i think its strange too.

pc gets snubbed everywhere else on the site but they have these weird rules in sw to make sure pc guys feel included.

i have always compared bragging about pc in sw to showing up at a bicycle site and talking about how great your 120hp motorcycle is.

i want those guys to feel included too and share in the stupidity but pc just crushes consoles so much that sometimes it seems a bit arbitrary to try and either dumb down pc enough or venerate console stuff so that the two can come close enough for it to look like an actual competition.

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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

I think GOW3 deserved it much more imo but I agree PC should get treated fairly

Chris_Williams

GoW3 did not deserve best graphics over Metro 2033 PC. :|

its all personal preference, maybe it does or maybe it doesn't, who cares

Artistic design might be personal preference... but how is technical graphical superiority not objective?

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I think its a safe bet for the PC this year, there is a lot of good looking games on it coming out. The witcher 2 already looks fantastic, and so does Crysis 2 with DX11. And there is still BF3 coming out later this year. Gears 3 and UC3 will probably be the best the consoles have to offer this year. Well for graphics awards anyways.

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I think its a safe bet for the PC this year, there is a lot of good looking games on it coming out. The witcher 2 already looks fantastic, and so does Crysis 2 with DX11. And there is still BF3 coming out later this year. Gears 3 and UC3 will probably be the best the consoles have to offer this year. Well for graphics awards anyways.

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Never is ever a safe bet with more console leaning websites; I thought it was a clear obvious safe bet that God of War 3 (or any console game for that matter) isn't even close to touching Metro 2033; but that assumption was proven wrong--badly wrong when it wasn't even nominated. That's just pathetic.
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#30 lightleggy
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First Metro 2033 graphics have only good enviroment.The graphics are not only enviroment Metro 2033 characters detailts sucks and animations was awful.The technical graphics combine animations,character details , enviroment details ,cutscene details and more.

NIkoscho
what? characters models are great, animations are great too, postprocessing is awesome, physics are awesome, textures are awesome, the game's graphics are awesome and you seem to know nothing about what you are saying
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#31 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]GoW3 did not deserve best graphics over Metro 2033 PC. :|

Kinthalis

its all personal preference, maybe it does or maybe it doesn't, who cares

Artistic design might be personal preference... but how is technical graphical superiority not objective?

because of a technical aspect. its like saying "I personally believe a honda is faster than a mcclaren" you may believe it, but its nowhere near to be true.
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what? characters models are great, animations are great too, postprocessing is awesome, physics are awesome, textures are awesome, the game's graphics are awesome and you seem to know nothing about what you are sayinglightleggy

Dat lighting...mmmm. It's among the most impressive I've ever seen.

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Gow3 probably won "technically".
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Lets give GS another chance guys, I mean it's not like they gave the Sim 3 Strategy game of the year......................oh wait.

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#35 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]GoW3 did not deserve best graphics over Metro 2033 PC. :|

Kinthalis

its all personal preference, maybe it does or maybe it doesn't, who cares

Artistic design might be personal preference... but how is technical graphical superiority not objective?

its graphics award not techincal award, anyway i think anyone who takes these award things seriously needs to turn off the machine and go outside for a hour or something. it ain't that big of a deal.
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It was technical graphics, which aren't preference. Metro's lighting is jaw-dropping,so were all its other features,yet it wasn't even freakin nominated! They gave it to MGS4 over Crysis Warhead, to UC2 over Cryostasis, and then GoW3 over Metro 2033 and it wasn't even at least nominated.

ChubbyGuy40

Cryostasis was horribly optimized. It shouldn't have won over UC2. Metro 2033 had optimization issues as well.

It's not always about being the best looking game.

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What is comig out for PC that is note worthy?

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Shogun 2, Witcher 2 both got AAA scores. Battlefield 3 is coming out with an obviously superior version on PC. BF3, Crysis 2 DX11, Witcher 2, SHogun 2 are all graphical powerhouses. Red Orchestra 2 looks to be very promising as well.

Maybe if PC Gaming wasn't about the graphics those games would get mentioned as GOTY contenders...

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#38 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

What is comig out for PC that is note worthy?

EvanTheGamer

Shogun 2, Witcher 2 both got AAA scores. Battlefield 3 is coming out with an obviously superior version on PC. BF3, Crysis 2 DX11, Witcher 2, SHogun 2 are all graphical powerhouses. Red Orchestra 2 looks to be very promising as well.

Maybe if PC Gaming wasn't about the graphics those games would get mentioned as GOTY contenders...

Im not sure if I get your point.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

What is comig out for PC that is note worthy?

EvanTheGamer

Shogun 2, Witcher 2 both got AAA scores. Battlefield 3 is coming out with an obviously superior version on PC. BF3, Crysis 2 DX11, Witcher 2, SHogun 2 are all graphical powerhouses. Red Orchestra 2 looks to be very promising as well.

Maybe if PC Gaming wasn't about the graphics those games would get mentioned as GOTY contenders...

What does graphics have to do with these games? Have you played these games? They both have incredible graphics, yet they both scored at least a 9 at most sites.
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I think, for graphics, they should separate the platforms, say ps3*/360*/pc/wii kings for each separately, *maybe 360 and ps3 can be together 'cause of their being so close in terms of power.
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#41 ChubbyGuy40
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Cryostasis was horribly optimized. It shouldn't have won over UC2. Metro 2033 had optimization issues as well.

It's not always about being the best looking game.

drinkerofjuice

But it's labeled technical graphics. Pretty sure it doesn't rate awardsbased off performance. The game's rating is based off that. Metro 2033 only had optimization issues with DX11 and Advanced DoF, as well as PhysX doing almost nothing.

Technical graphics, which Metro stomped all over the competition in.

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#42 Doolz2024
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]

I think GOW3 deserved it much more imo but I agree PC should get treated fairly

Chris_Williams

GoW3 did not deserve best graphics over Metro 2033 PC. :|

its all personal preference, maybe it does or maybe it doesn't, who cares

GameSpot should care. If they're gonna hand out awards like this, they need to at least get it right.
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PC doesnt deserve to win graphics categories because not everyone can play at those high settings and what was done on consoles is done with limited hardware which is far more impressive than better graphics. Cant remember what site goes off of those rules. May be IGN, may be GS.
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#44 ducati101
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PC has higher standars, nuff said. Gamespot has said this, Kevin V has said this :)
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PC doesnt deserve to win graphics categories because not everyone can play at those high settings and what was done on consoles is done with limited hardware which is far more impressive than better graphics. Cant remember what site goes off of those rules. May be IGN, may be GS. Iantheone

So why did Crysis win in 2007 when most couldn't play it at high settings?

And no it's not. It's really not that impressive. The art is great, and thats why they look current and thats how Nintendo makes SMG stand up with HD-twin's visuals.

And that sounds like GameTrailers :P

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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Shogun 2, Witcher 2 both got AAA scores. Battlefield 3 is coming out with an obviously superior version on PC. BF3, Crysis 2 DX11, Witcher 2, SHogun 2 are all graphical powerhouses. Red Orchestra 2 looks to be very promising as well.

lightleggy

Maybe if PC Gaming wasn't about the graphics those games would get mentioned as GOTY contenders...

Im not sure if I get your point.

Like Metro 2033 PC, hi rez but riddled with techinical issues.

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#47 EvanTheGamer
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PC has higher standars, nuff said. Gamespot has said this, Kevin V has said this :)ducati101

Just the usual excuse to make mad pc gamers happy..

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I enjoyed Metro 2033 graphically wise. It looked amazing, some of the best realistic type graphics I've seen. From a "holy sh*t" standpoint, GOW3 stood out more to me.

That being said, maybe PC could be included more, but I don't think it was ever completely omitted. Honestly, there's just alot of good looking games out there and quality games.

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#49 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"]GoW3 did not deserve best graphics over Metro 2033 PC. :|

Doolz2024

its all personal preference, maybe it does or maybe it doesn't, who cares

GameSpot should care. If they're gonna hand out awards like this, they need to at least get it right.

so because you don't agree with them their wrong?... yeah like i said, who cares

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#50 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Maybe if PC Gaming wasn't about the graphics those games would get mentioned as GOTY contenders...

EvanTheGamer

Im not sure if I get your point.

Like Metro 2033 PC, hi rez but riddled with techinical issues.

But still completely playable and enjoyable.

If console gaming wasn't all about big hollywood moments, scripted sequences, and talking about how you did some dude's mom over VOIP, then maybe it'd actually been seen as serious competitive gaming platforms. I can do this too.